How many years (or months) have you been driving a Fiero as a daily driver? What model is it? Is there anyone who has been driving one since the 80's? I also want to know why you keep driving one daily. It is a lot of work to keep a 25 year old car going everyday, year after year.
And of course..... let's see a picture
I'll go first..... I have been driving an '87 GT 5sp as a daily driver since the fall of 1996. I have had 2 different cars in that time period. Currently I'm driving a blue one that I love. The reason I drive one daily is just because I enjoy driving these cars. The gas mileage is pretty good (27 to 28 mpg combined) and it works well for my 20 mile one way drive to work. I will admit that I use my 4x4 Suburban when we are expecting significant snow accumulations because we live in the middle of nowhere and they don't plow the roads for at least 8 to 12 hours after a storm. That happens about 3 times a year.
Anyone else?
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Posts: 12207 From: Jordan, MN Registered: Feb 2002
The one I had at the Tyler Show... Bought it in December of 2000, been driving it ever since except for an 18 month stint in 2005/2006 when I had sold it and bought it back...
1986 SE Frankencar.. Parts from every year.. No photo immediately available, as it is on my work PC.
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ltlfrari Member
Posts: 5356 From: Wake Forest,NC,USA Registered: Jan 2002
My first one was a n85, used it every day except while I did a DOHC swap, then every day after that until I wrecked it. #2 is also an 85 v6. I use it every day and I have an 88 that I sue if the 85 is off the road for any reason. I'd use the 88 all the time as well but it has an oil leak I need to fix before I sue it regularly.
I drove a Fiero basically daily for 9 months of the year (parked it during the winter) from 1997 through 2009. That 88 Formula coupe suffered a spun bearing this spring and I sold it to a local who is working to restore the car. 160K on the clock at that time.
I did replace it with an 88 Formula t-top in stellar condition and 87K miles. It is no daily driver however as it leaks a ton in the rain and with the lack of availability of new seals I doubt I am going to be able to fully stop that bad habit. So it is more of a weekend toy now.
First pic is my old Formula. I have to admit I really miss it and at times think I should have kept it and held onto it. It looks better in pics than it did in person, it had original paint and was a bit rough. Second pic is the t-top, it was painted in 2007 and looks really good in person. (Wheels are the same, they were new out of the original boxes a couple years ago, and although I prefer the black lace rims these are mint and I had to hold onto them. At least both cars are beechwood interior cars, so they sort of go ok)
The same one? I have been driving "a" Fiero for the last 10 years
When my SE destroyed the motor the first thing I did was find another Fiero to drive to work until I could get my GT back on the road. Now I'm driving it until my Vette is back on the road then I will drive the Vette and the Fiero.
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katore8105 Member
Posts: 1519 From: Upstate NY US Registered: Dec 2009
I drove my first white 88 GT 5-speed daily for about 4 years. When I found my dream yellow 88 GT 5-speed, the white one was sold, and I drove my yellow one for 11 years. My daily commute is about 36 miles total 5 days a week plus what ever I do on weekends. With normal maintenance my yellow GT was very reliable, and got between 26 to 28 mpg regular as clockwork.
When I purchased my next dream Fiero, a red 88 Mera 5-speed, the yellow GT went to a great new home, and is still running fine. While I don't drive the Mera daily, it gets regularly driven about 3 to 4 days a week. This will probably be my last Fiero as I intend to keep it till the wheels fall off. Then I will put them back on and keep driving!
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kwagner Member
Posts: 4258 From: Pittsburgh, PA Registered: Apr 2005
My red 86 gt auto was my daily driver from the summer of 2005 until this past summer, when I got a house within walking distance of where I work. Now it's getting a little rest
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Cheever3000 Member
Posts: 12400 From: The Man from Tallahassee Registered: Aug 2001
Hardly ever. Every time I have tried, they let me down. Fieros are money pits, from my experience. That's why I have given up and put up for sale the one I have now. It will be my last, but only because I lack the expertise, the money, and the time & energy to put into them. I'm not cut out to be a collector-car owner.
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This isn't me, but this fine gentleman has had his '84 since new and last time I checked was still driving it. I think he's a member of the Northern Illinois Fiero Club, but not sure if he's a member.
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johnyrottin Member
Posts: 5507 From: Northwest Florida Registered: Oct 2007
I started driving Fieros in 85...bumperpad 85 2M4 manual in silver. Loved that little clunker. Been driving them ever since in various different years and bodystyles. I drive them because they are comfortable and I loved the car back then as I do now. I had a couple of hiatuses when I was stationed over in Japan and England but came right back when I was posted in teh USA! I haven't found a more comfortable ride even in my wifes handle, and in the 4.9L form...thump!$50k BMW!!! I just dig the way they look, feek, smell, and in the 4.9L form...thump!
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86_fiero_gt_92 Member
Posts: 452 From: toronto, ontario, canada Registered: Nov 2007
drove mine from april 2010 till aug 2010, thats when i decided that i missed the power of my old GTP so i decided to do the only sensible thing and so a 3800sc swap lol
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thumper_64735 Member
Posts: 704 From: Lebanon, MO, USA Registered: Sep 2006
I drove my 87 Notchie base from Oct 06 till Jan 09 when it developed a lower end knock. I still drove it on shrot trips up until about 3 months ago. I have been using an 85 Notchie base that I paid 400.00 for as my daily driver, logging around 150 miles a day since Dec 09. Both are 4cyl 5spd and besides the 87 needing the motor replaced, all I have had to do to either one is basic maint and repair. A nice bonus, they both get better mileage than my wife's Lexus or Cavalier, lol
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solotwo Member
Posts: 5379 From: Grand Rapids, MI. USA Registered: Jun 2002
I bought my 88 coupe from Stan Rakovan in Pittsburgh in the fall of 2001. It was a parts car and needed some work. No problem, I figured I had time as it was purchased as a hobby vehicle. I had the solo 2 car, a company car( demo) and now the Fiero. Well in December of the same year the new owner of the dealership let the old employees go. So I lost my demo. From that point on I drove the Fiero( we sold the solo 2 car( a CRXSi). It was the only car I had. The wife has her car and I have mine. So from January 2002 when I found employment again until April of this year( I have a demo again) I drove the Fiero basically everyday, summer, winter, fall, spring. I leaned how to drive it in West Michigan winters and did better than most people in this town, yes even the idiots in their 4X4s.
As a parts car it was not the best looking, and still is in the same condition. I am now going to learn to do fiberglass patching. The car had 86K when I bought it and now has 161K. It was a Texas car and I dont know how long it was in Pittsburgh. It doesnt have very much rust. Just this fall, a couple of small patches popped up on both sides of the trunk. Of course under the battery was bad. It no longer has a liquid battery in it.
So I will do a search to find the picture of it that was posted by snapperhead when we went to the Burn Survivors car show.
Steve W. NE Grand Rapids, MI 88 Coupe
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Primaris Member
Posts: 550 From: Oak Grove, KY USA Registered: Aug 2001
Bought August 3rd 2010, blew the water pump 2 weeks later.. Back on the road within a few days, daily drove for 2 months till the first week of October and wrecked it.. Currently rebuilding and getting it roadworthy.
Bought August 3rd 2010, blew the water pump 2 weeks later.. Back on the road within a few days, daily drove for 2 months till the first week of October and wrecked it.. It gave me a decent amount of issues when daily driving it. Currently rebuilding and getting it roadworthy.
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I used mine as a daily driver for about 4 years and it was actually quite reliable i just decided to fix it up as it was looking quite poor for a car with 26k on clock.
I use mine as a DD all year round. I bought it in December of 08 and started driving it daily in March of 09. It's not completely fair because I have a 2nd car that is strictly for summer use. I think I've put on 8k since I got it.
*It's an 86 GT.
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Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11897 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
Purchased it in October 1994, used as a DD until October 1995, then used it again as a DD from October 2009. I don't have another car now but then I use the bicycle to go to work.
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CoolBlue87GT Member
Posts: 8521 From: Punta Gorda, Florida, USA Registered: Apr 2001
Mine is an 87 GT been using it for over a year as my DD from sept of 09 till just a few months ago I was driving over 100 miles a day without any problems. Now I drive 20 a day with out worry. I bought my Fiero to save the milage off my new 09 G8 GT.
how I bought it.
and now
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I have a 1987 SE 2.8 5spd getrag. It has been my daily driver since the summer of 2004. That is when it got the old 2.8 rebuilt. Before I knew about PFF and all the engine swaps.
Here is how it was when I first got it.
Here is how it looks right now. door and mirror already fixed lol.
Here is how I hope it will look after I lower it and tint the windows. This pic was taken before I added that lower piece to the front and driving lights.
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Kelvin Vivian Member
Posts: 1233 From: San Jose, CA, USA Registered: Jan 2001
1987 SE Medium Red Metallic/Grey 5 spd Isuzu, 4 cyl Iron Duke power trunk release, manual windows, manual locks, manual mirrors, AC, sunroof, performance sound (subwoofer), originally came with spoiler (but pictured below with wingless decklid), no cruise control
I've been daily driving this car for about a year, currently has about 213,000+ miles on original iron duke motor. Items that I have replaced throughout the year include - front ball joints, tires, rear struts, front shocks, heater hoses in front compartment, smog canister/hoses, spark plugs/wires, recharged K&N air filter). I commute in the car because I'm stuck in the 80s!
------------------ 88 GT T-Top 5-spd #338 of 1252 87 SE 4-cyl 5-spd sunroof, spoiler, performance sound 85 2M4 base coupe T-Top 5-spd, rackless decklid, 15-in 88 GT rims, aero-conversion
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Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
My '88 Formula was my daily driver from 2001 until about 2008 when I bought my 2000 Trans Am. I've been driving the TA primarily, but I'm going to be pressing the Fiero back into more regular duty to keep the miles from racking up so fast on the TA. The Fiero has about 180k miles, so I'm not worried about driving it.
I'll have to add a pic later.
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fierosound Member
Posts: 15253 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
My 87 GT was a year round summer/winter daily driver from 1990 - 2001. After rebuilding 3.4 engine and repainting in 2001, it became a "summer only" car.
I started with a black formula back in 2005, it was my second car, first one the family got me wasn't a good car and didn't last long. The formula lasted me for about a year when a guy pulled out in front of me and cause a low speed t-boneing, the car got totaled out and I went and got me a 88 coupe automatic with t tops and no options but ac. It lasted me almost a year when the water pump started to go, so I started driving the formula again, missing a front fascia this time That lasted a year or so long enough to get the 3800sc swap in the coupe going well enough to DD 35miles each way to work. Did that one summer without ac, wasn't the funnest to be in slacks and tall socks and two shirts in a car with no ac with the humidity and heat we get here in the summer. That winter I picked up another 88 coupe this time a 5 speed with a 3100 swapped into it, drove it for a week and had a crank position sensor and twisted pair die on me. I was back to borrowing family cars for a few months, then picked myself up an Audi and DD'd it for about a year, all the while converting my auto 88 coupe to a manual 88 gt with the series 3 3800. Then I traded the Audi for another 88 formula with a 3800sc swap and a few other fieros. So now I alternate between my 5 speed gt and the auto formula.
I will try and get pictures of the gt now that it is painted white and get some pictures of the formula.
Had three Fieros, Used two of them as daily drivers for a few years. The current one (hopefully, not the last one ) started as a daily driver, till I stared working in the city again. Now, it's a weekend cruiser and ocassional 'errand' machine (till after we move)...
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fieroguru Member
Posts: 12603 From: Champaign, IL Registered: Aug 2003
Purchased my first Fiero in 1996 (86 Aero SE/V6/4 speed). It shared daily driver duty with an 86 Vette until Jan 1, 2000... that is when I picked up my first 88 4cyl/5 speed coupe and retired the 86 SE (eventually it became a trailer in 2005).
This first 88 underwent a full conversion to fastback GT inside/out, swapped in the 2.8/Isuzu, 4.5/Isuzu, 283 SBC/Isuzu, 350 carb/Isuzu, 350 Ramjet/Getrag and currently down for a LS4/F40 swap. I lost track of the # of miles put on that car, but 45K of them were with 350 power since 2003. Over the years, this car has had rests from its draily driver status (winters and during major swaps) and has been off the road almost 1 year since I pulled the SBC drivetrain in Dec 2009.
In 2005 another 88 4cyl/5 speed coupe joined the mix and was upgraded to a 2.8/Isuzu and then 4.3/4T60. This fiero had been my daily driver and winter beater for the last 3 years and I put 25K miles on it with the 4.3/4T60. This car recently sold.
An 88 Formula/Getrag replaced the 88 4.3/4T60 fiero and is waiting for the 4.3/F40 swap... so right now my 97 4x4 Siverado is the DD and wife is on me to get a fiero running. She got used to the 24-28 mpg ave on the 4.3/4T60 Fiero vs. the 15-17 on the truck.
Once I have a running Fiero again, it will be the primary DD. They are about the cheapest means of transportation for me (fuel mileage, insurance, taxes, etc) and I like the driving experience with them.
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fiamma Member
Posts: 258 From: san diego, ca Registered: Jun 2006
When I purchase my 87 GT in 1987, I used it as a daily drive for less than the first year of ownership. I bought a winter beater for the winter months, then drove the Fiero into the fall of the next year. I got another winter beater (84 Escort wagon) that spring and alternated cars. I found the Fiero lots of fun to drive, but impractical for running around. I kept the Fiero off the roads during the winter and used it as a fun car to drive up through today. I picked up a second Fiero in 96 an 88 GT and rotated driving the Fieros for fun, but by then I had a 92 Suzuki Sidekick as a daily driver and in 99, a Buick Regal GS. In 06 I got an 06 HHR as a daily driver and the Fieros are used as fun cars for road trips such as the Hot Rod Power Tour, Dells Run, Fierorama, Daytona and many other car shows. All my Fieros have over 130,000 miles on them and now it is just dumping $$ into them to keep them running.
Originally posted by R Runner: How many years (or months) have you been driving a Fiero as a daily driver? What model is it? Is there anyone who has been driving one since the 80's?
I have been driving my 1986 Fiero GT as a daily driver --- year round --- since May, 1986, when I bought it new.
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Originally posted by R Runner: I also want to know why you keep driving one daily. It is a lot of work to keep a 25 year old car going everyday, year after year.
It's always been a year-round daily driver for me for a number of reasons:
With dedicated snow tires, my Fiero handles the snow of Midwestern winters quite well, much better than any other car I've ever owned.
It's been reliable for me, leaving me stranded only twice in 24 years: once because of a failed ignition control module, and once because I carelessly installed an oversized, aftermarket Y-pipe too close to the coil (which the Y-pipe partially melted), but I think it inappropriate to blame the car for that boneheaded move on my part.
It's a convenient grocery-getter for me because of the shape of its rear trunk: Unlike the case with some hatchbacks I've owned, grocery bags don't tip over when stored in my Fiero's trunk.
My Fiero doesn't leak in automatic car washes, which is where I always go to get it washed in the winter, and sometimes even in decent weather (gasp!) when pressed for time.
In terms of the total cost to run it (including depreciation and insurance), my Fiero has become more economical. I've never particularly concerned myself about "economy," but at this point, my Fiero probably is as about as depreciated and cheap-to-insure as depreciated and cheap-to-insure gets, and therefore, probably about as economical now as economical gets.
Maybe I've been extraordinarily lucky with my Fiero, but because it has allowed me the luxury of not having to purchase a new car as my daily driver, I've probably saved enough money to buy a whole boatload of ignition control modules if I ever need a new one again.
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Originally posted by R Runner: And of course..... let's see a picture
My GT is the second one at the left:
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Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000: Here are some pics of todays drive!!!!