I looked at a 85ish or whatever mr2 N/A before getting a fiero. They were boxy and the one i looked at was total crap for the money(they all seemed like taht). Add to the fact the 5spd trannys are notorious for popping out of 5th gear. I said no thanks.

quote Originally posted by 02greens10: Add to the fact the 5spd trannys are notorious for popping out of 5th gear.

LMAO! That made me think of when we moved to Utah. Our van broke down 300 miles from where we were headed. We loaded as much as we could in truck of the friend that was helping us move. We unhooked my VW Golf that was being towed by our van and loaded as much in it as we could. We then continued to drive. The VW was so weighted down that it would not stay in 5th. It kept popping out of gear within a minute or two of me putting it in gear. I drove holding it in gear for almost 6 hours...

Okay, back to your regularly scheduled topic.

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quote Originally posted by IMSA GT: I've been trying to tell the people that want Fiero over-the-roof scoops that they can mod the MR2 roof scoops and they will look great....but no one seems to want a Toyota part on their vehicle.

Bump on that!!!! I'd like to see someone put the mr2 "Toms scoops" on a fiero (preferably a fastback).

And in the heat of the topic, how much hp does a turbo gen 2 mr2 make? I mean, with relatively low work to have to be done to it?
Add: the decklid on gen2 mr2's looks like doing work on them would be a pain in the ass

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my buddy has an 89 i think. maybe a 91, idr. he bought it and is fixing it up from top to bottom to resell it. doing paint, repairs, everything, all on his lonesome. we dont get togetther very often, but when we do we spend the whole time talking about either my Fiero, his MR2, or comparing them lol. i have yet to see his in person tho, it was havign issues last time we got together

I wouldn't mind doing an MR-S (Gen3MR2) project some day. I like the similarities it shares with the Fiero. The MR-S is underpowered but it's chassis has a ton of potential. Many have started to swap in more powerful engines such as the 2zz from the 2000 era Celicas. I like how light they are for a modern day car (around 2000 Lbs.) which is featherweight by todays standards. There are some nice body kits and rebodies available for them too.

Someone flicked me off the other day in a stock looking second gen MR2....... Hater.

My brother's Mr2 and my Solstice....
I like his Toyota...actually has more cabin room than the Sol too (not trunk wise).

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I like the MR2 spyder. i was looking at one before i bought my eclipse but theres only room for onr kind of 2 seater in my heart..... nAt least until im rich and famous and roll around in ferrari's

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: I like the MR2 spyder. i was looking at one before i bought my eclipse but theres only room for onr kind of 2 seater in my heart..... nAt least until im rich and famous and roll around in ferrari's

Ha.

If I had my choice, this kit would be the one and at $2,999 it is not bad:

quote Originally posted by IMSA GT: If I had my choice, this kit would be the one and at $2,999 it is not bad:

vailside makes an even nicer one i think.. ill post pics up later. i almost bought one with a vailside kit on it.

A lotus Elise is a better choice than the latest mr2 although I love the
89 mr2 sc over the second gen mr2

ALL of the mid-engined cars around here are uncommon. There's fewer Fieros of course (my '87 is the ONLY Fiero that runs down where I am) but there's not many decent MR2s either. The two I know of that aren't the grandma spec naturally aspirated variety belong to my friends, so we cruise together as the only maniacs game for fun mid-engined cars

So yes, I believe there's a good chance we could all get along. After all, the MR2's out of production now too. It's the end of an era really... there just isn't an affordable, mass produced mid-engined car for the masses any more.

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quote Originally posted by IMSA GT: I've been trying to tell the people that want Fiero over-the-roof scoops that they can mod the MR2 roof scoops and they will look great....but no one seems to want a Toyota part on their vehicle.

The ones that go over the quarter panel windows look the best. I posted a thread about those.
//www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/079514.html

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: vailside makes an even nicer one i think.. ill post pics up later. i almost bought one with a vailside kit on it.

From above. This is th Veilside kit.

My wife drives a 3rd gen Spyder. I'm building my second Fiero, Yellowclone, more or less (in probably vain attempts) to show her up.

What does it take to get 400 horsepower in a 2nd gen mr2? Money wise, work wise, and reliability wise?

A bigger turbo and a boost controller

Realistically the 3S-GTE's weakness is the bottom end - if you were wanting bigger power than what bolt-ons will give, you'd need to go forged internals, which are readily available. Doing a nice rebuild locally would cost around 5k, so not expensive at all for properly good parts.

The catch is it's good horsepower, but at the end of the day, it's just a 2.0L four cylinder, build like so at your own peril. I'd rather the swap that's gaining in popularity - supercharged or turbocharged Camry quadcam V6.

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quote Originally posted by billpapps: I owned a 86 MR2 I hated it.. It was Bird sh.. Yellow and Slow as slug and handled like one to.. I just about payed someone to buy it. But each to there own I guess. At the sametime I owned a vega with a 350 4 speed. So I guess if you didnt know any better yo think the MR 2 was pretty fast.

Ya know Looking back on my post here. Pretty lame Yea I did own a that. Drove the Piss out of it for close to 3 years.
Thinking back on it. Deep down inside..I guess I didn't hate that MR so much after all.

Yeah that is true. Iv read that quadcam v6 swap is hard tho, not like a fiero swap.. But if ur able to make that much hp with that little 4 cyl does it rly matter that it's just a 2L 4 cyl? The engine bay looks like it would be sooo much harder to get to and work on than a fiero, can anyone second this?

quote Originally posted by Carcenomy: A bigger turbo and a boost controller Realistically the 3S-GTE's weakness is the bottom end - if you were wanting bigger power than what bolt-ons will give, you'd need to go forged internals, which are readily available. Doing a nice rebuild locally would cost around 5k, so not expensive at all for properly good parts. The catch is it's good horsepower, but at the end of the day, it's just a 2.0L four cylinder, build like so at your own peril. I'd rather the swap that's gaining in popularity - supercharged or turbocharged Camry quadcam V6.

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MR2's seem nice. A couple of problems though:

1) 1st gen MR2 looks boring, even more so than the bumperpad fiero

2) 3rd gen MR2 looks like it would be driven by a chick. plus it looks rather boring. It desperately needs a bodykit.

3) the only people I see driving them are the kind of people who drive civics with tailpipes you could stuff a water melon in and still have space to squeeze in a few bananas. Either that or the kind of people who think driving a pokemon-looking vehicle will make them seem younger and cooler...

aside from that, those MR2's with bodykits look pretty nice. almost, but not really, as nice as a Lotus Elise/Exige. Having a club open to all mid-engined cars wouldn't be a bad idea. The presence of the "lesser" cars would help in keeping the stuck-up people away

quote Originally posted by RedlinePlus: Here is couple of my fieros' stable mates.

You keep your woman in the garage with your cars? BTW, I love MR2's and would love to own one. Especially the most recent Spyder edition.

Jim

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I talked to a fashion magazine representative today in Harajuku Japan at my Photo-shoot about cars today. He said his first car was the 1st gen MR2. he said it was fun and all but didn't have power steering and was heavy. I went on to explain the rivalry between the Fiero and MR2 back in the states. He had no clue what a Fiero was lol. It was pretty cool talking cars with someone from Japan who could speak enough English and manage with my poor Japanese.

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quote Originally posted by Arns85GT: The X19 is a blast to drive. True, they are a bit underpowered compared to a Fiero, but, they are lighter and extremely nimble. If you can find one without rust, (they rust bad in Canada) you'll have a fun little go cart. The MR2 on the other hand does not have an excuse for it's limited power. It should have been given more out of the shute. They also are fun little car and I know a guy who loves his. They are not in the same league as Fieros though. It is sort of a little brother in the car world, although not a GM. Arn

Well it wasn't a fiat X-19 it was a Bertone so even better.
The Fiat X1/9 is a two-seater mid-engined sports car designed by Bertone and manufactured by Fiat from 1972-1982 and by Bertone from 1982-1989. ...

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quote Originally posted by RedlinePlus: It would be nice to welcome all midengines sport cars. The mix would be great. And some of the stories would be unbelievable. Here is couple of my fieros' stable mates.

I've always liked the Fiat X-1/9 Bertone. There's one in the junkyard right now with absolutely NO RUST on it. It's one of the later ones when it was no longer called a Fiat...

That grill should be black, shouldn't it?

The late 80s ones, like the 1987 was REALLY cool... there's just something REALLY unique about late 80s Italian design. I don't really know how to explain it because the interior is certainly very 80s, but it's kind of like trendy 80s.

I remember seeing another one in the junkyard many years ago (it was an 87), and it had this grey matrix looking fabric interior. Inset into the pattern were dashes of aqua, magenta, and off-white stripes. Sounds tacky as hell... but that's just because I can't really explain it, but it looked really cool.

The gauges of course looked like something you might expect from an 80s Ferrari. The later interiors kind of looked 80s Nissan-ish... but with a slightly classier look.

I've never driven one, but I've been in plenty of them (all in the junkyard) and I love the interior layout.

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1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

I own both, A fiero and and Mr2. I have an 87 Mr2 that is in excellent condition and is my daily driver. I love it, but not as fun to drive as My fiero. But extremely reliable, I havn't had to do anything to it mechanically, Ive owned it for over 3 years. Bought it from a guy who restored it. Its got about 150,000 miles on it and ive put the 50,000 from commuting to my job 80miles + a day since ive owned it.

quote Originally posted by The MaD cOw: Not a comparison thread. I was driving home this afternoon, and passed an old mr2... As he gave me a friendly wave, it got me thinking.... I'm just wondering whether any of you include the MR2 crowd at your local fiero meets and shows.

Hmmm... got bumped back up. Still doesn't look like many have done joint showings. Too bad. I think its a good idea

Great picture Falcon Fiero

Got a friend that has a Gen1 with a factory supercharger and he also has a Gen2 with the turbo and t-tops. When the boost comes in on the early car it is pretty nasty, the turbo is much smother and handles better. He also has an 88 GT T-Top 5 speed car. He likes his 2 seaters to go like hell.

"I remember seeing another one in the junkyard many years ago (it was an 87), and it had this grey matrix looking fabric interior. Inset into the pattern were dashes of aqua, magenta, and off-white stripes. Sounds tacky as hell... but that's just because I can't really explain it, but it looked really cool. "

I think it was an '88. Here is a pic from the brochure. Doesn't really show it well but you can see the threads.

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quote Originally posted by Australian: There is an X19 across the road from my work for sale i have been tempted to buy it but it would mean my only 4 seater would be sold to pay for it being a e30 cabrio.

I have a 76 Fiat spider 124 (very modifeid eng and bod ) and don't recomend getting X1/9, They have even less power than the Fiero and are a bummer to work on, especailly the electrics. Rust can be a major problem too. You do have to admit that both he fiero and mR2 owe to them as far as styling is concerned.

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I just saw a blue X1/9 in town here yesterday. I'd be worried about being able to find parts for them, they don't seem to have the cult-following our cars do, they were imported in small quantities, and most are much older than our cars.

You can parts here and there are other places

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I tried to get into an MR2 a couple of times. No dice. I don't fit. If I get my rear into the seat, I can't get my legs in far enough and under the steering wheel to close the door without doing some serious damage. If I wear able to get, the top might have to be off and goggles may be required.

I am 4'30.5" tall (yep, that's 6'6.5") and 200 pounds and I drive Fieros comfortably. I even have enough room to wear a hat! The MR2 looks nice, but like the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky, they don't fit. My two sons are about the same height, my youngest is slightly taller and my oldest, only slightly shorter and they both drive Fieros with equal comfort.

It seems that GM tailored the Fiero to accommodate a wider variety of body types (on the car and inside the car) in the '80's than other manufacturers considered.

Just my .02 for those of you with a "streched chassis."

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I am just immature enough to still call them "The Enemy". (MR2s, that is)

quote Originally posted by GMplastic: I tried to get into an MR2 a couple of times. No dice. I don't fit. If I get my rear into the seat, I can't get my legs in far enough and under the steering wheel to close the door without doing some serious damage. If I wear able to get, the top might have to be off and goggles may be required. I am 4'30.5" tall (yep, that's 6'6.5") and 200 pounds and I drive Fieros comfortably. I even have enough room to wear a hat! The MR2 looks nice, but like the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky, they don't fit. My two sons are about the same height, my youngest is slightly taller and my oldest, only slightly shorter and they both drive Fieros with equal comfort. It seems that GM tailored the Fiero to accommodate a wider variety of body types (on the car and inside the car) in the '80's than other manufacturers considered. Just my .02 for those of you with a "streched chassis."

I second this! I'm 6' 5", and I fit just fine into my Fiero! There is no way I fit into a Solstice (I did try). I never did plan on getting a MR2, but now I know for a fact i'm not getting one.

The solstice looks sexier than the MR2

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