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Black Beast Teardown/Build Thread by Back On Holiday
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I bought this 88GT 5 speed from CoryFiero last october and towed it home from Charleston, SC
He was having trans issues, so we began to tear it down:



Little guy helping me






Pontiackid86 playing with the rear light bulbs




Building the support frame for under the car:



Out it comes!




beginning to remove Y-Pipe and other parts to pull Trans apart:





Dirty inside trans, sprayed it down some to clean some of the gook off to get a better view




Clutch plate side that mates with the flywheel






Kids enjoying some driveway time, notice the big one in the back with the Grape Soda?


Swapping control arms and stuff over to a clean 88 cradle


Captain Morgan


'Morgan wannabe


Cradless






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wow BOH do you have a 4 cylinder laying around and want to make a trip to put it in my INDY!!!!!!! good stuff to watch

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Black widdow was better
p.s morgan holds his head up high and proud not lookin like hes about to take a dump......... trust me I drink enough of it to know the stance

haha bustin your stones andrew

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So I'll be up after Lilitiz with a 3800 to drop in my formula, right? You do all the work? I watch? I can be another pontiackid! =D Just a ...really.. tall and fat one. lol
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So I'll be up after Lilitiz with a 3800 to drop in my formula, right? You do all the work? I watch? I can be another pontiackid! =D Just a ...really.. tall and fat one. lol

now now give credit where credit is due. I stode on the cradle while he put the brake assembley on, and did some of the dismanteling of the old cradel.

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I stode on the cradle while he put the brake assembley on,


Dude... you cannot be serious.
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Dude... you cannot be serious.



Its called a joke. Somthing you need to learn how to do and point out more often.

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I stode on


I'm pretty sure thats what he is talking about.
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now now give credit where credit is due. I stode on the cradle while he put the brake assembley on, and did some of the dismanteling of the old cradel.


Dude, it was the entire control arm(s)!

I did put your ass to work 'bout time you gave back
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Originally posted by Fiero Thomas:

wow BOH do you have a 4 cylinder laying around and want to make a trip to put it in my INDY!!!!!!! good stuff to watch




 
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So I'll be up after Lilitiz with a 3800 to drop in my formula, right? You do all the work? I watch? I can be another pontiackid! =D Just a ...really.. tall and fat one. lol


Bah, I actually enjoy doing these things - problem is im poor!
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I'm picking up a lot of tips from you guys on how to pull the engines out of these beasts. Looks fairly simple....no, I don't mean easy as in anyone can do it, but you all make it look like nothing.
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Originally posted by Back On Holiday:

I bought this 88GT 5 speed from CoryFiero last october and towed it home from Charleston, SC
He was having trans issues, so we began to tear it down:



Little guy helping me






Pontiackid86 playing with the rear light bulbs




Building the support frame for under the car:



Out it comes!




beginning to remove Y-Pipe and other parts to pull Trans apart:





Dirty inside trans, sprayed it down some to clean some of the gook off to get a better view




Clutch plate side that mates with the flywheel






Kids enjoying some driveway time, notice the big one in the back with the Grape Soda?


Swapping control arms and stuff over to a clean 88 cradle


Captain Morgan


'Morgan wannabe


Cradless










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I have begun work on The Black Beast(this weekend!), plans changed AGAIN and I will be keeping her for awhile now!

Before:


After:











Heres some pics of the clutch fork, I removed the upper bushing, took pics of the lower also, cannot
locate an upper one for sale, heres a Fierostore screenshot I cant tell if they have a typo or what
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Engine pics, pulling some stuff apart





will the rust on the flywheel be ok to install the clutch right on or should I clean it off with some emery cloth or
do I have to get it cut/cleaned?





2 exhaust bolts broke off, 1 on each side...... could have been worse







Interesting Distributer

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Looks like my fork is the First Design.
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While he was doing this i was busy breaking my brake lines.
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That's what my Formula's distributor looks like. I need to be there for some of this rebuilding stuff. I needs me some knowledge!
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Originally posted by N3M3S1S:

That's what my Formula's distributor looks like. I need to be there for some of this rebuilding stuff. I needs me some knowledge!


Must be an 88 thing!
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Originally posted by Back On Holiday:


Must be an 88 thing!


No, its probably a newer one or a reman. My 88 had the "regular" Fiero distributor in it but I have a new one (that resembles the picture) waiting to get swapped in.

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Yes, that is a newer style distributor, so the whole unit must have been replaced previously. Looks to be a lot better in design then the original ones.
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Bump for pics from our ridiculously stupid but somehow very productive day of working on the 88's Mot-Zor.

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I'm gonna dump the pics I took with my phone here. We started just drinking some beer and chatting, occasionally looking at the motor and BOH would do something. Then out of nowhere after many beers, Tom just started going hard cleaning the motor. I started snapping a couple pics.

It started a little dirtier than this. Andrew broke out the electric drill to make it easier for little drunk Tommy.


Cleaned a bit of it already. Pre-power tool help.


Pics of us working! As opposed to the like, 10 pics of sitting around beer Andrew has. lol


It came out much nicer than our drunk selves expected.


Working on the other side.


The motor as it sat before we left.

Then we devoured about 5 pizzas, sobered up, and called it a night. All in all a cool day. BOH has a lot more. Really funny ones too. lol

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Lol 2 beer tom.
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Hey Andrew! Looking at some of the pictures, it looks as though there is some significant rusting back there. Are you going to pull the rear clip off and have a look?

That clutch looks fantastic by the way.

Andy

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Great minds think alike?

hehe.

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Great minds think alike?

hehe.



Ya' know......Fieros have been known to eat people that way...
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Originally posted by Hulki U. My-BFF:

Hey Andrew! Looking at some of the pictures, it looks as though there is some significant rusting back there. Are you going to pull the rear clip off and have a look?


Theres rust back there, no doubt

I posted pics here in OT cuz 95% of the stuff we did was not Fiero related on Saturday, FYI this link is NSFW
//www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/069055.html

Heres the Fiero Related pics of Tom cleaning the engine block








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Now you just gotta let me know when you go to put that bad boy back in! I'll try to bring a female this time. Yeah, I know, Tom counts as female. I'm talking a hot female.
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Now you just gotta let me know when you go to put that bad boy back in! I'll try to bring a female this time. Yeah, I know, Tom counts as female. I'm talking a hot female.


hoping this weekend, waiting on a box of parts, going to have to make a phone call tomorrow
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hoping this weekend, waiting on a box of parts, going to have to make a phone call tomorrow



And this weekend i will be relaxing on a dock with a fishing poll in one hand and a beer in another. Catching absoluteley nothing because its to damn cold. Never said i was going to go down to the dock sober.

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Lemme know dude. I'll bring the beer this time. And probably no Tom. I'm pretty sure he works.
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And this weekend i will be relaxing on a dock with a fishing poll in one hand and a beer in another. Catching absoluteley nothing because its to damn cold. Never said i was going to go down to the dock sober.


Those are some smart, voting fish.
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Those are some smart, voting fish.


 
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And this weekend i will be relaxing on a dock with a pole in one hand and a beer in another.
Catching a damn cold while my pants are around my ankles. Never said i was going to go down on myself sober.


Fixed that for you PK, hulki mines better


 
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Lemme know dude. I'll bring the beer this time. And probably no Tom. I'm pretty sure he works.


Its on this weekend, I guess no rick and tom? Heres PK's quote fixed for the tom aspect

 
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And this weekend i will be relaxing on a c*** with another poll in one hand and a beer in another. Catching absoluteley nothing
because he's wearing a condom. Never said i was going to go down on tom sober.


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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA. Damn dude. That sucks so bad. lol

And it looks like it's gonna be a quiet day if it's just me and you. lol. Actual.. Work.. May..Get.. Done?!
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA. Damn dude. That sucks so bad. lol

And it looks like it's gonna be a quiet day if it's just me and you. lol. Actual.. Work.. May..Get.. Done?!


I KNOW he didnt go fishing today, as it was POURING rain, so me wonders what he was doing in the mountains in a cabin

btw you didnt show, no biggie daredevil er nemesis the work I did wasnt party friendly
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Hey how come I wasn't invited. I'm not afraid of hard work. I embrace it with open arms.
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The black beast build thread turned into the My wife put the foot down and said I had to get rid of this fiero build thread
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thats not the stock distributor its a A-1 CARDONE Part # 301633
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looks like you guys are having fun hope you don't find any bonus parts when your done.
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It has been fun, almost finished (maybe this weekend?) the engine/trans/etc is sitting on the cradle just waiting to be bolted up pretty much.
I have pics ill post sometime
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