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Grampa decided to make a left turn in front of me and managed to make a mess by Back On Holiday
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80 year old man decided to turn left on a green right in front of me, locked up the brakes (G-DAMN ABS!!!) and hit him with my '07 Ford Fusion P/S front(he got hit D/S Rear.

Friend I know has a towing business, his dad came and picked it up.... The car looks totalled, windshield smashed from the hood, engine looks intact but the surrounding front frame is distroyed, cant open p/s front door, car starts and dies, i'll grab pics tomorrow - cop at the scene making the report says he failed to yield to me.

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One word...Insurance! You shouldn't have any problems getting another Fusion like the one you had, maybe even a brand new one. You did get the guy's info, right?
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Sorry to hear about this. And yes it sounds totaled. It doesn't take much to total newer cars. And maybe you will be able to buy a new Fusion. Ford should be damn near giving them away at this point, and the newer lights look pretty nice.

So how are you doing? I bet you will be sore in the morning. I would suggest going to the doctor if you haven't already.
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Fords used to have a fuel pump shut off switch that is activated during a collision. It needs to be reset, to make it work again, if it has it.

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Try buying the car back most body shops can work wonders.
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Originally posted by hklvette:

One word...Insurance! You shouldn't have any problems getting another Fusion like the one you had, maybe even a brand new one. You did get the guy's info, right?


Yes, the cop filled out a form with both insurance's information, My friend is a Ford salesman, just got done talking to him on the phone(among a bunch of other people) I bought the car from him 2.5 years ago.

 
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Fords used to have a fuel pump shut off switch that is activated during a collision. It needs to be reset, to make it work again, if it has it.



I forgot! Thats why it would only run for 2-3 seconds, thx!

 
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Sorry to hear about this. And yes it sounds totaled. It doesn't take much to total newer cars. And maybe you will be able to buy a new Fusion. Ford should be damn near giving them away at this point, and the newer lights look pretty nice.

So how are you doing? I bet you will be sore in the morning. I would suggest going to the doctor if you haven't already.


Getting really sore, I called the ER, was 4+ hours backed up already they were super busy so I'm going to wait until tommorrow and talk Pontiackid86 into driving me there unless my wife gets back from work early.

I was just starting to love that car, 34k on the odometer, Black 4 cyl
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Try buying the car back most body shops can work wonders.


Thx, depending on the circumstances I might just do that, hell of a project car!
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Pics!!!!!!!
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Death of a trooper tonight even though it was a ford. Who knows andrew this might be god giving you another chance to make up for that mistake hehehe just kidding dude. Now barb can push you to sell the 88.
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I'm going to wait until tommorrow and talk Pontiackid86 into driving me



That pains me. you know ill drive you there.

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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

Pics!!!!!!!


Car is at the tow place's secure yard right now, i'll get pics tomorrow.
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:

Death of a trooper tonight even though it was a ford. Who knows andrew this might be god giving you another chance to make up for that mistake hehehe just kidding dude. Now barb can push you to sell the 88.


Might just replace it with a firebird.... j/k
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Bummer.

Take photos of the site asap including skid marks, traffic light sequences, gouges and anything of interest including the woman in the bikini selling hot dogs on the sidewalk (if any). try to get some of the scenery in the photos so the length of skidmarks can be determined later if necessary. In other words, assuming it is a busy intersection, stand on the side of the road and take a photo where the skid mark starts, but make sure a light pole, bench or other landmark is visible in the photo so the length of the mark can be determined at a later time, if necessary, after they faded away.
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Originally posted by Back On Holiday:


Might just replace it with a firebird.... j/k

lol burn.
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Originally posted by SCCAFiero:

Bummer.

Take photos of the site asap including skid marks, traffic light sequences, gouges and anything of interest including the woman in the bikini selling hot dogs on the sidewalk (if any). try to get some of the scenery in the photos so the length of skidmarks can be determined later if necessary. In other words, assuming it is a busy intersection, stand on the side of the road and take a photo where the skid mark starts, but make sure a light pole, bench or other landmark is visible in the photo so the length of the mark can be determined at a later time, if necessary, after they faded away.


Wish I could remember if he had his lights on, turn signal etc.. it was getting dark and I always have my lights on day or night.
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Might just replace it with a firebird.... j/k


Ill trade it for the blue devil

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Depending on what is left of his car, light operation can be determined by looking at the lamps. If there is any question in your mind, tell your insurance company asap so they can arrange to have the other car properly inspected before it is fixed.
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Originally posted by SCCAFiero:

Bummer.

Take photos of the site asap including skid marks, traffic light sequences, gouges and anything of interest including the woman in the bikini selling hot dogs on the sidewalk (if any). try to get some of the scenery in the photos so the length of skidmarks can be determined later if necessary. In other words, assuming it is a busy intersection, stand on the side of the road and take a photo where the skid mark starts, but make sure a light pole, bench or other landmark is visible in the photo so the length of the mark can be determined at a later time, if necessary, after they faded away.



He is gona win this. in PA if you dont yield to another persons right of way is almost the equivalnt of committing a mortal sin plus the intersection he was at is a huge pain in the nads i see either andrew not at falt or a no fault accident if ins companys argue.
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Sorry to hear it.
 
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Any advice?

Yeah. That will buff right out, .
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lol burn.


I know a guy with one that is really clean, he was trying to sell it to me a few years ago.
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Originally posted by SCCAFiero:

Depending on what is left of his car, light operation can be determined by looking at the lamps. If there is any question in your mind, tell your insurance company asap so they can arrange to have the other car properly inspected before it is fixed.


He was hit in the rear/p/s tire area, actually hit right at his tire and it flew off wonder what his big hurry was, I know he had the lights on after the accident, probably realized he better.
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Yeah. That will buff right out, .


LoL!!

According to Jake Dragon I am pretty good at "buffing out" cars!!

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Originally posted by pontiackid86:
He is gona win this. in PA if you dont yield to another persons right of way is almost the equivalnt of committing a mortal sin plus the intersection he was at is a huge pain in the nads i see either andrew not at falt or a no fault accident if ins companys argue.


HUH ????????

If you are making a left, then it is YOUR responsibility to ensure you can do it safely and clear the intersection.......if ya screw it up, then its points off the licence, and your fault, and you (or your insurance) pays.

Guy going straight has the right of way
guy turning left waits.

pretty simple.

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LoL!!

According to Jake Dragon I am pretty good at "buffing out" cars!!


LOL just wait til you see the pics

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HUH ????????
If you are making a left, then it is YOUR responsibility to ensure you can do it safely and clear the intersection.......if ya screw it up, then its points off the licence, and your fault, and you (or your insurance) pays.

Guy going straight has the right of way
guy turning left waits.


Yes, PK is hard to understand. I was going Straight, grampa decided to turn left in front of me.
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Is PA a no-fault state? If not, the insurance companies will get together and decide what percentage of the accident was your fault. No kidding, even if you actually were totally blameless, your insurance company will agree that you were partially at fault to avoid a court date. Since you will probably be found to be at least 10% responsible, don’t plan on receiving a 100% recovery for your loss.

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Sounds like he was almost thru his turn when you so unceremoniuosly struck him in the right rear. How long were braking your skid marks?
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HUH ????????

If you are making a left, then it is YOUR responsibility to ensure you can do it safely and clear the intersection.......if ya screw it up, then its points off the licence, and your fault, and you (or your insurance) pays.

Guy going straight has the right of way
guy turning left waits.

pretty simple.



Yea andrew was going straight.

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I saw the car on my way home tonight..... it was pretty bad.
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Originally posted by maryjane:

Sounds like he was almost thru his turn when you so unceremoniuosly struck him in the right rear. How long were braking your skid marks?


Are you implying that Andrew hit him on purpose? And there would be very little for skid marks with ABS. The other car did not yield the right of way to the oncoming lane before they made their turn.
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Are you implying that Andrew hit him on purpose? And there would be very little for skid marks with ABS. The other car did not yield the right of way to the oncoming lane before they made their turn.


X2 The person going straight in this state always has the right of way to someone turning, The older gentelmen should have been out of andrews path before andrew got into the intersection or he should not have went at all. Just like the rule of thumb with a stop sign if the person driving down the road has to hit there breaks for the person leaving the stop sign the person pulled out when they shouldent have.


Not to mention the intersection this happend at is a very odd intersection. I avoid it whenever I can.

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Sounds like he was almost thru his turn when you so unceremoniuosly struck him in the right rear. How long were braking your skid marks?


I think he was trying to beat me out, or plainly couldnt see/judge when to go and right before I got to the intersection he cruised right around the center barrier w/o stopping/slowing

and Yes, he was ok at the scene and refused an ambulance (sorry to sound selfish in my earlier posts as I already knew this information)
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Guess your sleeping off your long night out right now since your not answering your phone?

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Are you implying that Andrew hit him on purpose?

Of course not--why would anyone hit someone else on purpose?
 
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And there would be very little for skid marks with ABS.
Ahh ABS--I keep forgetting about that new fangled stuff. I've never liked abs, tho it is supposedly better than standard brakes.

 
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The other car did not yield the right of way to the oncoming lane before they made their turn.

That's obvious--I'm not blind, and I can see the picture BOH posted.

Around here, the question I asked is one that any insurance adjuster, and most accident/traffic cops will ask.
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Bummer.

Take photos of the woman in the bikini selling hot dogs on the sidewalk .


Absolutely necessary

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Ouch Andrew, sucks to be you? Although, at least you outta get a new car out of the deal...should be ruled as his fault since he made the left in front of you and you hit him. My stepdad had this happen a few years back at an intersection much like this in his work truck. He got a nice new truck from the deal, and it was ruled no fault on his part.

So, uh...what are you doing with the front seats from the focus?
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So, uh...what are you doing with the front seats from the focus?

thought it was a fusion...
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thought it was a fusion...


yes, it is...

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