Now things are geting realy neat in the world of Vehicles as far as customizing with the like of vynil vehicle wrap you can get a custom look for about 2000 bucks so what do you think will it ever replace the custom paint job?

I have seen some great wrap jobs. I just think that this one has to go.

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I feel it is going to get realy big in the next 10 years I am trying to git into it been realy looking into it the last few weeks

Prowler in my neighborhood...

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that is cool now some one just has to do a custom wrap on a fiero

quote Originally posted by engine man: that is cool now some one just has to do a custom wrap on a fiero

My 87 GT will be wrapped. Will look similar to the Lancia Martini Group B (I miss the killer B's) rally car graphics. I plan to rally my Fiero Finally decided on what to do with it

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i am considering a wrap..ive got a buddy in the sign business talking me into it,we have done many for store chains....i want something custom and this would be easier than what i usually do when i want a custom job...way easier and less time

I think you are going to see the finish get better and better due to the demand going up they will demand it looks better than the other guys

I would try it!

I've been in the large format printing industry for nearly 10 years - and while I don't directly work with vehicle wraps (we are primarily and indoor/POP/Trade Show display company), I have been continually impressed with the advancements in the materials, printing, and applications of vehicle wraps. Some of them are simply insane.

As to anyone questioning "should I" - ask yourself how you're using your car, and how long you want to keep that look. Most wraps are really only good for 3-6 years outside... a quality bc/cc paintjob will outlast and outperform it for many more years to come. But if you can write it off for advertising, or just like the idea (and can afford it) - changing the look every 3-5 years could be a blast!

If you do decide it's for you... do some research and get some real-world references before paying "the shop around the corner" to wrap your beloved car!

I really am looking forward to seeing some cool wrapped Fieros in the near future!

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Well the first thing i am going to have wrapped is my jet boat

quote Originally posted by Tony Kania: I have seen some great wrap jobs. I just think that this one has to go.

"Officer the truck just came out off no ware i didn't see it, all i remember was the crash."

they do look nice but it still looks like a wrap and not paint the depth and luster isn't there. I'm sure someone will come up with something that looks better and lasts longer.

quote Originally posted by agrabo85fiero: "Officer the truck just came out off no ware i didn't see it, all i remember was the crash."

Thanks for making me laugh. I kind of needed it today.

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i picked up a flier this week on this was mainly vans done but it seemed to be around the same price as a paint job well said from $2000AU and a paint job here is worth about $6000AU.

Seems being vinyl it would be added rust protection for metal cars.

you can get a car wrapped for about $2000 in the USA and about the same for a paint job but with the wrap you can have any art work on it you like real looking flames ,dragons,women , you name it and you can have it but with the paint you can have it but the price will go up and up fast with the more art work

quote Originally posted by engine man: you can get a car wrapped for about $2000 in the USA and about the same for a paint job but with the wrap you can have any art work on it you like real looking flames ,dragons,women , you name it and you can have it but with the paint you can have it but the price will go up and up fast with the more art work

Be aware that like paint jobs - vehicle wraps "start" at $2k. I've seen some (like the prowler that Blake posted) - that are going to run you more like $4-6k. Also, the cost of many wraps (especially at $2k) will not likely include any wild custom graphic design work (hey... we don't work for free either ).

but i bet in paint it would be 10 to 12 G

quote Originally posted by engine man: but i bet in paint it would be 10 to 12 G

Absolutely. But it would also last a lot longer in the sunlight.

The other thing I wanted to note, is that a vinyl wrap may help with rust resistance on a metal car... but if improperly installed, it could also potentially be worse (creating pockets for moisture to gather & sit, instead of draining away as intended or the installer accidentally cutting through the paint surface when trimming panel segments). Just another reason to be sure that your producer & installer is well qualified.

I have installed and removed many wraps, and im most cases, it will protect you paint. Peel it off and its just like the day you applied it. Im not sure about rust protection....

Hey Rob- Would you be willing to help me with some design work on my fiero wrap? I have the images already, just need someone to lay em out for me.

Blake

Some of the Team Rally cars use full and partial wraps. They all look pretty cool from a distance, but when you get close they look pretty grainy.

quote Originally posted by 85sliverGT: Hey Rob- Would you be willing to help me with some design work on my fiero wrap? I have the images already, just need someone to lay em out for me. Blake

Blake ~ I think that'd be a cool project. I'm pretty short on time these days ~ so as long as you're not in a big rush, I'd definitely see what I can do to help.

Are you planning on wrapping the entire car?

quote Originally posted by engine man: Well the first thing i am going to have wrapped is my jet boat

me too,any body priced the stuff to paint a big boat lately...ive got a 24 ft stilletto (like a formula)... holy **** it will take a lot of paint

You need to use a higher grade vinyl for marine applications.

I was in the sign industry for 15 years. The wrapped prowler was done by a company called SkinzWraps you should look at their website http://picasaweb.google.com/skinzwraps they have some great examples of wraps on all kinds of vehicles. I attended a seminar given by the owner of SkinzWraps.

As for the earlier comment about graininess of the images. It all depends on the resolution of graphics, today's large format printers can print really high quality artwork

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what is the best printer for the money on the low end 60 inch printers that will do a good job

quote Originally posted by newf: As for the earlier comment about graininess of the images. It all depends on the resolution of graphics, today's large format printers can print really high quality artwork

We serviced a Mazda RX8 for Team Mazda at Tall Pines 2008. Their rep said it was a $5000 wrap. We all commented that it looked great for the rally pictures but looked like crap when you were up close. Anyway there were a few tears from him when they rolled it.

quote Originally posted by engine man: what is the best printer for the money on the low end 60 inch printers that will do a good job

That's a fairly broad question - and one that sometimes relies on "personal preference"

You'll need a solvent-based printer for the best long term outdoor durability. If you've got $20k to spend, then a new & fully loaded Epson (wish I could afford a GS) would be idea... but otherwise I've seen used Mimaki's, HP's & others go for reasonable money.

What's your budget?

If you have 3.5-5k laying around, I guess it's okay. That's the cost for those with Lamborghini's in CA and maybe in other states. IMO it would need to come way down for me--- maybe $700, but I'd rater opt for a primer/paint job and call it a day.





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"I drive modified Fieros- anything less would be uncivilized."

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We used a 60" Mimaki where I worked, had great quality for graphics IMO. Like I said it all depends on the file you are using and what resolution you want to print. Most advertising applications are not meant to be viewed super close anyways.

If it is for a personal vehicle the install time will go up because you need to be much more particular laying the vinyl down and the graphics need to be laid out correctly.

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so if i was to go get the raw vinyl at "some shop", what is the Mil. spec that you would use?
would it be the same as the vinyl lettering and graphics?
could I just go to walmart and say give me X amount of vinyl and go at it at home?

What do you ask for?

quote Originally posted by revin: so if i was to go get the raw vinyl at "some shop", what is the Mil. spec that you would use? would it be the same as the vinyl lettering and graphics? could I just go to walmart and say give me X amount of vinyl and go at it at home? What do you ask for?

If you're just looking for solids (not printable media) - you'll want to visit a local sign shop supplier. For solid colors, you're actually for the film that they would normally use for cutters (to do cut lettering). As an example, here's one supplier's list: http://www.signwarehouse.com/c-vinyl-supplies.html You'll notice that they list various estimated lifespans & finishes (such as 3 yr Matte). You may also see some listed as Cast or Cal (short for calendered). Cast is generally better & found to more premium products, whereas Calendered is better for cheaper & shorter term use. If you're really curious as to what they mean & why... read this.

If they ask (they probably won't) - just tell them you're looking at starting a shop & you should have no problem getting standard "shop" prices.

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thanks Rob, I knew you would know.

http://www.foilacar.com/start.php


other options:

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Joey and I were looking into both options for her Fiero, but we concluded that we would have more control of the finished product with real paint. Also, the glow factor is definitely better with paint.
Dave

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If you are looking for vynyl in colors with no graphics you could try this Ebay store.
http://stores.shop.ebay.com...xpress__W0QQ_armrsZ1
I have purchased some of their vinyl in solid gloss black and carbon and I liked what I got. they also sell application accessories and offer lots of info.

Let me just add that you really need someone who is a pro at laying down vinyl when doing a vehicle the compound curves and cuts really take some experience to get good at. Especially if just using premium cast vinyl.
My suggestion would be to use a product specifically designed for vehicle wraps, for example we used Avery Easy Apply RS which is an awesome product. I'm sure other manufacturers sell compatible vinyls that is just the one I have experience with. I believe this Vinyl comes in white, red, and black.

http://www.na.averygraphics.com/AvGrNA_UC.asp

Oh... and remember you need the vinyl and a laminate on top of that which gives you either a gloss or flat finish.

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i would do solid chrome