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Download Limit vs. Netflix Streaming Services, Torrents, etc by theogre
Started on: 03-28-2011 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by hookdonspeed:

i have comcast business @ home... i go over the limit every month, nothing happens :P

last month i pulled over 2tb's of data in, 600gigs out, still was getting full speed, never any letters or notices since i upgraded, and was only like $5/mo difference.


I didnt think business had a limit?
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I did like 90gigs yesterday.

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Report this Post07-28-2011 03:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ryan.hessSend a Private Message to ryan.hessDirect Link to This Post
Why do they have to put a cap on it? Why not charge 10 cents per gigabyte / month? Like a water meter?
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They don't have to at all... They are just greedy
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don't throttle yourself. Let them keep cancelling contracts. Great business strategy. Everyone likes instant media, they will probably have to move to tiered pricing like the mobile phones.
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Originally posted by Scottzilla79:

don't throttle yourself. Let them keep cancelling contracts. Great business strategy. Everyone likes instant media, they will probably have to move to tiered pricing like the mobile phones.


ya, screw the consumer as much as possible.
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ya, screw the consumer as much as possible.


Yeah, but that's market forces and capitalism. The vast majority of people are dumb and don't care, and slow phasing in of caps and limits will largely go unnoticed and the people that do care and do notice will be pissed and and not be able to do a damn thing about it.
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Yeah, but that's market forces and capitalism. The vast majority of people are dumb and don't care, and slow phasing in of caps and limits will largely go unnoticed and the people that do care and do notice will be pissed and and not be able to do a damn thing about it.


Myself, there is a point where i will just unplug.

edit: not sure i agree with 'screw the customer' being part of capitalism. sure, capitalism = make money. but not screw people.. at least in my world.. you can make a buck and do it the right way.

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I was just thinking (hey I'm a little slow).

What about people that play PlayStation, and XBox online? I wonder what the average is a month for that?

WoW on PC (do people still play that?) took some bandwith IIRC, heck if you have to update your computer very often it would kill your limit.

An ISP putting a cap on services impacts more than just the streaming services. There is an untold list of companies that would lose customers, or potential customers because of download limits. I'd imagine my TED talks obsession would have to go by the wayside.

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The bandwidth used when playing games on the PS3 varies depending on the game, How many poeple you play with and if your using mic chat or not. It seems the average online multiplayer game uses approx 40 MB’s an hour and with lots of talking that can double to 80 MB’s per hour. However if you are hosting ontop of that your bandwidth could jump to a max of 150 MB’s per hour.

So for instance lets say your playing a game like MAG
Lots of people, lots of chat,
approx average of 90 MB’s per hour

•8 Hours = 720MB’s
•7 Days 8 hours a day = 5.04 GB’s
•4 Weeks 8 hours a day = 20.160 GB’s
My estimations, If! you play 8 hours a day for a month, that’s just over 20 GB’s of bandwidth. maybe a little less maybe a little more but this is to give you an idea of how much you’re using. My advice is get a broadband connection without a limit so you have nothing to worry about unless your well within the limit but you have to remember if your downloading files on your computer or have more than one console running it coule be more.


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Originally posted by twofatguys:

I was just thinking (hey I'm a little slow).

What about people that play PlayStation, and XBox online? I wonder what the average is a month for that?

WoW on PC (do people still play that?) took some bandwith IIRC, heck if you have to update your computer very often it would kill your limit.

An ISP putting a cap on services impacts more than just the streaming services. There is an untold list of companies that would lose customers, or potential customers because of download limits. I'd imagine my TED talks obsession would have to go by the wayside.

Brad


dont forget about email spam, or all the flash ads we get bombarded with while surfing that we never even asked for
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Originally posted by User00013170:

Another thing a person can do with the router, instead of just monitoring, is set it up to throttle so you cant go over.. that way you dont end up using it all in 3 weeks and sit in the dark for a week..


If any router does that... Most consumer routers doesn't throttle. DDwrt won't throttle. Only newest model of consumer router can do Traffic Meter feature to keep under ISP's Cap.

 
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Originally posted by ryan.hess:

Why do they have to put a cap on it? Why not charge 10 cents per gigabyte / month? Like a water meter?


Research Canada's Gb over cap = $... Go over cap = $ for ISP who give $ to Canada's version of ATT before break up... Very low cap and easier to go over with Netflix Itune and others streaming.

And try VW etc mobile data cap... Very low, 1-5 Gb, cap and charge more $ if you go over. Example see https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...HTML/083879.html#p36 on first page. Read any plan at Verizon Wireless...

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Originally posted by theogre:


If any router does that... Most consumer routers doesn't throttle. DDwrt won't throttle. Only newest model of consumer router can do Traffic Meter feature to keep under ISP's Cap.


DD-WRT will throttle. And it seems to do a nice job of it.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/...p/Quality_of_Service

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dont forget about email spam, or all the flash ads we get bombarded with while surfing that we never even asked for


Heh, I am on a decent connection at home, and there are times I open E-Mail and have to wait while it loads hundreds of large messages.

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Originally posted by twofatguys:

DD-WRT will throttle. And it seems to do a nice job of it.


Ah, it bury is QoS... Maybe some OE firmware has also bury in QoS...
But QoS is far too much for most consumer users to deal with that... QoS give me a headache.
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