quote Originally posted by Tytehead: hookedonspeed don't take this lying down. You have been treated egregiously and with no concern for your feelings. I think we should sue and sue now!! Calling you a whiteboy. How offensive!! Suggesting you walk down the street because you are too poor to afford a car. Unspeakable!! How have you overcome the shame, the extreme mental pain you must have felt to be refused service this way. You are a true hero to have not fallen on the ground in agoney and dispair when this happened to you!!!! Call me we can work something out....I work on contingencies...... I think it goes without saying I am being completely facetious........

Up to the very last line, I was just about to put that retainer check in the mail. Here I was just about to open the most progressive stylist salon east of the Mississippi and you just had to insert that last line. You and your posts are now under investigative research/review. Facetious, huh? I like them thar big words.

Ron

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This is silly. Any African-American knows that JCPenny or for that matter main stream America doesn't know a thing about performing any work on black peoples head. That's why most black only go-to places that specialized in the treating black hair care. Blacks will only have they're hair cut at malls if they're stupid or naive. As for hair products for blacks, JCPenny's nor main stream stores don't carry hair products. As for the womens' attorney, Gloria A? she's looking for attention and a quick pay check.

quote Originally posted by madcurl: This is silly. Any African-American knows that JCPenny or for that matter main stream America doesn't know a thing about performing any work on black peoples head. That's why most black only go-to places that specialized in the treating black hair care. Blacks will only have they're hair cut at malls if they're stupid or naive. As for hair products for blacks, JCPenny's nor main stream stores don't carry hair products. As for the womens' attorney, Gloria A? she's looking for attention and a quick pay check.

AH HAA!!! So now we have a potential set up or sting in the mix. This place is better than the National Inquirer. Inquiring minds want to know.

Ron

quote Originally posted by ditch: This whole thing may be blown out of proportion. Here's another possible angle: my uncle is a saloon owner, and I remember him saying that back in the days of his classes, there were separate courses for working with African Americans hair. He said that the properties of that hair were significantly different, so additional training was required. Maybe that is why this person said they wouldn't work on it, because they knew it was different and didn't want to make a mistake due to inexperience.

Why did your uncle need to know about peoples hair in order to serve drinks? BTW, did he have sawdust on the floor and cool swingy doors?

quote Originally posted by blackrams: AH HAA!!! So now we have a potential set up or sting in the mix. This place is better than the National Inquirer. Inquiring minds want to know. Ron

That's exactly what it is. A "set-up" for a potential quick and easy lawsuit to which the black defendent will loose. Why?

1. JCPenney's doesn't carry black hair procducts. Therefore no products means...
2. No hair stylist (on site) who specialize in black hair care. Granted, the hair stylist may have practiced on models during internship, but heck how many years ago was that?
3. There's no "racial over-tones" here. JCPenney, Macy's, Weinstocks, Fantastic Sams or any major chain are simply naive to the potential revenue.
4. Black venders "rake-in" the money.
5. All black parents know where to take their childen for hair cuts or for detailed styling. Granted, their maybe a white person there, but that person has plenty of experience in dealing with cutting or styling black hair, but the black person still is required to ask him/her if they know their stuff. Caution: by asking for credential you maybe talked about in your face, hehe.

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All I know, is you don't mess with a black woman's hair.

Just touching it can cause sudden castration of males, or exsanguination of females (usually due to blunt trauma).

quote Originally posted by blackrams: Fixed that for ya or maybe I should ask, what beverages did he serve? Ron

doh, got that wrong didn't I

I wish it was a saloon instead of a salon

quote Originally posted by ryan.hess: All I know, is you don't mess with a black woman's hair. Just touching it can cause sudden castration of males, or exsanguination of females (usually due to blunt trauma).

Had to look that one up, thanks for making me learn something today. Even if it isn't the most pleasant of terms.

Exsanguination: the action or process of draining or losing blood

Ron

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I was in pharmacy school in the late '70's. I grew up in the corn fields of northern Illinois. I didn't meet a black person until 8th grade. By the time I hit high school, the race riots were going on. The few black people I met seemed ticked off about something, so I just left them alone. I didn't know what the deal was. I was a kid.

By the late 70's, I was working in a pharmacy in the summers because we had to have so many "apprentice hours" in order to get a license. I was in Rockford in a pharmacy in a neighborhood that was about 85% black. By then, the race riots had calmed down and so you could talk to people to get to know them.

I didn't get to work solely in the pharmacy section in order to justify getting paid. So I worked in the store a lot, too.

Actual exchange between me and a customer:

C: Hey, man, can you get me that Ultrasheen?

Me: Sure. Here you go.

C: No, man, that's AFROsheen.

Me: Ohhh. Sorry. I saw "sheen" so I thought that was it.

C: That's OK.

Me: You know, that stuff seems kind of greasy like vaseline. Why do you put that on your head?

C: Oh, yeah. Our hair is a lot drier than your hair is. So we have to put grease on it to keep it from getting dry and breaking off.

Me: Oh, thanks, man. I didn't know that.


How was I supposed to know black hair is SIGNIFICANTLY different.

Results in razor bump for the guys, too.

Sheesh. Not knowing something about a particular group of people isn't racism, and it isn't intolerance.

In my work, you'd better know about skin healing differently, too. Keloids. Working with different racial genetic expressions IS different, and that isn't racism. That is knowing an individual and accounting for it.

frontal lobe: for somereason i just picture u like doc from back to the future lol....
i know im probly TOTALY off, but that would rock....

hrm... ima just call you doc for now on :P

quote Originally posted by hookdonspeed: frontal lobe: for somereason i just picture u like doc from back to the future lol.... i know im probly TOTALY off, but that would rock.... hrm... ima just call you doc for now on :P

Separated at birth.

I'm not going to say if I am close or not, because I don't want to ruin it for you!

You guys can call me whatever you want. Just please be smiling when you say it.

quote Originally posted by frontal lobe: Sheesh. Not knowing something about a particular group of people isn't racism, and it isn't intolerance. In my work, you'd better know about skin healing differently, too. Keloids. Working with different racial genetic expressions IS different, and that isn't racism. That is knowing an individual and accounting for it.