Next they get to vote.

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: only if you are paying that cities taxes. and if so - you were probably a voter for those who instituted this silliness. democracy. I agree it is dumb. it is useless. you cant even get into an R rated movie with one of these things. STATE ID. san fran is NOT a state.

I don't seem to be explaining the "thin end of the wedge" concept very well. Let me try one last time:

If you get a 'city' ID you now have the ability to open bank accounts in the 'city'. Now that you have a 'city' bank account you can apply for a NATIONALLY available credit card and use your 'city' ATM just about anywhere in the NATION. You can use your 'city' ID to get a STATE Driver License in the 'city' since the 'city' accepts 'city' ID and the 'city' is in the STATE, you can register to vote in the 'city'. If you are registered to vote in the 'city' they don't just give you a 'city' ballot, they give you the WHOLE magilla, State, Federal and City.....See?

Hence the 'city' ID allows you to vote in FEDERAL elections, STATE elections, and drive with a STATE issued Driver License.

quote Originally posted by Toddster: I don't seem to be explaining the "thin end of the wedge" concept very well. Let me try one last time: If you get a 'city' ID you now have the ability to open bank accounts in the 'city'. Now that you have a 'city' bank account you can apply for a NATIONALLY available credit card and use your 'city' ATM just about anywhere in the NATION. You can use your 'city' ID to get a STATE Driver License in the 'city' since the 'city' accepts 'city' ID and the 'city' is in the STATE, you can register to vote in the 'city'. If you are registered to vote in the 'city' they don't just give you a 'city' ballot, they give you the WHOLE magilla, State, Federal and City.....See? Hence the 'city' ID allows you to vote in FEDERAL elections, STATE elections, and drive with a STATE issued Driver License.

you can try - but its not working at all....
banks are corporations. they may or may not except city ID - I dont know of any that would. and, thru national regulations, most also require soc security numbers. if the person in question already has a stolen soc number - he already has all the false ID required - and the city of san fran ID is already moot. and - I also dont know of ANY state which will honor a city ID as valid enough to get a drivers license. and, I have never heard of city sponsered drivers licsense - but - it's their city. heck - maybe even drinking & driving will be allowed on their licesnses - it will be up to them to write up their rules. and, again - voting - yes - this ID may give them the ability to vote in local city elections. but - state & national voting identification is based on STATE ID. there is no path from city ID to state ID. NONE.
go and try to do any of these thing with a school ID. School ID carries more weight. So does your Moose or Elks club ID. we all agree this is silly. but dont ry to read in all kinds of BS with it. state ID is the only ID which carries weight. the only. and, often - a 2nd peice behind that is required. no city ID is EVER gonna get you anything, except maybe a discount at the city pool. and - city ID is at the cost of the city, and all aspects of it are the cost of the city. which the ID carriers pay for thru their own local city taxes. heck, maybe they'll do a favor, and have check boxes on the backs of them to check off if your an illegal, a disease carrier, transsexual, etc. for easier sorting after earthquakes. - oops - tasteless joke....

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quote Originally posted by Toddster: And if they are here illegally how do you know they are who they say they are to begin with?

Speaking of which. What documentation are illegals required to produce to get ID ?

quote Originally posted by cliffw: Speaking of which. What documentation are illegals required to produce to get ID ?

A membership card in the Democratic Party?

quote Originally posted by JazzMan: Yeah, no bank that I know of will open an account without a SS number AND a state/federal-issued photo ID such as a driver's license or passport. Someone with those is either legitimate or an ID thief, and the latter should be prosecuted to the maximum. JazzMan

Bank of America is corrupt!

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Bank of America to offer bank accounts, credit cards to illegal immigrants

Submitted by WWAY on 15 February 2007 - 10:38am.
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LOS ANGELES -- There's increasing outrage over Bank of America's plan to offer bank accounts and credit cards to illegal immigrants.
Many in Congress see it as a dangerous precedent that could open the country up to money laundering and drug money being sent through American banks.
Los Angeles County is one of the largest concentrations of illegal aliens in the country.
Bank of America is "reaching out to the community" to help people open bank accounts and then qualify for a credit card.
Bank of America is tapping a resource of people in our country, knowing that they deal only in a cash economy, is going after that money, and making a profit off of it -- making a profit off of illegal entry into the United States.
For identification Bank of America accepts the Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, a taxpayer ID number that illegal aliens commonly use instead of social security numbers.
Officials at the office of the comptroller of the currency confirmed today anyone with an ITIN, along with name address and date of birth, is allowed to open a bank account.
The bank then has to verify the information with another government-issued photo ID document. But that document can be issued by any government. So illegal immigrants often use matricula consular issued by the Mexican government, easily forged or available on the black market.
No passport is required. No visa is required. And once a bank account is opened, ID doesn't have to be rechecked for a credit card.
Sen. Richard Shelby, the ranking member of the Senate Banking Committee, released a statement saying he wants to ensure that the financial services industry is not offering products or services that facilitate encourage or even reward illegal immigration.
Fifty-one branches of Bank of America in Los Angeles County are launching the promotion.
Bank of America says they are simply going after an existing customer base in the Los Angeles area.