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Some background on John Kerry's wife by avengador1
Started on: 07-02-2004 05:29 PM
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From an email I received:

Just because this is on the internet doesn't make this true.
----- Original Message -----

A few notes on Mrs. John Kerry. (She hates being called that, by the way!)

Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry. Married to Senator Kerry in 1995, she only took his name eighteen months ago. She is an interesting paradox of conflicts. I thought John Kerry was scary, but he doesn't hold a candle to his wife ...

Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry was born in Mozambique, the daughter of a Portuguese physician, and was educated in Switzerland and South Africa. Fluent in five languages, she was working as a United Nations interpreter in Geneva in the mid-60's when she met a handsome young American, H. John Heinz III, who worked at a bank in Geneva. He told her his family was "in the food business."

They were married in 1966 and returned to Pittsburgh where his family ran the giant H.J. Heinz food company. He was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1971, and in 1976 he was elected to the first of three terms in the United States Senate. A Republican, he wrote a burning diatribe against some of the causes backed by young House member John Kerry.)

Several years later, in 1991, he was killed when his plane collided with a Sun Oil Company helicopter over a Philadelphia suburb. The senator, his pilot and co-pilot, and both of Sun's helicopter pilots were killed.

He was survived by his wife, Teresa, and their three young sons. Four years later, having inherited Heinz's $500 million fortune, she married Senator John Forbes Kerry, the liberal then-junior Senator from Massachusetts. She became a registered Democrat and the process of her radicalization was set in motion.

Heinz Kerry is not shy about telling people that she required Kerry to sign a pre- nuptial agreement before they were married. John Kerry may not have check-writing privileges on the Heinz catsup and pickle fortune, but he is certainly a willing and uncomplaining beneficiary of it. A lot of hard-earned money, made through many years of hawking catsup, mustard, and pickles has fallen into the hands of two people, who despise successful entrepreneurship and who believe in the confiscatory redistribution of wealth.

So how does Mrs. Heinz Kerry spend John Heinz's money?

Just one example:

According to the G2 Bulletin, an online intelligence newsletter of WorldNetDaily, in the years between 1995-2001 she gave more than $4 million to an organization called the Tides Foundation. And what does the Tides Foundation do with John Heinz's money?

1. They support numerous anti-war groups, including Ramsey Clark's International Action Center. Clark has offered to defend Saddam Hussein when he's tried. They support the Democratic Justice Fund, a joint venture of the Tides Foundation and billionaire hate-monger George Soros. The Democratic Justice Fund seeks to ease restrictions on Muslim immigration from "terrorist" states.

2. They support the Council for American-Islamic Relations, whose leaders are known to have close ties to the terrorist group, Hamas.

3. They support the National Lawyers Guild, organized as a communist front during the Cold War era. One of their attorneys, Lynne Stewart, has been arrested for helping a client, Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, communicate with terror cells in Egypt. He is the convicted mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

4. They support the "Barrio Warriors," a radical Hispanic group, whose primary goal is to return all of Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to Mexico.

These are but a few of the radical groups that benefit, through the anonymity provided by the Tides Foundation, from the generosity of our would-be first lady, the wealthy widow of Republican senator John Heinz, and now the wife of the Democratic senator who aspires to be the 44th President of the United States.

If voters will only try to imagine a woman such as Teresa Heinz Kerry, the fairy godmother of the radical left, laying her head on a pillow each night just inches from the President of the United States, hopefully, they will decide that the only way these two will ever be allowed into the White House is with an engraved invitation in hand.


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Originally posted by avengador1:

He was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1971, and in 1976 he was elected to the first of three terms in the United States Senate. A Republican, he wrote a burning diatribe against some of the causes backed by young House member John Kerry.)

Umm... Kerry was never in the House. Kerry Didn't get into the Senate until 1985. Before that he was a Lieutenant Governor.

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Originally posted by Wichita:


Umm... Kerry was never in the House. Kerry Didn't get into the Senate until 1985. Before that he was a Lieutenant Governor.

Re-read it.

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Originally posted by Wichita:


Umm... Kerry was never in the House. Kerry Didn't get into the Senate until 1985. Before that he was a Lieutenant Governor.

It was John Heinz elected to the house and senate. You must have missed the reading comprehension classes in school.

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Re-read it.

Excuse me?

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It was John Heinz elected to the house and senate. You must have missed the reading comprehension classes in school.

Republican, he wrote a burning diatribe against some of the causes backed by young House member John Kerry.) Am I missing something. I didn't see Heinz in that.

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That is very scary.
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Originally posted by avengador1:
Just because this is on the internet doesn't make this true.

But it's so much easier to buy the lie then to seek the truth.

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well she [mrs kerry] has not killed any one
DID YOU KNOW MRS W BUSH HAS!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by avengador1:

4. They support the "Barrio Warriors," a radical Hispanic group, whose primary goal is to return all of Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to Mexico.

I think it already belongs to them.

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Originally posted by Old Lar:


It was John Heinz elected to the house and senate. You must have missed the reading comprehension classes in school.

Looks like you had it wrong. { - } for the comment.

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Originally posted by avengador1:


4. They support the "Barrio Warriors," a radical Hispanic group, whose primary goal is to return all of Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to Mexico.


And why is that such a bad idea? Ever been to Texas?
Hell, some would argue that they already "own" it anyway.

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The usual, attack and attack and attack, spread lies and ennuendos and half-truths everywhere, distort facts, add bias, and keep on attacking at every opportunity. If a lie is told often enough, it becomes the truth. Thanks, Adolph, for that tidbit of wisdom.

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The usual, attack and attack and attack, spread lies and ennuendos and half-truths everywhere, distort facts, add bias, and keep on attacking at every opportunity. If a lie is told often enough, it becomes the truth. Thanks, Adolph, for that tidbit of wisdom.

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Are you talking about Republicans or Democrats here, because I can't tell.

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Look at the bright side, we survived Hillary as first lady.
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Originally posted by avengador1:

If voters will only try to imagine a woman such as Teresa Heinz Kerry, the fairy godmother of the radical left, laying her head on a pillow each night just inches from the President of the United States, hopefully, they will decide that the only way these two will ever be allowed into the White House is with an engraved invitation in hand.

Yea, you figured it out. The liberals (communists) have placed a mole right where they want one. First they spread all sorts of lies about Bush (Fahrenheit 9/11) to get Kerry elected, then once he's in they activate his wife the sleeper agent. She kills John in his sleep, grabs the missile codes, and throws open the doors to the Whitehouse. Her radical leftist commrades storm in, assume control of the country and deliver the southwest back to Mexico.

Mwahahahaha

Viva la Revolución!

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Yea, you figured it out. The liberals (communists) have placed a mole right where they want one. First they spread all sorts of lies about Bush (Fahrenheit 9/11) to get Kerry elected, then once he's in they activate his wife the sleeper agent. She kills John in his sleep, grabs the missile codes, and throws open the doors to the Whitehouse. Her radical leftist commrades storm in, assume control of the country and deliver the southwest back to Mexico.

Mwahahahaha

Viva la Revolución!

That would be funny if the last time a Democrat was in office he didn't give away the Panama Canal.

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Originally posted by Wichita:


Looks like you had it wrong. { - } for the comment.


Let me rewrite it for you so you get it right. Old Lar was right with what he said.

"John HEINZ was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1971, and in 1976 he was elected to the first of three terms in the United States Senate. A Republican, HEINZ wrote a burning diatribe against some of the causes backed by young House member John Kerry.)"

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Originally posted by kslish:

.........young House member John Kerry



I believe that this is what he's taking issue with........

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Originally posted by 88GTNeverfinished:
Her radical leftist commrades storm in, assume control of the country and deliver the southwest back to Mexico.
Mwahahahaha
Viva la Revolución!

But we have Spiderman to save us!
Unless he's too busy getting the AIDS vaccine-He could easily kill all the banditos

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Originally posted by kslish:

Let me rewrite it for you so you get it right. Old Lar was right with what he said.

"John HEINZ was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1971, and in 1976 he was elected to the first of three terms in the United States Senate. A Republican, HEINZ wrote a burning diatribe against some of the causes backed by young House member John Kerry.)"


What Firefox said

The first post that I posted had it quoted. Even what you quoted is the same. LOOK at the last four words of that sentence. It says HOUSE MEMBER JOHN KERRY.

What is what I was refering to.

But people slammed on me saying I cannot read. I guess they skipped it themselves.

Man! It's all good dudes, just stating something that was wrong. I KNOW Teresa first husband was John Heinz and he was a House member and a Senator.

It's all good.

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Was afraid you would give up or get angry. Way to stay the course. {+}
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Heres something to stirr the pot..
I believe John Kerry is an alcoholic.
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Originally posted by avengador1:

...I thought John Kerry was scary, but he doesn't hold a candle to his wife ...

Kind of like Bill and Hillary?

 
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well she [mrs kerry] has not killed any one
DID YOU KNOW MRS W BUSH HAS!!!!!!!!



What?!


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That would be funny if the last time a Democrat was in office he didn't give away the Panama Canal.

I hope that isn't a serious statement. Like we "owned" the canal zone.

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Originally posted by ray b:

well she [mrs kerry] has not killed any one
DID YOU KNOW MRS W BUSH HAS!!!!!!!

 
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What?!

she as a teenager killed a man in a car crash, she was at fault
she [L Bush] has talked about the car crash on the record



"""Mrs. Bush ran stop sign in fatal crash

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - Details in a 1963 accident report say that Laura Bush, then 17, ran a stop sign in the Texas crash that killed a friend in another car. The report, adding information to previous reports of the crash, was released to The Associated Press on Wednesday."""

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm
http://www.blintz.com/directory/Car_Accident_Report/

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Okay. She had an accident. Somebody died. Tragic, but it happens. Especially where teenagers are involved.
I'm pretty sure there was no political agenda involved.

Since we're talking about car crashes, should I mention Ted Kennedy?
I thought not.

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Carter was the one who signed legislation to hand over the Panama canal early and he wasn't the last Democrat in office.
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Originally posted by ray b:

she as a teenager killed a man in a car crash, she was at fault
she [L Bush] has talked about the car crash on the record

"""Mrs. Bush ran stop sign in fatal crash

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - Details in a 1963 accident report say that Laura Bush, then 17, ran a stop sign in the Texas crash that killed a friend in another car. The report, adding information to previous reports of the crash, was released to The Associated Press on Wednesday."""

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm
http://www.blintz.com/directory/Car_Accident_Report/


Just seems appropriate to post this:

Running stop signs is not an accident, it is deliberate. So anyone who kills someone by running a stop sign killed that person deliberately. That makes it murder IMHO.

I watched a friend of mine get hit by a truck that ran a stop sign, he got hit and I ran into the door of the truck as we were riding our bikes. We had right of way. I don't give stop sign runners any slack at all. They should all have their licenses revoked permanently, they don't deserve the right to drive.

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quote
Originally posted by Raydar:

Okay. She had an accident. Somebody died. Tragic, but it happens. Especially where teenagers are involved.
I'm pretty sure there was no political agenda involved.

Since we're talking about car crashes, should I mention Ted Kennedy?
I thought not.


Of course we should mention Ted Kennedy, what he did was wrong. Chappaquidick (sp?) gets brought up on pretty much a continual basis year in and year out. I think the L. Bush stop sign running killing should be brought up year in and year out as well, that would make it even and fair. Also, G. Bush's drunk driving, the daughters' multiple problems with underage drinking, N. Bush's involvment with the collapse of Silverado Savings that cost taxpayers a billion dollars during the RTC debacle, J. Bush's multiple shady and outright criminal dealings that have cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars, etc. Why be selective for Democrats, the Republicans in just the Bush family have enough skeletons to go around. There's lots more, like Janklow's almost 20 major traffic stops during his last term, none of which resulting in citations being issued because of, among other things, fear of retribution against the officers making the stops.

Wow, while researching topics for this post I didn't realize just how deep crime runs in the Bush family, all the way back to the Nazis.

Here're some cites:
http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html
http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/bushcrimefamily.htm
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1992/09/bushboys.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_041403_bush.html
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595074311,00.html

Heck, type in the keywords bush crime family in google and you get 916,000 hits, almost a million hits.

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Speaking of crime, what about John Kerry and his support for North Viet Nam? That could be considered treason. I guess that's not a liberal crime.
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Originally posted by fierobear:

Speaking of crime, what about John Kerry and his support for North Viet Nam? That could be considered treason. I guess that's not a liberal crime.

Oh so now I get it.

When someone opposes the government it is assumed they are supporters of the "enemy" and should be treated as such.

If you could explain the followin quote to me where it states a person speeking out in opposition of the government is guilty of treason.

 
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"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes"


I'm not one to get upset easy but damn it, this is Independance Day weekend!

Tomorow we celebrate the Declaration of Independance.... If anything I find you in contempt of it and its meaning... This is the United States of America and not a communist / nazi held territory where people are held and tried for treason because they speek out against THIS government.

Get with the freakin program there buttercup.

I don't want Kerry as the next president but the guy is a damn American war hero and I honor that at the very least.

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Running stop signs is not an accident, it is deliberate. So anyone who kills someone by running a stop sign killed that person deliberately. That makes it murder IMHO.

If you've never been distracted and missed a traffic signal, encountered a stop sign obscured by vegetation or vehicles, never gone as little as even 1 mph over the speed limit, or never ever violated any other traffic law then I guess you're a hell of a lot more perfect than me or any other driver out there. Congratulations. Accidents happen, including missing stop signs/signals for a variety of reasons. I might agree that there is a degree of negligence in most cases, but I most certainly not agree that most of these types of traffic violations are deliberate. Especially when committed by a relatively inexperienced teenage driver.

Why not just be honest and confess to your blindingly extreme anti-Bush bias?

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Originally posted by fierobear:

Speaking of crime, what about John Kerry and his support for North Viet Nam? That could be considered treason. I guess that's not a liberal crime.


Which support? The picture of him and Fonda at an anti-war rally? Faked by conservative: http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry2.asp

He was never ever in support of North Vietnam. He was against the war there, though I doubt you have a sufficient grasp of subtlety to understand the difference.

BTW, Kerry went, but Bush used his daddy's connections to wiggle out of his responsibilities like a coward, then didn't even bother showing up for the Air National Guard duty he signed up for to get out of going to Vietnam.

Kerry ran down and killed an NVA who had an RPG not unlike what are being used to blow up our soldiers in Iraq and was preparing to use it on Kerry's boat and crew. The only thing Bush killed was a bunch of beers while he was out drinking and partying as his fellow countrymen died in Vietnam.

Yeah, keep supporting that AWOL deserting coward Bush.

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http://www.wketchup.com

LOL

I think I'll pencil in a "to do" for monday. Meanwhile I guess I'll just have to settle for generic on tomorows regularly scheduled burgar.

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If you've never been distracted and missed a traffic signal, encountered a stop sign obscured by vegetation or vehicles, never gone as little as even 1 mph over the speed limit, or never ever violated any other traffic law then I guess you're a hell of a lot more perfect than me or any other driver out there. Congratulations. Accidents happen, including missing stop signs/signals for a variety of reasons. I might agree that there is a degree of negligence in most cases, but I most certainly not agree that most of these types of traffic violations are deliberate. Especially when committed by a relatively inexperienced teenage driver.

Why not just be honest and confess to your blindingly extreme anti-Bush bias?


I'm sorry, but when I watched my friend get hit by that driver I was only 11 years old, much too young to have formed any political opinions. I was, however, old enough to form the opinion that anyone that runs a stop sign is a fscking aszhole. Even today, 30 years later, I still have painfully vivid memories of him getting hit, of me slamming into the side of the truck, of the driver saying over and over again "I'm sorry". Well, guess what, my opinion of stop sign runners was formed right then, long before Bush, and has nothing to do with him or his actions.

I started driving when I was 16, bought my first new car when I was 17, and I had no problem distinguishing stop signs, and no problems stopping for them, from the first moment I stepped foot in a car. If I come up to a stop sign in the middle of desolate countryside with a 10 mile view in all directions and no cars approaching, I still come to a complete stop. Why? Because I choose to, that's why. My choice. As "captain of my ship" I have that responsibility. This is a matter of principle with me.

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Where can I get a case?

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Originally posted by BN Boomer:

Why not just be honest and confess to your blindingly extreme anti-Bush bias?

Mind if I take this one Jazzman? I owe you a chuckel.

No BN Boomer.

If you cant grasp that then perhaps you should let go of something else to free up that hand, I mean do you really need both to grip that firm reality of yours?


Accidents happen because people DO NOT PAY ATTENTION and have no clue how to DRIVE DEFENSIVLY.

I believe Jazzman does and the reason I say that is because I also don't blow red lighs.. or even yellows! I also STOP at the stop signs and I ALWAYS LOOK, SIGNAL THEN make my lane change... I also ALWAYS stay in the right lane unless passing slower traffic.

However I do speed when and where I can get away with it BUT thats just me.. 10 years (licensed and add another 10 when I drove without it.) , no speeding tickets no accidents attributed to MY ignorance. I have been run off the road 3 times by road owning cranial analfollicles and was compensated very handsomly.

Oh and I wear my seatbelt and my car does not move until my passanger either makes the connection or gets out and walks.

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