Important Notice: HUGE California Traffic Tickets Fines Effective 01/06/2010
The state of California is going for blood. I have been hearing that highway patrols are under pressure to issue a lot more tickets than last year with at least 30% increase in fines over 2009. Cash-straped California needs money, so pay close attention to the rules of the road while driving your Fiero! I'm not sure we're going slide by without of front license plate any more.
Traffic Tickets Fines (Effective 01/06/2010)
Violation Total Fine Due
VC 12814.6 $214
Failure to obey license provisions.
VC 14600(A) $214
Failure to notify DMV of address change within 10 days
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.
VC 16028(A) $796
Failure to provide evidence of financial responsibility (insurance)
Note: This fine may be reduced with proof of insurance on or after the violation date.
VC 21453(A) $436
Failure to stop at a red signal.
VC 22350 $214
VC 22349
Unsafe Speed, 1 to 15 miles over the limit.
VC 22350 $328
VC 22349
Unsafe Speed, 16 to 25 miles over the limit.
VC 22450 $214
Failure to stop at a stop sign.
VC 22454(A) $616
Passing a school bus with flashing red signals.
VC 23123(A) $148
Drive using wireless phone not hands free, First offense
VC 23123(A) $256
Drive using wireless phone not hands free, For each subsequent offense.
VC 23123.5(A) $148
Drive while wireless device to send, read or write text.
VC 23124(B) $148
Minor drive using wireless phone.
VC 22500(I) $976
Parking in a bus loading area.
VC 22507.8(A through C) $976
Violation of disabled parking provisions, first offense.
VC 22507.8(A through C) $1876
Violation of disabled parking provisions, second offense.
VC 26708(A) $178
Unlawful material on vehicle windows.
VC 27150(A and B) $178
Adequate muffler required
VC 27315(D and E) $148
Mandatory use of seat belts.
VC 27360(A and B) $436
Mandatory use of child passenger restraints
Note: This fine may be reduced by completing a court authorized child seat diversion program.
VC 27400 $178
Headsets/Earplugs over both ears.
VC 27803 (A through C) $178
Motorcycle safety helmet requirements.
VC 34506.3 $616
Commercial Driver - Log book violation
VC 4000(A) $256
No evidence of current registration.
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.
VC 4159 $178
Notify DMV of change of address within 10 days.
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.
VC 5200 $178
Display of license plates.
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.
VC 9400 (A through C) $178
Commercial weight fees due.
Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.
Thats horse sh*t how police do this. PA state trooprs have a blitz every few months in order to make some money when there low on funds mandadting that an officer has to pull someone over every 10 min. Its bullshit.
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Yeah 1 mph? Over? Should be like 5-15 mph over.. Also the fines appear to be reversed? How does going faster result in a cheaper fine? Guess if you're going to speed GO FAAAAASTT! I love California..
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87antuzzi Member
Posts: 11151 From: Surrounded by corn. Registered: Feb 2009
This is the one that gets me..... Passing a school bust is FAR more dangerous than many of the items listed. For sure more than parking in a bus loading area. The other fines are way too high in many cases, but passing a school bus should be at least 4 to 5 times what they has it listed as.
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Carcenomy Member
Posts: 1109 From: Invercargill, New Zealand Registered: Jan 2009
Ya gotta pay for all those social programs and illegal alien demands. Just as well have the scofflaws pay for them. Easy to avoid, don't break the rules of the road. Of course the courts will become clogged with traffic cases and you need more funding for more judges and courts.
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pro street dave Member
Posts: 288 From: ravenna ohio Registered: Dec 2006
How so horse crud? You agreed when you signed up for, took the test for, and was issued a drivers license to obey the laws that were written for public safety and motorized vehicle operation.
Your wanting to call BS on the fuzz enforcing the law that YOU agreed to obey? If you don't want to obey the laws that have been set, turn in your DL, sell the car and look into a bus pass. Newsflash, if they are ABLE to pull over a car every ten minets, what does that say - I'd think it be that there are quite a few that are breaking the law, and their contract with the state.
Possibly a few more tickets would get people to slow down, get & maintain insurance, all the while actually paying attention to I dunno.... DRIVING?
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Originally posted by flydeep:
It time for another revolution
Obedience to legal statutes agreed upon once the DL is signed kinda revolution? Somehow I don't think this is your intent.
Going broke by living in California due to the increasing fines imposed by the DMV is 100% avoidable - its called obeying the traffic laws.
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Gokart Mozart Member
Posts: 12143 From: Metro Detroit Registered: Mar 2003
This is the one that gets me..... Passing a school bust is FAR more dangerous than many of the items listed. For sure more than parking in a bus loading area. The other fines are way too high in many cases, but passing a school bus should be at least 4 to 5 times what they has it listed as.
the problem is not breaking the law but laws that server no purpose or serve to ensnare the public and therefore violating the public trust. Police exist to serve the public trust not view it as a source of revenue. Some traffic laws are so absurdly not needed and their existence only further serves to show their intent to ticket and harass the people they are sworn to protect. There is a reason for speed limits yes but did you ever go why on earth is this straight road in the middle of nowhere 25 miles and hour? its so they can ticket people for trying to get where then need to go at a reasonable speed instead of some contrived pieced of idiocy.
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09:24 AM
RACE Member
Posts: 4842 From: Des Moines IA Registered: Dec 2002
What is really crazy is with these fines, people still drive like crap. Just last week, I had to yield with the right of way because the car coming at me was texting and ran a stop sign.
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IMSA GT Member
Posts: 10268 From: California Registered: Aug 2007
What is really crazy is with these fines, people still drive like crap. Just last week, I had to yield with the right of way because the car coming at me was texting and ran a stop sign.
Exactly....like they say, it's only illegal if you get caught.
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Black Lotus Member
Posts: 340 From: Washington State USA Registered: Jan 2010
but did you ever go why on earth is this straight road in the middle of nowhere 25 miles and hour?
You got caught there too? Hahhaha! About 10 years ago was riding my motorcycle thru San Diego on I5 going 80 MPH in the slow lane and was the slowest person out there. Everybody else was at least 5-10 MPH faster. Wonder how the CHP deals with speeders?
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
How so horse crud? You agreed when you signed up for, took the test for, and was issued a drivers license to obey the laws that were written for public safety and motorized vehicle operation.
Your wanting to call BS on the fuzz enforcing the law that YOU agreed to obey?
In a perfect world I agree with you.
But in the real world the laws are written in an arbitrary and capricious manner and they are selectively enforced. For example in Texas we have many 6 lane divided highways where the speed limit is 45 or 50 mph when it should be at least 65 mph. Of course everybody drives at 65 mph and there you are one day minding your own business driving to wherever and suddenly you fall into a speed trap and BAM! you have a ticket. It has nothing to do with safety or protecting children in a school zone or anything except revenue generation.
On the contrary there are some 2 lane roads where the speed limit is 70 mph with driveways and blind corners it's ridiculous.
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Isolde Member
Posts: 2504 From: North Logan, Utah, USA Registered: May 2008
32 yrs living in So Cal. was 31 to many...Thank the lord for my quiet little town...we can cruise the streets with a hilborn injected hemi if we want...no smog laws...no stress...
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qwikgta Member
Posts: 4659 From: Virginia Beach, VA Registered: Jan 2001
Oh you can keep California..... Live there for a couple years when I was in the US Coast Guard and Stationed in Sacramento.. Crazy laws, crazy taxes, cops on every corner, it is a real mess..... If it were not such a beautiful place with some rather amazing countryside I would have really hated it.... My wife is from there and it seems like every time we talk to her father who still lives out there he is bitching about another fee or tax of crazy local ordinance that is making him crazy..... Yeah you can keep that state.... I have lived in a bunch of different places and never really seen that kind of reach into your pocket at every turn mentality... peace
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IMSA GT Member
Posts: 10268 From: California Registered: Aug 2007
This same crap was tried here in VA, the people told the state gov't to stick it, and they repealed the most of the fines. Power to the people!!!!!!!
The problem here with repealing anything is that the citizens are pu$$ies, hippies, or just nature freaks. They don't have the guts to vote and repeal anything. They just go with the flow. Believe me, I have attended many town meetings and very few people show up to repeal anything so the changes go on as planned.
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Rickady88GT Member
Posts: 10648 From: Central CA Registered: Dec 2002
IMHO I think CA will continue to go broke due in part to citizens tightening down on frivolous driving habits or after a (they) get ticketed or know someone who did. Once that happens... where will law makers make-up for lost revenues? Trust me- they will continue to find ways of gouging citizens (some way- some how) as in the case with the Bay Area bridges to which I make sure I don't cross over any more; that in-turn means lost of revenue for business I'd might have patronized.
As for me- I've been driving for nearly 34 yrs and I've only been ticketed once. The fine was $55 bucks or so for going over the speed limit by 10 mph and that was over 11 yrs ago and once last year for a modified exhaust and the fine was $179 bucks, but I removed the exhaust and paid the city $25 (processing fee). During which far more serious crimes were being committed while three of San Mateo's finest officers stood around.
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kyunderdawg Member
Posts: 4373 From: Bowling Green, KY. USA Registered: Aug 2008
Maybe disabled people are usually royally piss if they find you parked in their stalls and bus drivers.... well they have unions. They are always pissed, hehe. j/k
Seriously, I don't know, but then again going over 1 mph over the speed limit and receiving a ticket is absurd. IMO anything over 5 mph should be the norm, but I'm too.
Originally posted by madcurl: Seriously, I don't know, but then again going over 1 mph over the speed limit and receiving a ticket is absurd. IMO anything over 5 mph should be the norm, but I'm too.
The town I work in will write you a ticket for 1 MPH over the speed limit (30 mph). There are only a handful of businesses in the community, so the tax base is pretty low and they get a lot of revenue from creative enforcement of the law.
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Posts: 9105 From: Indy southside, IN Registered: Jul 2009
The town I work in will write you a ticket for 1 MPH over the speed limit (30 mph). There are only a handful of businesses in the community, so the tax base is pretty low and they get a lot of revenue from creative enforcement of the law.
Unless they tag you with the latest LIDAR speed detector, (and even then I still think it's possible) you can fight a ticket for 1 over the limit and win... The margin of error on RADAR/LIDAR units and vehicle speedometers is at least 1MPH.. sometimes up to 5 MPH combined margin of error...
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Mar 1st, 2010
kevin Member
Posts: 2722 From: Elk Grove, CA USA Registered: Jan 2000
Fellas, For all of you who have not lived here, understand me: This place sucks because of our liberal (sic) legislature. For the past 40 years, ever since the liberal partisans took over, a.k.a. unions strong arm tactics, the slant has been on "Pay me" or I'll organize a counter measure against your business whereby you will never vote against my union again! Yup, it is called extorsion. This tactic was practiced for years in Chagao-land politics. The driving fines, we are now aware of, are due to these 40+ years of one sided pay-offs to the muscle of the unions. The result is no cash for other essential municipal needs. The liberal view is that there is always money to be had from those are now aware of how things are really done.
Cordially, Kevin
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
The town I work in will write you a ticket for 1 MPH over the speed limit (30 mph). There are only a handful of businesses in the community, so the tax base is pretty low and they get a lot of revenue from creative enforcement of the law.
Please tell me your kidding, right? 1-mph over the speed limit??? What's the fine for going 1-mph over the posted speed? I'll make sure not to stop and get gas in that town, hehe.
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Hockaday Member
Posts: 2165 From: Clifton Park, New York, The States. Registered: Sep 2009
all towns will right you up for going 1mph over the limit.
Also if you have a nice looking car....heh gl not getting a ticket...and in ny if you go 40mph over the limit you are fined, loose license and then go to jail...
Still say women should not drive or be segrated into a bumper lane like they have at the bowling ally...-mindless rants how he's been hit or almost hit by 5 plus women-
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Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
Fellas, For all of you who have not lived here, understand me: This place sucks because of our liberal (sic) legislature. For the past 40 years, ever since the liberal partisans took over, a.k.a. unions strong arm tactics, the slant has been on "Pay me" or I'll organize a counter measure against your business whereby you will never vote against my union again! Yup, it is called extorsion. This tactic was practiced for years in Chagao-land politics. The driving fines, we are now aware of, are due to these 40+ years of one sided pay-offs to the muscle of the unions. The result is no cash for other essential municipal needs. The liberal view is that there is always money to be had from those are now aware of how things are really done.
Cordially, Kevin
looks like you have been listening to too much rightwing crapaganda It's no wonder states are scrambling to make ends meet after the "mismanagement" carried on by the GOP in the past decade and beyond. Ok enough, If you want to make this a partisan political issue please post it in OT where it belongs, thanks...I'll Be Back
Gray Davis where are you?
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Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
I am going to court Wednesday over a alleged 5 mph over violation. At first the cop tried to claim I was going 61 in a 45 and then changed it to 60 in a 55 zone AROUND A CURVE! Then he tried to say it wasn't a moving violation while I tried to correct him 3 times. He finally admitted it was moving violation. I recorded the incident on my iphone and will use it in my defense if need be. I have logic on my side in that I knew he was following me for a few miles before he stopped me and it would not make sense that I would break the speed limit knowing a cop was follwing me especially around a curve. I can't wait to question the cop under oath
My point is this kind of crap happens all over the country and its going to get worse as states look for ways to balance the budget WHILE they look for stupid ways to spend even more
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But in the real world the laws are written in an arbitrary and capricious manner and they are selectively enforced. For example in Texas we have many 6 lane divided highways where the speed limit is 45 or 50 mph when it should be at least 65 mph. Of course everybody drives at 65 mph and there you are one day minding your own business driving to wherever and suddenly you fall into a speed trap and BAM! you have a ticket. It has nothing to do with safety or protecting children in a school zone or anything except revenue generation.
On the contrary there are some 2 lane roads where the speed limit is 70 mph with driveways and blind corners it's ridiculous.
Lol,I've had alot of tickets before. I went through a several year period when I didn't care about tickets and just paid them as they came in. (suspended for points a few times). I've been busted for 29+ miles over the limit more than a few times,and know the fine by heart from the state ($360) $328 doesn't sound terrible,my first ticket when I was 15 was for 93 in a 55 and that bad boy was $360(and my first suspension when I didn't pay it). At those speeds they have the option of also giving you reckless driving which was in excess of $500 IIRC,somehow I never got it (was a killer on points also,3 i think-29+ over was only 2) Our fines might have changed in the past 6 years or so since my last ticket,but i'm betting they went up. Really doesn't sound like you guy's have it that bad.
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dn69141 Member
Posts: 448 From: Sidney Nebraska Registered: Feb 2010