Why would someone think that they can paint a car with a roller? I found this car on ebay and lots of good on the car until you read where
" When I purchased the car, the paint was shot. Clear coat peeling badly. I checked the Fiero forums for ideas with paint and noticed a few of them had chosen to roll their cars with rustoleum. I gave it a shot, turned out pretty nice (see pictures). "
I have seen the pictures and it looks bad.....
If this is your car sorry to offend you, you would have been better off at macco. And what forum told you to do this???
How does it look bad? With some buffing I think it would look great. Roller paint jobs have a potential if you can put the time and effort into them. You can pay $3-400 for a crappy Maaco paint job, or roll it on yourself for under $75 with the cost of materials included. Of course it wont be a show quality finish but neither will be any paint job for under $3000. I plan on trying it myself sometime when I restore my car to that point.
I've heard of it being done before. If you really know what your doing and have the right paint it could be done. This was religion at a garge me and some buddys used to hang out at in highschool. The things these guys could do with a box full of spray paint to a car was amazing almost show quality work. I even had a friend who hand painted his del sol with that rustolium paint that has thay "dented" look when it drys and cures the car looked gorgeous.
And i wouldn't say that car looks bad at all. It looks kind of like a stock paint job before they started clear-coating cars.
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01:47 PM
BOBBY D Member
Posts: 477 From: mentor, ohio, USA Registered: Feb 2011
Rustoleum jobs that are rittled with orange peel are like that because they used acetone to thin it, use mineral spirits and you can get a mirror shine without even buffing it, then when your buff it most people will argue that theres no way to rolled your paint on.
If done correctly the rustoleum roll on jobs look great, now why anyone would spray it on is beyond me, if your going to spray decent automotive paint is pretty cheap atleast here in phoenix only marginally more then the rustoleum.
Yea, I have seen rolled on paint jobs before, and they look great for the low cost. People really need to start to accepting things. An attitude such as "That will NEVER work!", when proof is right in front of your eyes, is just selfish.
just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. The longevity of the paint is one issue, and the sheer time to sand and buff between coats to approximate even a factory job let alone show car finish. There are always telltale signs a car has been rolled and even sanded buffed to a finish. If you put a Rustolleum avenger next to a properly painted car it will show its true colors so to speak even if it takes a bit of looking to find. Do i have a problem with this idea not really if its done right and its all you can afford at the time fine, but you better find a cheaper hobby if you really don't have the means to restore a car properly, and yes its better then a beat down 20+ year old factory job, but if you listen to some on here they think its better then having a real spray job. The devil is in the details and rustolleum is a wiley devil full of tricks.
just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. The longevity of the paint is one issue, and the sheer time to sand and buff between coats to approximate even a factory job let alone show car finish. There are always telltale signs a car has been rolled and even sanded buffed to a finish. If you put a Rustolleum avenger next to a properly painted car it will show its true colors so to speak even if it takes a bit of looking to find. Do i have a problem with this idea not really if its done right and its all you can afford at the time fine, but you better find a cheaper hobby if you really don't have the means to restore a car properly, and yes its better then a beat down 20+ year old factory job, but if you listen to some on here they think its better then having a real spray job. The devil is in the details and rustolleum is a wiley devil full of tricks.
As said above. it will never be as good as a fresh booth spray job but it will get you by. but dont expect to be winning any shows from it.
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02:55 PM
Rick 88 Member
Posts: 3914 From: El Paso, TX. Registered: Aug 2001
One reason.... roll on paint... <$100.... good paint job... $3000. Now add in the value of the car, maybe $3000 (at most), why would you spend double the value on the car to make it look nice, unless you have money to burn.
Like i said its better then a 20+ year old factory paint job, but if you go through the trouble to get it done right, and do like some of us have is to get assessed insurance.
I'm not quite sure if you've heard, but we're in a pretty deep recession. Many people don't have the resources right now to spend a few thousand on a quality paint job. The simple solution here is, if you don't like it, move on. The car is sitting at just a shade over $1000 right now, most Fieros for that price will be badly faded.
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06:54 PM
jaskispyder Member
Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
Like I said before there's no orange peel if you use mineral spirits, and why the comments about longevity when there's plenty of pictures of years old rustoleum jobs that still look the same as the day they were finished? The paint lasts as long as any other paint.
Rolling paint on cars is nothing new. I have done it. I don't think that people should consider it some sort of new fad though.
Early on in automobile production many products were made, paint kits of sorts, that allowed you to roll paint onto your car. They were advertised at the cheap and efficient way to change the colors of your car. Additionally, if you have ever lived in a country that has very strict automobile laws, like Japan, you would know that many owners also roll on paint when problems like a fender bender occur or a replacement panel is needed. I know that for some time in Japan you could not have a vehicle that was more than one color (if you replaced panels, you had to ensure they were painted the color of the car). To avoid inspection problems, people would simple roll paint onto the panels, as not everyone can afford a good paint job.
However, you should not bash it because it's not a professionally-applied sprayed on job. The roll on jobs can come out very well - some better than anything that Maaco can produce. There is however only one very important downside and that is there is no UV protectant obviously unlike normal automotive paints. Otherwise though the application preparation steps, prep work, and finish work is no different than a normal paint job, not to mention you can complete a whole car for under $100 (many online forums call it the "$50 paint job", but in reality you're going to spend a bit more than that, but shouldn't spend over $100).
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06:26 AM
Hockaday Member
Posts: 2165 From: Clifton Park, New York, The States. Registered: Sep 2009
I know a few people that rolled theirs. A friend of mine started his but ran out of time because he got a new job. It was looking great though. It has potential if you know what you're doing!
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10:05 AM
BOBBY D Member
Posts: 477 From: mentor, ohio, USA Registered: Feb 2011
Ok so everything I have read and heard is that it will be ok. But it will take a ton of time. If I get the car my next question will be how do you fix the orange peel. Sand and buff, sanf and buff.
use a thinner in the paint, and roll multiple coats and sand or wet sand after you get enough color built up usually when the color looks solid. Then paint apply a few more coats and repeat. Let the paint dry completely at least 24 to 48 hrs give or take humidity and temperature it may be as little as 8 to 10 hrs depending on thickness of the paint. Wet sand, and then use a polishing compound and buff out to a finish I'm not sure if there is a rustoleum roll on clear though. The only downside is longevity due to UV, salt and environmental damage such as bird droppings and other man made atmospheric contaminants, if the car is kept out in the elements and driven year round which is what i was referring to previously. It beats a crappy looking 20 year old paint job, just don't expect it to look like a show car paint when up against other cars on a show field. There is a reason why cars do not have roller jobs from the factory and show cars don't either. Time skill and material all contribute to a quality job and yes that includes the rustoleum paint job to some extent but the material has its limits. If you want a better looking paint job then the custom clear peel jobs most Fiero's seem to come with these days. All i'm saying is keep expectations realistic.
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12:17 PM
rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
Orange peel on a sprayed car comes from too thick material or wrong air pressure.
Ill venture to say what looks like orange peel on a roller paint job is they didnt use the right texture roller. Ive seen house painters use rollers with enamel in homes that was a slick and shiny as glass.
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