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I am not doubting you at all. But, not sure what it is you think you are supposed feel? racing heart, shaky hands, ADD - these symptoms are mighty subjective, and depending on your "normal" state, may not be fully noticable. also, much has to do with your age & physical condition. but, to think you are immune is a mistake.


I know I'm not immune. I just don't feel any effects. I'm 19 in average shape, maybe a little above average. Normal state is calm and mellow. Blood pressure and heart rate are far below normal but still in the safe range. Lol

The effects I expect would be feeling hyper, inability to sleep or sleep well, accelerated heart rate, more energy, etc
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I drank one Jolt back in the day and decided I would be better off just sticking my head in a vat of hot coffee and inhaling the liquid. I can only imagine how the products have progressed over the years. I would probably get the caffeine jitters just opening the can.
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Originally posted by faaaaq:
I know I'm not immune. I just don't feel any effects. I'm 19 in average shape, maybe a little above average. Normal state is calm and mellow. Blood pressure and heart rate are far below normal but still in the safe range. Lol

The effects I expect would be feeling hyper, inability to sleep or sleep well, accelerated heart rate, more energy, etc


ah - you are still within the range of puberty. your body has more than enough other junk going on to notice something as trivial as caffiene. check again in another 4-5 years, after the hormones have leveled off. not trying make 'youngin' jokes.
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Red Bull & Jager = Jager Bombs. Tasty!


Hah, indeed...but I was actually referring to Monster and Jager. Try it.
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ah - you are still within the range of puberty. your body has more than enough other junk going on to notice something as trivial as caffiene. check again in another 4-5 years, after the hormones have leveled off. not trying make 'youngin' jokes.


May be so, but most other people I know tweek out after drinking a monster or two. My best friend isn't allowed monster at my house for that very reason lol
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When I have an energy drink, I always go for the sugar free ones... I drink my coffee black, so the taste isn't an issue.

The nice thing about the sugar-free RedBull/monster/etc is the lack of crash - I can down a 8.5oz can in the morning and I don't crash at all; with the normal stuff, the sugar is what kills you.
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Originally posted by skuzzbomer:

When I have an energy drink, I always go for the sugar free ones... I drink my coffee black, so the taste isn't an issue.

The nice thing about the sugar-free RedBull/monster/etc is the lack of crash - I can down a 8.5oz can in the morning and I don't crash at all; with the normal stuff, the sugar is what kills you.


How's sugar free monster taste? Zero calorie jolt/venom is nasty, I know that...
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I know I'm not immune. I just don't feel any effects. I'm 19 in average shape, maybe a little above average. Normal state is calm and mellow. Blood pressure and heart rate are far below normal but still in the safe range. Lol

The effects I expect would be feeling hyper, inability to sleep or sleep well, accelerated heart rate, more energy, etc


Not feeling any effects usually means you have become accustomed to regular use. I wonder why you would even be drinking it if you don't get the effects that everyone drinks it for?
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Not feeling any effects usually means you have become accustomed to regular use. I wonder why you would even be drinking it if you don't get the effects that everyone drinks it for?


the taste. monster is my favorite drink, second would be Venom
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What about people like me, who don't "feel" the effects? Do our bodies process caffeine/sugar differently or something? I know in the long term caffeine is bad, but I don't feel theeffects of it, so will I still reel the bad side effects down the road?
And the point of andrenalizing yourself, by that logic, people who use epi-pens will also suffer negatively down the road. Is that true? Not being a smartass, these are all sincere questions


Use of an epi pen is usually to offset a life threatening circumstance. I don't really think it is comparable, maybe if someone shot up an epi pen everyday for fun...? I don't know alot about epi pens, but I know someone who keeps one to inject themself to stay alive so they have time to get to a hospital if stung by a bee, (because they are allergic).

One thing I know is bad for you, is if you drink energy drinks and alcohol together.
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the taste. monster is my favorite drink, second would be Venom


How often, how many do you consume?
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How often, how many do you consume?


if im lucky 2 a week. but i have maybe 20 in a year
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Use of an epi pen is usually to offset a life threatening circumstance. I don't really think it is comparable, maybe if someone shot up an epi pen everyday for fun...? I don't know alot about epi pens, but I know someone who keeps one to inject themself to stay alive so they have time to get to a hospital if stung by a bee, (because they are allergic).

One thing I know is bad for you, is if you drink energy drinks and alcohol together.


i know what an epi pen is, but i imagine using one often should have bad effects if caffeine does. but, just to clarify, i dont KNOW, i was just making a connection that i thought would also be therefor true
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if im lucky 2 a week. but i have maybe 20 in a year


I don't think you have much to worry about.
Out of curiosity, what happens when a doctor tries to put you under for something like surgery?
I know a girl who didn't react normally to that, and cold medicine that makes most people drowsy made her hyper..
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http://stress.about.com/od/...ealth/a/caffeine.htm
Caffeine, Stress and Your Health: Is Caffeine Your Friend or Your Foe?

Caffeine is a drug, popularly consumed in coffee, tea, soft drinks and, in smaller doses, chocolate. While we seem to have a love affair with these products, there’s been quite a bit of confusion and even controversy surrounding caffeine lately. Is it good or bad for us? Here’s a brief tutorial on caffeine, and some surprising answers to these questions.

Effects on the Body:

* Hormones- You can feel the effects of caffeine in your system within a few minutes of ingesting it, and it stays on your system for many hours—it has a half-life of four to six hours in your body. While in your body, caffeine affects the following hormones:
* Adenosine- Can inhibit absorption of adenosine, which calms the body, which can make you feel alert in the short run, but can cause sleep problems later. (More on this below.)
* Adrenaline- Caffeine injects adrenaline into your system, giving you a temporary boost, but possibly making you fatigued and depressed later. If you take more caffeine to counteract these effects, you end up spending the day in an agitated state, and might find yourself jumpy and edgy by night.
* Cortisol- Can increase the body’s levels of cortisol, the “stress hormone”, which can lead to other health consequences ranging from weight gain and moodiness to heart disease and diabetes.
* Dopamine- Caffeine increases dopamine levels in your system, acting in a way similar to amphetamines, which can make you feel good after taking it, but after it wears off you can feel ‘low’. It can also lead to a physical dependence because of dopamine manipulation.

These changes caffeine makes in your physiology can have both positive and negative consequences:

* Sleep Caffeine can affect your sleep by keeping you awake longer, thereby shortening the amount of sleep you get, and giving you less time in the restorative stages of sleep, which takes a toll on your level of alertness the next day and overall health.

Interestingly, though, caffeine doesn’t affect the stages of sleep the way other stimulants do, so it’s a better choice than speed or other ‘uppers’ to use if you need to stay awake.
* Weight Many experts believe that increased levels of cortisol lead to stronger cravings for fat and carbohydrates, and cause the body to store fat in the abdomen. (Abdominal fat carries with it greater health risks than other types of fat.) Also, if increased cortisol levels lead to stronger cravings for caffeine-laden foods, the body goes into a cycle that leads only to worse health.

The good news, though, is that caffeine can speed up metabolism. Also, it can help the body break down fat about 30% more efficiently if consumed prior to exercise. (You must be exercising to get this benefit, though.) Additionally, caffeine can keep blood sugar levels elevated, leaving you feeling less hungry.
* Exercise If caffeine elevates levels of cortisol and other hormones for a temporary boost, after caffeine wears off, the body can feel fatigued and feelings of mild to moderate depression can set in. This can make physical activity more difficult.

On the positive side, caffeine has been found to enhance physical performance and endurance if it isn’t overused. This, combined with its effect of fat burning during exercise, can actually enhance workouts and enable you to get in better shape if you take it at the right time.

Caffeine and Stress

Because caffeine and stress can both elevate cortisol levels, high amounts of caffeine (or stress) can lead to the negative health effects associated with prolonged elevated levels of cortisol (which you can read about here). If you ingest high levels of caffeine, you may feel your mood soar and plummet, leaving you craving more caffeine to make it soar again, causing you to lose sleep, suffer health consequences and, of course, feel more stress. However, small to moderate amounts of caffeine can lift your mood and give you a boost.

The Verdict on Caffeine

With potential negative and positive health consequences, caffeine can be your friend, but in controlled doses. Here’s what you should remember about caffeine:


* Don’t Take Too Much Because of the health risks (above) associated with higher levels of caffeine, as well as the risk of physical dependence that can come with four cups of coffee or more each day, it’s wise to limit your caffeine intake. (Withdrawal symptoms can include cravings, headache, fatigue and muscle pain.)
* No Caffeine After 2pm Because sleep is important to proper physical functioning, and caffeine can stay in your system for 8 hours or longer, you should cut off or limit your caffeine intake to the first part of the day to ensure that your sleep isn’t disrupted.
* Enjoy Caffeine With Physical Activity Caffeine is best ingested before exercise—that way your performance is enhanced and the stress-management benefits of exercise can keep you healthy and feeling less stressed throughout the day.
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One thing this doesn't mention is caffiene dehydrates you. Something to think about when experts also recommend 8 glasses of water per day.

*edit to add, energy drinks don't just have caffiene in them.

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I don't think you have much to worry about.
Out of curiosity, what happens when a doctor tries to put you under for something like surgery?
I know a girl who didn't react normally to that, and cold medicine that makes most people drowsy made her hyper..


cold meds will drop me like a rock. even Zyrtec with its SLIGHT drowsiness knocked me out cold. not sure about the doctors tho, only time i was ever put under was when i was like 9 and had two teeth pulled

and pretty much on topic, all those prescriptions that people use recreationally, like antidepressant and pain med, well neither have any effect on either of my parents. the doctors sent my mom home with liquid morphine because the regular stuff didnt cut it. maybe something genetic in my family dealing with our bodies processing chemicals and whatnot?

edit. i forgot, when i was in middle school, being caffeine free i was kinda energetic, but shortly after consuming a mountain dew or jolt or whatnot, id get quite tired

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I drink this one, hands down THE best.

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shoulda guessed someone would mention that lol


arent most of the other things in common energy drinks just crap? like guarana? i beleieve i was reading about that not long ago, and it said there are no negative or positive) known effects of ingesting it. it mighta been a different chemical/ntrient/whatever, but it was something in energy drinks
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i usually drink 1 cup of black coffee 30min prior to PT. Caffeine helps the lungs breath in more air. more oxygen means more energy for aerobic activities. The boost of energy means more time to efficiently workout in your aerobic event, such as running. Makes sense right?

Caffeine generally overworks the heart and gives you higher blood pressure. Caffeine does help speed the metabolism, but it is modest at best imho. I have a slow metabolism and that is what i base it off of.

caffeine effects your bones too... right? i heard it does. i think i feel the effects from it sometimes. i might be crazy though.

Lets talk about Taurine! some1 educate me on that. my friend told me it actually helps with energy. GO

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http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/taurine/AN01856

"Caffeine and taurine are not similar substances. Caffeine is a stimulant, and taurine is an amino acid. Taurine supports neurological development and helps regulate the level of water and mineral salts in the blood. Taurine is also thought to have antioxidant properties.

Taurine is found naturally in meat, fish and breast milk, and it's commonly available as a dietary supplement. Some studies suggest that taurine supplementation may improve athletic performance, which may explain why taurine is used in many energy drinks. Other studies suggest that taurine and caffeine act together to improve athletic and perhaps even mental performance, although this finding remains controversial.

Up to 3,000 milligrams of supplemental taurine a day is considered safe. Any excess taurine is simply excreted by the kidneys. Moderation is important, however. Little is known about the effects of heavy or long-term taurine use. It's also important to remember that other ingredients in energy drinks, such as high amounts of caffeine or sugar, can be harmful. For example, too much caffeine can increase your heart rate and blood pressure, interrupt your sleep, and cause nervousness and irritability.

To ensure peak performance, don't depend on energy drinks and supplements. Instead, focus on a healthy lifestyle. Eat healthy foods, include physical activity in your daily routine and get enough sleep. "
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Colbert just told me Starbucks in testing the waters for a 31 ounce "Trente" coffee
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ECA stack-- ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin, help with fat loss a lot. just imagine what that does to your heart though. in moderation yeah, go for it. 3 month cycle sounds good. i just cant imagine lol.

also, didnt know about that taurine helps with energy!!! maybe i should drop a tab in my black cup of joe! sweet!
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ECA stack-- ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin, help with fat loss a lot. just imagine what that does to your heart though. in moderation yeah, go for it. 3 month cycle sounds good. i just cant imagine lol.

also, didnt know about that taurine helps with energy!!! maybe i should drop a tab in my black cup of joe! sweet!


had to google ECA Stack. dang lol. ill bet there are worse tho :P
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Ever hear of adderall?
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