The one thing about this abortion debate that has always pissed me off is it's not like the situation "just happens" or is "plain old bad luck" obviously I am not including rape incest etc. in that statement. It is a direct result of a personal choice, that IS what women's right to choose should be.
Now if she chose to kill the baby by hanging herself that might be a fair trade.
Now that brings to mind the total hypocrisy of charging a killer with a double homicide for killing a pregnant woman when most people seem to believe LIFE isn't quantifiable until the child exits the womb.
I have no one to blame but myself for clicking on this thread! what the hell did I think I was going to be reading in here!
yes, exactly. it is not just "bad luck". she got herself knocked up. thats it. my post was pretty callous - but the thought of using a hot tub to broil it like a lobster....yikes....belly punches? c'mon.... I am fully on the side of HER CHOICE. but, I also know how badly this choice affects most women. especially when they are mom's already. go to doctor - get it "fixed". for all involved - sounds like the right answer. of course, the "baby drop-off" is a reasonable answer - but my impression of the mom makes me think she'd be pretty dang careless about her lifestyle while brewing up a new human, especially knowing she's just gonna chuck it out anyways.
ooops - I woke up pregnant - what happened?
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pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16233 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
Shes 21 and has a lower end of So-So BF, living in a trailer, and is a lil partier!
A “lil partier”, eh? As in alcohol and/or drug abuse?
Have all of you who are heavily promoting adoption in this situation put any thought into the high possibility here of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?
Sure, there’s a huge demand for HEALTHY babies to adopt, but do we really need more children on this planet who have severe behavioral problems and/or physical deformities?
I don’t really like the idea of using abortion as a birth control method myself, but sometimes it may be the lesser of two evils.
In any event, it’s ultimately up to the mother to decide what she’s going to do with her own body.
I would agree, pokey..until I consider the laziness,greed and shallowness of so many nowadays...how long before it becomes a wholesale commercial programme? Deliberately get pregnant, to earn money. Provide her with food, warmth and medical attention..no more, no less.Then it wouldn't BECOME a wholesale commercial programme... Nick
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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:
Find some parents willing to pay her expenses for pregnancy and living. Set some money aside for the time..
Some of you moral idiots would say that is immoral to sell a child but killing it is the going option.
Sell that baby don't kill it. People want kids that can't have them.
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Devotshka Member
Posts: 1000 From: Vero Beach, FL Registered: May 2001
Seriously though. Abortion. Adoption. Pick one. Home 'remedies' are likely to put her life in danger as well the fetus. If she can't afford 300$ for a scraping she shouldn't be scrumping.
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DjDraggin Member
Posts: 2854 From: St Louis, MO. USA Registered: Feb 2003
well shes in a ton of turmoil right now. Shes looking more like going though with it. I doubt she could handle giving he/her up for adoption. But she did say if she did give it up then shed give it to her brother which cant have them (I think) cause his wife went though kemo or something. which would be good but also weird..lol
Everyone is intitled to their own opinions and thoughts and there should be no reason to be scared to speak your mind. Look how long I've been here and still not gotten my ratings bar. LOL not like I care. I'm not a negitive person and I see the light in everything good or bad. so I never give negitives unless they are REALLLLY deserved. Opinions dont warrent ratings, I might be getting negs just for posting this but then again what if I didnt post this? Others out there, I'm sure have thought the same at some point, as to what to do in a situation like this? I'm sure there will be sicker things discussed in here, LOL. I know this forum too well....Thanks for all the input. I'll have her contact some services.
DAMN!!!!! I dont think Ive ever started an off-topic post that made it to two pages! wow..lol
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and is a lil partier! The first one sucked a ton of life out of her as is!
So the answer is to suck the life out of the second child so the partying can go on?? Money is not the issue - she can get medical care and deliver that child for free. Does she have parents that give a rip about her? Maybe they could help.
Some things are so sad to read about. I am without a doubt totally out of touch with reality.
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84fierotrevor Member
Posts: 4998 From: puyallup washington Registered: Oct 2001
Seriously though. Abortion. Adoption. Pick one. Home 'remedies' are likely to put her life in danger as well the fetus. If she can't afford 300$ for a scraping she shouldn't be scrumping.
hahahaha, that picture is hella funny.
whatever you do don't inform the boyfriend that punching her in the stomach will take care of it.
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pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16233 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
I would agree, pokey..until I consider the laziness,greed and shallowness of so many nowadays...how long before it becomes a wholesale commercial programme? Deliberately get pregnant, to earn money. Provide her with food, warmth and medical attention..no more, no less.Then it wouldn't BECOME a wholesale commercial programme... Nick
Not any worse than having kids for the welfare benefit I'm sure. Besides any market can only bear what it is worth. Getting pregnant is a hard way to make money I would think. But then there are incredibly stupid people .
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Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
Originally posted by Patrick: ...Sure, there’s a huge demand for HEALTHY babies to adopt, but do we really need more children on this planet who have severe behavioral problems and/or physical deformities?...
I found this in the Trash section, it seems to me that it makes this point with an exclamation mark...
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Posts: 5907 From: Grain Valley, MO Registered: May 2005
if you have one child, and you aint ready for another, the logical thing would be to not carry on in the same way that got you to that point. after one, you know the chances.....but it's not always this black and white. future planning would be an asset regardless, to avoid this set of options. i wish everyone involved the best of decisions...i was in a similar situation, but i was more ready for the reprocussions at the time, and no matter what, my choice wasn't the one that had impact in the end. things would be harder now yes, but worse? not with this woman