quote Originally posted by craigsfiero2007: I am about to go to Afghanistan here soon., thats an exotic country.

Is that trip all expenses paid ?

But really, at the end of the day, a car is just a car. And I say this while being an enthusiast myself. I am on PFF too, and I have my own Pontiac Fiero that I cherish. I'm also pretty young at 21.

Things like getting your legal situation straight, a job, and the girlfriend are far more important.

I'm not saying get rid of the car - try and have it all if possible. But if you can't have it all, then the car should be axed before those other things.

quote Originally posted by pmbrunelle: Things like getting your legal situation straight, a job, and the girlfriend are far more important.

Fieros are cheaper than women!

It's funny that you guys mention the military. That was the plan my whole life. It was my dream to serve as a Marine. That dream has been crushed. I have a long, well documented history of severe asthma. I was betting on it going away by now, but that hasn't happened. It has vastly improved since I was a child, but it is still there. As a child I spent a lot of time in and out of hospitals, and although I am no longer that severe, I still can't get by without medicines.

Anyway, I am glad that this thread has taken a slightly lighter turn. It really has made me feel better. Trust me, I have felt pretty s***** about all of this, and for a bit there I was regretting this thread. I love this community, and it hurts seeing some of the people I respect sooo much telling me that they are losing respect for me. I don't want to have a crap reputation because of a few mistakes I made. Bottom line is, the only person who got hurt in all this was me. Yes, it could have been much worse, but thankfully, that didn't happen. That's what's important. I get to move forward and learn from this. I can't tell you how much I realize the importance of this lesson, and the luck I've had thus far. I am going to try and fix my legality behind the wheel tomorrow. I am going to try and take out a loan to cover my overdue ticket, reinstate my license and update my tags. I'll let everyone know how that goes.

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Never really meant to be a jerk but these are the life lessons I think everyone of us goes through. The sooner you acknowledge them the quicker you can move on.

And just remember, when you think your that screwed up always remember this.....

The world has Charlie Sheen! WINNING!

quote Originally posted by mattwa: This is why I don't ask the forum for advice other then Fiero related items, all you get is a brutal beat down when your already down enough as is. This guy needs support, not someone theoretically yelling in his face about how stupid he was when he did the things he did.

Sorry, but support is NOT what he needs.

quote Originally posted by weaselbeak: Sorry, but support is NOT what he needs.

I agree...

Would I rather someone tell me what I want to hear, or the truth...
Sometimes a good slap in the face is whats needed. Just hope he gets this sorted out so he don't get cuffs slapped on his wrists...

It happened---just make sure it does not happed again. ---Here with no insurance minimum fine here in Ontario is $5000. 30mph over the limit is up to $10,000. fine and car impounded and lic suspended on the spot You are lucky in all respects---- dont push it.

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quote Originally posted by weaselbeak: Sorry, but support is NOT what he needs.

Ok, there's feedback, then there's harasssing negativity. This thread is getting to where feedback isn't what's being provided.

Did he make his own decisions on this? YES

Did his decisions turn out to have serious consequences attached? YES

Has he now realized he made some bad decisions? YES/MAYBE

Is he sorry that he has experienced these consequences? YES as anyone else usually would be

Is trying to ram this "truth" down his throat, and make him take responsibility for his decisions actually helping him in any way? NO

Seriously, unless someone is planning on offering some valid advice or a different perspective, why take the time to post something that is pretty much useless? If he takes responsibility for what he has done, then the words aren't needed. If he doesn't then the words won't make a difference. It is HIS situation and consequences to deal with after all. It's not like he hurt anyone else, especially anyone on this forum. Give the guy a break.

Now for some advice, don't throw your situations out for public feedback unless you're ok with the criticism that will come. Some things are better not to share, except with people you personally know.

DEY TOOK ER JERBS!

I haven't read the whole thread yet, so I'll leave you with this....

This whole ordeal is what us older folks call a "Character Builder". When you get to be our age, you'll know why.

Remember, we don't learn from our successes nearly as much as we do from our failures.

Best of luck......You've got a long road ahead of you. Travel it wisely.

When I was 19, I was astonished at how little my farther knew about life. When I was 25, I was amazed at how much my father learned in 6 years...

I can remember doing similar things when I was your age. At the time all of the laws seemed like arbitrary rules that were there to make my life more difficult (I was in a similar financial situation to yours at that time). As someone in an earlier post said, it's only when you get older and have kids, etc. that you actually realize that these laws are here for a reason. When you are in this "desperate" situation it seems like you have no choice.

I too was fortunate, maybe more fortunate than you in that I was never actually caught. Kinda reminds me of all sorts of stories I've heard older guys tell about crazy things they did in the old days like doing 100 MPH down the highway racing each other home from work or whatever. When these same old guys see some 19 year old doing the same thing they used to do, it's another story. Anyway, I'm just trying to say that you should learn from this, and move on. Probably lots of the other guys jumping all over you in their replies have done things like these in the past.

Also, save yourself many years of grief and untold headaches by following some of the other guys advice, like save up for things before you buy them. I know it's a bummer to live with your parents when you want your independence but trust me (I have a lot of grey hairs to prove my point). If you can learn to wait for things until you can really afford them, you may not keep up with your friends, but you will have way fewer struggles in life. If you don't develop this habit young then you will never get out of the cycle you are in.

Anyway that's my 2 cents. Just trying to help.

First, I'm sorry this has happened to you.

Second, I hate people like you that knowingly drive without insurance (suspended license, etc...). Why? Because I was hit by an uninsured motorist, much like yourself. He claimed he had no luck, to go along with no insurance. I did have insurance, thank God, but why should my rates risk going up because some jerk thought he could get by without? I don't care if you're just driving to work to pay for your ticket, or whatever other crap you say. I'm glad life kicked you in the balls. Hopefully you'll stay on your knees a little while and stand up like a man and do the right thing from now on. Buy insurance. Pay your tickets.

Third, what kind of crap ass job do you have making $150/week? Someone said join the military and I saw your retort about having asthma. Have you talked to a recruiter to see if you could get a waiver? Let's say you don't want to go into the military, McDonalds pays more than what you're making now. Go flip burgers. It's not as hard as you're making it out to be to find a new job. It's always easier to find a job when you already have one, than to find one when you don't have one.

Fourth, to the guy who says he needs support. It's obvious he needs financial support more than anything in his life. If he chose to post his story on a public forum, looking for support, he posted in the wrong place. I agree with the poster who said he needs a verbal slap in the face to wake his ass up to stop knowingly breaking the law, and putting other motorists at risk. If you want to hug his neck and pat him on the back and tell him everything will be alright, go right ahead. I'm hoping to set him straight before he winds up a ward of the state and burden on taxpayers.

Updates.

Fist off I have insurance now. So get off my freakin back about that. I am aware that the decisions I made were stupid, and I got lucky. We have established that already, so let's move on. Also, "Hate" is a strong word for something like this. Please refrain from hating someone you know little to nothing about. I would appreciate it. It was a very short period within which I didn't have insurance, and I know it was wrong. It's fixed now and will be staying that way.

Second, it will be costing me near $400 to get my car back on the road legally. I have been approved to refinance my loan to cover that, and will be finalizing that tomorrow at 10 am. I will be arranging to get a ride to work in the meantime, and hopefully by the end of the week I will have my license back and be good to go.

I understand the risk in posting this here, but I just needed someone to talk to about this. So whatever your intent or approach in replying, whether I liked it or not, thank you. This has been a cool way to monitor my life from other people's prospective. Thanks guys.

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quote Originally posted by mptighe: Ok, there's feedback, then there's harasssing negativity. This thread is getting to where feedback isn't what's being provided. Did he make his own decisions on this? YES Did his decisions turn out to have serious consequences attached? YES Has he now realized he made some bad decisions? YES/MAYBE Is he sorry that he has experienced these consequences? YES as anyone else usually would be Is trying to ram this "truth" down his throat, and make him take responsibility for his decisions actually helping him in any way? NO Seriously, unless someone is planning on offering some valid advice or a different perspective, why take the time to post something that is pretty much useless? If he takes responsibility for what he has done, then the words aren't needed. If he doesn't then the words won't make a difference. It is HIS situation and consequences to deal with after all. It's not like he hurt anyone else, especially anyone on this forum. Give the guy a break. Now for some advice, don't throw your situations out for public feedback unless you're ok with the criticism that will come. Some things are better not to share, except with people you personally know.

hmmmm well lets start with this. he made a post here telling all what had happened to him witch is bad. but he did it to himself! he gets caught 3 times and was totally surprised each time it got worse. with the attitude as they took his car the 2ND time he put F*** how could this happen. then he didnt show up to court!!! wow ok. then the 3RD time!!!!!!!! are you kidding me?!?! then posted a few more F*** in there for intelligence purposes and acted like how can they do this.... now come on! my 3 year old daughter dont even act this immature. The only thing i can think is he played to much grand theft auto and pressed the cheat button and expected that to work in the real world. if the cop/cops that pulled you over was nice they would of let you go. trust me they can do that but many wont do it because they know theres 10 year old kids out there that if they let them off easy there going to do it again and again oh yea and again.............

Did he get pulled over for for many things wrong. YES

Did he skip the court date. YES

Did he fail to PAY his fine. YES

Did he get caught the 2nd time. YES

Did he act irate when they took his car because HE DID IT AGAIN. YES

Did he get caught AGAIN making it the 3rd time! And YES again.

Did he act extremely irate that the hauled his car away because of his own stupidity. YES

Did he show his true age by posting to many F**** in his post. YES 6 times total................

See its all on how you present yourself and the young kid did it all the wrong way. He needs to REread the post he typed and say wow maybe there right. also you post on here to get input back other wise why post. there are many members on here that want to chime in on this and i believe most of us feel the same way. its time to grow up like before you got your car!

When did I act surprised or irate? Please tell me. I think we are talking about other people here. Perhaps YOU should re-read the first post. I was POLITE and COURTEOUS to the Officers with whom I dealt with. My car was taken ONCE. Not once did I lose my temper or raise my voice. I ALWAYS admitted fault. In fact if you read my first post you will see that I admitted fault BEFORE he ran a check on me. So, does your 3 Year old daughter tell you she did something wrong BEFORE you catch her? I didn't think so. I put F*** because I am mad. Mad at who you ask? I'm mad at MYSELF, not the world, not the law, not the economy, ME. So perhaps you should read more and talk less. I SCREWED UP. How many times do I need to reiterate that before you are happy? Even now, the BOLD stuff isn't me yelling, it's just to help you read what I'm typing. Anything else you would like to discuss here?

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quote Originally posted by Ruffy: hmmmm well lets start with this. he made a post here telling all what had happened to him witch is bad. but he did it to himself! he gets caught 3 times and was totally surprised each time it got worse. with the attitude as they took his car the 2ND time he put F*** how could this happen. then he didnt show up to court!!! wow ok. then the 3RD time!!!!!!!! are you kidding me?!?! then posted a few more F*** in there for intelligence purposes and acted like how can they do this.... now come on! my 3 year old daughter dont even act this immature. The only thing i can think is he played to much grand theft auto and pressed the cheat button and expected that to work in the real world. if the cop/cops that pulled you over was nice they would of let you go. trust me they can do that but many wont do it because they know theres 10 year old kids out there that if they let them off easy there going to do it again and again oh yea and again............. Did he get pulled over for for many things wrong. YES Did he skip the court date. YES Did he fail to PAY his fine. YES Did he get caught the 2nd time. YES Did he act irate when they took his car because HE DID IT AGAIN. YES Did he get caught AGAIN making it the 3rd time! And YES again. Did he act extremely irate that the hauled his car away because of his own stupidity. YES Did he show his true age by posting to many F**** in his post. YES 6 times total................ See its all on how you present yourself and the young kid did it all the wrong way. He needs to REread the post he typed and say wow maybe there right. also you post on here to get input back other wise why post. there are many members on here that want to chime in on this and i believe most of us feel the same way. its time to grow up like before you got your car!

Are you serious? So because he showed emotion and frustration at the situation (and his own bad judgment) that makes him an immature person, and makes it ok for you to throw personal insults at him like comparing him unfavorably to your 3 year old daughter? Funny, you posted the same 4 letter word in your post 3 times, edited out or not, does that make YOU an immature person? You take my words and decide to debate with me when all I was saying is that there's no purpose in being harsh. Obviously from the "tone" of the words you chose, that's just your nature. Obviously, using your logic, you're a mean-spirited person who judges everyone he sees and thinks himself above everyone else in life, especially people that make mistakes. See how fun it is to assume things? Luckily, I don't actually believe this about you, and hope you're actually a level-headed person who at least treats people with compassion when you're face to face with them. Of course that's an assumption too, but I'd rather assume that.

My advice is to take the money from refinancing the loan, go to the nearest casino, and multiply your money.

J/K. Sorry we can't offer much but tough love, but remember, most of us on here are parents! So stop being such a slacker, and in the words of my friend Jim Carey on 'Liar Liar':

"STOP BREAKING THE LAW A$$HOLE!!"

LOL, sorry for that.

Just a tip:Stop driving uninsured.............

quote Originally posted by TheRealShadowX: It's funny that you guys mention the military. That was the plan my whole life. It was my dream to serve as a Marine. That dream has been crushed. I have a long, well documented history of severe asthma. I was betting on it going away by now, but that hasn't happened. It has vastly improved since I was a child, but it is still there. As a child I spent a lot of time in and out of hospitals, and although I am no longer that severe, I still can't get by without medicines.

I don't know if the Marines accept people with asthma, atleast not in Combat MOS's. I know the Army lets people in with Asthma, I believe it limits you to Non-Combat MOS's but not sure. Either way you can still serve, you just have to maintain and control your Asthma, I know people that have Asthma and carry a Inhaler around with them. I would check into it.

holy crap, you're refinancing your car over $400?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!??! It would be so much easier/smarter/less STUPID AS **** to get a second job at McDowell's...

before this goes any further, I think we need to have a group hug.

"Stop breaking the law @$$hole!" - Jim carry (Liar Liar)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...gnlU&feature=related

LOL sorry couldnt resist........Damn it somebody already got u with this one, great minds think alike.

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quote Originally posted by Hulki U. My-BFF: My advice is to take the money from refinancing the loan, go to the nearest casino, and multiply your money. J/K. Sorry we can't offer much but tough love, but remember, most of us on here are parents! So stop being such a slacker, and in the words of my friend Jim Carey on 'Liar Liar': "STOP BREAKING THE LAW A$$HOLE!!" LOL, sorry for that.

quote Originally posted by ALJR: Maybe I can help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-mnYLPxwtc

Beat you to it on page 1

The hardest thing in the world for some men to do is admit when they screw up, you can do that so you're miles ahead of a lot of guys, you know how to admit your fault, pay your dues and move on. You live and you learn, some day you will look back and have a good laugh about all this, trust me on that!

Keep looking for a 2nd job, apply for jobs and go to interviews, someone will appreciate you and give you a chance, trust me on that too. Best of luck to you!

from the posting rules...

quote Don't try to circumvent the censor system. The forum software automatically censors some 4-letter words (and even some 5- and 6-letter words). Don't try to circumvent it. We all know what you mean with "you svck" (actually, "suck" isn't censored of course, but you get my point).

quote Originally posted by TheRealShadowX: Fist off I have insurance now.

Good job. You're taking the proper steps in the proper order to get things squared away. It sucks to make that insurance payment every single month.. but it sucks more to be sitting on the other side of the glass from men with guns and badges and responding "uhhh" to the question "May I see your license, registration and proof of insurance please?"

quote Second, it will be costing me near $400 to get my car back on the road legally. I have been approved to refinance my loan to cover that, and will be finalizing that tomorrow at 10 am.

Well.. I suppose that's one way to do it.. and you were able to do it on your own (I assume you didn't involve a co-signer in this). But remember, you're going to be paying A LOT for that refinance. I recommend you make extra payments on that lone as much and often as possible to pay it down as quick as possible. Interest sucks.. big time.

quote I will be arranging to get a ride to work in the meantime, and hopefully by the end of the week I will have my license back and be good to go.

There's nothing wrong with getting a ride to work. I had to do it myself for 6 months one time.

quote I understand the risk in posting this here, but I just needed someone to talk to about this. So whatever your intent or approach in replying, whether I liked it or not, thank you. This has been a cool way to monitor my life from other people's prospective. Thanks guys.

Self reflection is often painful. It's amazing how ugly that reflection can sometimes be. Recognizing that fact is a sign of maturity. Well done

being only 22. i have done afew dumb things when i was in my late teens.
crashed my car for being stupid. i learned from that mistake fairly quickly.
lost my licence once. i am still on probation and if i get 1 more ticket i would loose my licence for 6 months. i already lost it for 3 months.
from loosing my licence. i learned very fast to slowdown and not be stupid about driving. i still have fun driving. like busting out a mad powerslide in a turn. but only if there isnt any cars, people, police, anything that would happen if something bad happened. loosing control and hitting a car or person. better to hit a tree or go in the ditch and slapping yourself in the face for being dumb. i do that once in awhile if i loose it and hit the ditch or curb. its just life lessons. some people just learn the hard way. and it seems like your learning the hard way. after the first ticket you got. i would have just left it at that. im sure your wishing the same thing because you probably wouldnt be in this mess at the moment.

some of the fourm members are older and much wiser then us youngins. since they been there and done that. learned the hard way. they dont want us to do the same mistakes they have made. they have been around alot longer then we have. (not saying you guys are old timers!!!)
they may seem like there being jerks. there just being simple and blunt. sometimes us younger ones needs a little butt kicking to get butts into gear. now when you have kids. you can tell them not to make the same mistake you have made when they start learning to drive. cant undo the past. just look to the future and plan out how you are going to get there.
i have had hard times with money issues. im having a little bit of issues right now with money. but arent we all? :P

i would personally find a 2nd job. just spend a weekend handing out resumes. you never know what might happen. someone could be getting fired. or quiting and you be the replacement.
you never know until you try. also dont let anyone tell you that you cant. only person who says you cant is yourself.

what you could do is get aloan to pay off all your law stuff. pay it all off at once. then that right there would be a big weight lifted off your shoulders. pay off what you owe on the loan after.
another thing you could do is maybe ask your parents for money and pay them back slowly once you make aittle more. $20 one week. $50 another week. you get the picture. shows them you are trying to get your life back undercontrol and that you need there help. there is also no interest rate. i do that with my parents. i borrowed some money to by my car. and im slowly paying them down. makes me happy that i have a car. and makes them happy that im paying it down. even if its slow going. and its also makes them happy to see that i can take car of myself and shows them im growing up and being more mature and such.

thats my little tid bit of the day.

i think its time to start looking for a pedal bike to get around :P

Always go to court. I mean for every ticket. (maybe not photo radar because there are often no points on your DL with those) It's not just your right but I think an obligation and civic duty. By looking clean and smart in front of a Judge while providing honest explainations (not excuses) you can often save money if the "extra" fines are dropped. Good luck!

You are lucky in so many ways!
I got pulled over in my 71 camaro for expired stuff years ago several times(like you) the eye opener was a nice 3 day stay in the jail ! The ticket I did not pay showed up as a warrent on one of the pull overs. That is all it took for me. You will understand if it happens to ya.
Good part? Yeah the days in jail payed off ALL my tickets and I learned my lession. That huge Black man in the cell was scary(think the movies) but came to my defence when another guy came in and wanted my bunk.We mad the new guy sleep on the dirty floor

As my father would always say, "Sometimes you have to get burned before you learn"

I think he was right.

STOP! all of this debt you keep rolling over and obtaining is bad. Get another job whatever it may be. Yes the job market sucks but I know every Taco Bell and porta potty operator is hiring in my area. Who cares what it is it's INCOME. Sell the damn car, you're 19 you have many years to own a Fiero. Work, pay off all of your debt. Cut the credit cards, keep working two jobs, and SAVE your money. Go get an education it will be the best thing you ever did. Also since you have a girlfriend wrap your tool please for the love of god, don't throw children you can't afford into this mess. Consider it a learning experience on how not to get ahead in life and work towards getting to a point where you can have as many Fieros as you want.

My 2 cents

Curly

quote Originally posted by ALJR: When I was 19, I was astonished at how little my farther knew about life. When I was 25, I was amazed at how much my father learned in 6 years...

I hate that quote...it is way to simplistic and usually wrong.

If it is true for a person...then I feel sorry for that person.

Back on topic...i'll be simplistic...it sounds like you deserved it. Get over it and don't make the same mistake again. ( this is coming from a person who loathes cops with a passion )

quote Originally posted by Hockaday: it is way to simplistic and usually wrong.

Hows that?
Would it be more accurate if I said 35 instead of 25?

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Just my 2 cents:

It doesn't sound like he's blaming the cops or anyone else for his misfortune or bad decisions. Sounds like he thinks the cops were nice to him and is very grateful for the help of his girlfriend. He made some mistakes. Who hasn't?

Anyway, good luck with all this. Glad to hear you are no longer ridin' dirty.

You do realize you can sell blood plasma / sperm for more than $150 a week? :P

quote Originally posted by aaronkoch: You do realize you can sell blood plasma / sperm for more than $150 a week? :P

Can I sell other people's blood?

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quote Originally posted by aaronkoch: You do realize you can sell blood plasma / sperm for more than $150 a week? :P

Do you just mix it together and take it in?

Aaron just takes it. (Sorry Aaron. Actually, I would consider you more of a "giver". And me, lately, I have been a "taker".)

Reminds me of one of my favorites...

Tony