Republicans are held to a higher standard.. difficult to live up to at times ..I live my life with a sense of honor loyalty and integrity,,I fail sometimes ..The INTEGRITY can be a monster ..

A politician should know what has to be done ..He is the elected official and his elected post has nothing to do with cheating on his wife, but he should be finished..up to him if he resigns..
Gambling,bong celebrations, drinking, midget fetish ,and other sins OK ,, but a major trust issue when Mr. Stiffy can not be kept in the proper corral..Free range not allowed once you hit councilman or higher

Democrats can run **** sites,,even take a turn in the glory bung hole barrel on gay pride night,destroy the economy ,,no big deal,,Probably get re elected in an Aids celebration landslide .. Republicans represent LINCOLN & WASHINGTON,, they must have higher moral caliber than the democrat/socialist/marxist..

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DB or lanstan, same point of view?

quote Originally posted by 2.5: DB or lanstan, same point of view?

That's true more often than not.

..although I don't have a thing for midgets...

Are you a voter? A FAMILY VALUES voter?

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: You have been hosed AGAIN.

How so ?
The man pushes a families value platform. I did not vote for his wife or his mistress.

quote Originally posted by D B Cooper: That's true more often than not. ..although I don't have a thing for midgets...

quote Originally posted by Wolfhound: Yeah, and it caused some confusion at republican news "Fox" They thought he was a Democrate.

Hmmm...Democrate. Is that the pace at which one Democs, or is that the container from which they're shipped?

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Then it wasn't an affair, unless it started before (or because) of the wife telling him to take a hike.

Actually by his own admission the friendship turned into an affair last year sometime. Likely the wife did in fact tell him to take a hike because of the infidelity thing.

quote Originally posted by D B Cooper: Actually by his own admission the friendship turned into an affair last year sometime. Likely the wife did in fact tell him to take a hike because of the infidelity thing.

Then he got what's coming. He'll have to live with it.

Gee...I wonder what's worse? A politician/party who fails at living up to their own standards (Republican), or a politician/party who has NO standards? I'd go with the guys who are at least *trying*.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Then it wasn't an affair, unless it started before (or because) of the wife telling him to take a hike.

it has been widely reported this affair has been going on for many many years [18]
it ain't like he went out and found this chic in another country after the wife said split
in fact he was with the stray chic when he vote on clinton

nice try to spin but again you FAIL

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Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?

I wonder if he wrote her and said "Don't cry for me Argentina...."?

quote Originally posted by ray b: it has been widely reported this affair has been going on for many many years [18] it ain't like he went out and found this chic in another country after the wife said split in fact he was with the stray chic when he vote on clinton nice try to spin but again you FAIL

I wasn't spinning anything. I hadn't read the details of the affair. Maybe because I don't really give a crap.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: I wasn't spinning anything. I hadn't read the details of the affair. Maybe because I don't really give a crap.

Yeah, right.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Yeah, right.

Most people don't give a crap--about this or any other sordid thing that comes out of D.C.---well, maybe the media, if they aren't too busy kowtowing to the new administartion and worrying about Kate and what's his name.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Yeah, right.

You're trying WAY too hard. Give it up.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Then he got what's coming. He'll have to live with it. Gee...I wonder what's worse? A politician/party who fails at living up to their own standards (Republican), or a politician/party who has NO standards? I'd go with the guys who are at least *trying*.

I absolutely DESPISE this argument. Just because someone else has DIFFERENT values than yours, does NOT mean that they have NO VALUES!.. That's despicable. Think about it - how about if I said the same thing about you?!? I easily could. How would you defend against that? I would simply repeat the lie that you have no values. You lose.

In other words, don't go down that road. It leads nowhere.

quote Originally posted by ktthecarguy: I absolutely DESPISE this argument. Just because someone else has DIFFERENT values than yours, does NOT mean that they have NO VALUES!.. That's despicable. Think about it - how about if I said the same thing about you?!? I easily could. How would you defend against that? I would simply repeat the lie that you have no values. You lose. In other words, don't go down that road. It leads nowhere.

He'd probably respond by pointing out some examples of his values and point to some evidence to back them up.

I also find it noteworthy that your response was to point finger instead of taking the opportunity to illustrate at least a couple core values...

quote Originally posted by D B Cooper: He'd probably respond by pointing out some examples of his values and point to some evidence to back them up. I also find it noteworthy that your response was to point finger instead of taking the opportunity to illustrate at least a couple core values...

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maybe

quote Originally posted by D B Cooper: He'd probably respond by pointing out some examples of his values and point to some evidence to back them up. I also find it noteworthy that your response was to point finger instead of taking the opportunity to illustrate at least a couple core values...

Yup, good observation. He also said he "despises that argument." Musta hit close to home, huh?

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Yup, good observation. He also said he "despises that argument." Musta hit close to home, huh?

No you didn't. It is just a lame stupid argument that needs to die. On the same level as "I know you are but what am I" yes it's really that dumb. I think you are smarter than that, but it's time to prove it. If you are proud of the values that you hold dear, then good for you. But do not EVER assume that because someone else does not share your values, that they don't have any values at all. That's just plain old dumb. Come on.

quote Originally posted by ktthecarguy: ...and provide you with an excuse to ridicule my values? Thanks but no thanks. I am not taking the bait.

Isn't that what this whole thread is about--ridiculing the values of others?

People can respectfully differ on abortion, guns, death penalty, health care and etc.

The beef I have is with leftist, because they feel they have the right to loot what I earn and give it to themselves and others without my discretion.

Your leftist ideology advocates that you can steal from me. And that is when I angrily say, "Go Phuck Yourself!"

All of our elected representatives should be held to the same standards of behavior regardless of party affiliation. I will not defend, coddle, or feel sorry for any politician whose character flaws and bad judgment render him unfit for office.

quote Originally posted by ktthecarguy: ...and provide you with an excuse to ridicule my values? Thanks but no thanks. I am not taking the bait.

Then why bother to take part in a political discussion?

Honest debate and discussion is not ridicule, although you're obviously not always going to get honest debate. But if you provide nothing of substance, don't get upset when you get nothing worthwhile in return. Present your ideas, your beliefs, your opinions, and then explain why you think it would be good to enact policies that reflect those beliefs. Look to history or to other countries that have followed a similar path, and use those examples to bolster your position.

If you're unwilling to do that, then your participation in these threads is simply mud throwing. To use the topic of this thread, you're being a hypocrite.

Oops. It's late. Disregard this.

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quote Originally posted by GT86: Then why bother to take part in a political discussion? Honest debate and discussion is not ridicule, although you're obviously not always going to get honest debate. But if you provide nothing of substance, don't get upset when you get nothing worthwhile in return. Present your ideas, your beliefs, your opinions, and then explain why you think it would be good to enact policies that reflect those beliefs. Look to history or to other countries that have followed a similar path, and use those examples to bolster your position. If you're unwilling to do that, then your participation in these threads is simply mud throwing. To use the topic of this thread, you're being a hypocrite.

Your definition of hypocrite is, well, muddy is the best I can describe it. What we have going on here is not debate: it is a mudslinging contest, and I am not interested in that. So I refuse to list my values for others to spit on. As I said, thanks but no thanks.

As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.

quote Originally posted by ktthecarguy: Your definition of hypocrite is, well, muddy is the best I can describe it. What we have going on here is not debate: it is a mudslinging contest, and I am not interested in that. So I refuse to list my values for others to spit on. As I said, thanks but no thanks. As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.

If you're not going to discuss values and issues, then what exactly are you contributing? If you don't like being told you have no values (and I wouldn't like that), then why not refute the assertion?

As I said, don't complain about generalizations and lack of substance if you're not willing to add those things to a conversation.

quote Originally posted by GT86: If you're not going to discuss values and issues, then what exactly are you contributing? If you don't like being told you have no values (and I wouldn't like that), then why not refute the assertion? As I said, don't complain about generalizations and lack of substance if you're not willing to add those things to a conversation.

As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.

Got it now?

I won't suggest the Left doesn't have values, but I will say their values are not aligned with anything I can agree with. One of those things it seems is it's alright if our guy does it but your guy can't. I personally don't care what the party affilitation is, such behavior as has been demonstrated by the SC governor is shameless and should be dealt with. Yet, depending on party affiliation, one can expect the same characters to line up depending on the color of their vote. One side can do it, the other cant'. I find that despictable. Point in case, Rep. Jefferson of Lousiana. Not yet convicted, I'll admit but look at who lined up where. Rep. Jefferson's behavior is unacceptable by any standard unless one has no standard.

This governor should be gone, just as President Clinton should have been deposed but, somehow, with his party affiliation, President Clinton survived. Rep Jefferson is still around yet, the SC Governor is being condemned by both sides. Ironic isn't it.

Ron

quote Originally posted by blackrams: I won't suggest the Left doesn't have values, but I will say their values are not aligned with anything I can agree with. One of those things it seems is it's alright if our guy does it but your guy can't. I personally don't care what the party affilitation is, such behavior as has been demonstrated by the SC governor is shameless and should be dealt with. Yet, depending on party affiliation, one can expect the same characters to line up depending on the color of their vote. One side can do it, the other cant'. I find that despictable. Point in case, Rep. Jefferson of Lousiana. Not yet convicted, I'll admit but look at who lined up where. Rep. Jefferson's behavior is unacceptable by any standard unless one has no standard. This governor should be gone, just as President Clinton should have been deposed but, somehow, with his party affiliation, President Clinton survived. Rep Jefferson is still around yet, the SC Governor is being condemned by both sides. Ironic isn't it. Ron

Jefferson, is that the guy with the wad of cash in the freezer? Throw the bum out like yesterday's garbage, that's how I feel. Anyone feel differently?

quote Originally posted by ktthecarguy: As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me.As for my taking part in a political discussion, look at my first post. I said I wasn't interested in his personal life, but what he does "on company time" is my business. In fact, it's all of our business. And others agree with me. Got it now?

So you are willing to discuss values.

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quote Originally posted by GT86: So you are willing to discuss values.

Whoosh! Right over your head. You almost got a haircut with that one.

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quote Originally posted by ktthecarguy: Whoosh! Right over your head. You almost got a haircut with that one.

LOL, thanks for helping to prove my earlier point.

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quote Originally posted by GT86: LOL, thanks for helping to prove my earlier point.

You repugs really can convince yourself of anything, can't you?! Must be nice to live in a fantasy world of your own making. So what color is the sky in there?

You know I would actually bother reading this thread, but it was obviously neptune stirring the pot and being a troll, so I didn't

When you make threads that have the sole purpose of pissing people off you are no better then a 14 year old, I don't care what the subject is.

Most politicians are twisted, R OR D. I say burn em, dems for what they vote for, and any Repubs that are hypocrites.