I am doing a 4.9 swap and had to do the valve covers, so this is what I did.
I have seen the swapped covers, but I like the ribs all the way across the cover. I also think the "dent" in the front cover works great under the deck lid hinge mount. So I left the covers were they are and painted one of them The other cover will need to come off and get painted next. I wanted to try this one first before I did them both. I cut a hole for the oil fill and used a Fiero oil fill cap. BUT in my style of "If there is a hard way to do it, find a harder way" I did not like the different oil viscosity rating on the Fiero cap so I disassembled the 4.9 cap and Fiero cap. I put the stock 4.9 threaded part of the cap back into the valve cover as a plug. Then I JB welded the TOP of the 4.9 cap to the BOTTOM of the Fiero cap. Now the 4.9 cap is on the Fiero cap in the back 4.9 valve cover.
Does that make sense?
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Posts: 12128 From: Champaign, IL Registered: Aug 2003
When I did my 4.5 install many years ago, I also kept the notched valve cover on the front... just fits perfect under the decklid hinge. However, I did not mess with moving the oil fill.
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craigsfiero2007 Member
Posts: 3979 From: Livermore, ME Registered: Aug 2007
This is the "Front cover" in its original position with the oil fill cap threads screwed into the valve cover. It only functions as a plug now. I did not want a fill cap on both covers. I plan to paint it with the cover so it will be totally disguised under the rear window.
The engine is on the cradle with a rear clip bolted to the cradle for ease of modding the mounts before it went in the car.
The tops of both oil fill caps. The one with white letters is the original V6 Fiero cap, the one on the right with yellow letters is the original 4.9 oil fill cap.
This is a view of the two caps turned over. The Fiero cap on the left has ribs that were used to glue the top of the cap to the "threads" at the bottom of the cap. The cap on the right is the hybrid 4.9 top and Fiero bottom JB welded together. The fit of the 4.9 to the Fiero cap is actually better now than they were stock.
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Looks similar to the ones that Watts did up for my 4.9 You have no idea how many people look into the engine bay and see Fiero V8 PFI and tell me how they never knew a Fiero came stock with a V8.
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Rickady88GT Member
Posts: 10648 From: Central CA Registered: Dec 2002
Wow nice job. I used a dremel tool to grind out all the little screw bosses and then filled the detents with a metal patch. Other than that, your rear cover looks a lot like my front cover
I painted the cover in three steps. First I primed with a high temp black, then metal flake silver like the stock Caddy cover, then taped the ribs off and last the high temp red. Take off the tape and there you go faux polished aluminum.
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Your doing a 4.9 swap??? (quickly bookmarking now) I LOVE what you did with the shortstar. I cant wait to see what you do with a 4.9.
PS Im assuming it's going in another car right? -T
COOL, Thanks. This is is a little different from others already. But it wont be anything like the S*. I just want to sell the car. So I am doing a 4.9 swap to help it move. I may hold on to it for a while first to get the V8 Fiero feel before I move on to another swap. The goal is a CA smog legal 4.9 4 speed auto with Corvette power steering in a Black 88GT with Beachwood Leather.
I have not decided on a build thread. But I did pist some pics during my research stage. I hope I can resist overdoing this project
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jackcastro Member
Posts: 620 From: WESTON,FL,USA Registered: Dec 2005
Hi. I am doing a 4.9 swap and need nice valve covers. Does anyone offer these valve covers for sale? Thanks.
There is no real need to buy them, they are very easy to make. If you have a V6 Fiero, take off the oil fill cap and look at the hole in the cover. There are no threds and the cap only has ears to hold it on the cover. All I did was dril a hole with a hole saw then a dremel tool to cut out the flat spots. You can use the stock V6 Fiero cap if you want, just make sure you use the right oil for the V8 and not the oil for the V6. Now if I were to do this again , I would fill the area around the hole with metal patch so the O ring will have a better seal. The fit is so close that I dont think I will have a problem.
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Mar 5th, 2008
Rickady88GT Member
Posts: 10648 From: Central CA Registered: Dec 2002
I love that you have the back half of a Fiero sitting in your yard to mock up your swap in.
MUCH easier than lifting the car and putting the drive train in and out several times. The front and rear fire walls are removable and the cradle is on blocks. So the only bolts holding the rear clip on are the two front hinge bolts. I can lift up the clip like a hatch to make adjustments or just remove the fire walls.
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Posts: 4242 From: Gresham, Oregon USA Registered: Mar 2006
What's that green stuff on the ground in all of your pictures? Ohh, wait a minute I think I remember what that stuff is, it's hidden under a bunch of white stuff around here! Sorry, it's been a long winter.
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Rickady88GT Member
Posts: 10648 From: Central CA Registered: Dec 2002
What's that green stuff on the ground in all of your pictures? Ohh, wait a minute I think I remember what that stuff is, it's hidden under a bunch of white stuff around here! Sorry, it's been a long winter.
Ha Ha I cant kill that stuff
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Mar 7th, 2008
jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
And thanks for the idea of what to do with that extra back end of a Fiero in my back yard.
The turned bypass and invisible fuel lines too I said I would not get to deep in this swap, but that just don't seem to be me. It just kept bugging me to see crap covering the valve cover. I used the 4 banger T stat housing and cut it up then welded it back together so it is at about the same angle as the stock V6 housing and aimed the hose barb towards the distributor just a tad. I guess I could use either a Fiero T stat or Caddy T stat, but I will keep the Caddy T stat. Then cut off the bypass barb, cut out about .5" and re-welded it towards the tranny. That way the hose does not go over the valve cover. I have the rear side fuel rail in the machine shop getting re-welded/silver soldered. I disassembled it to relocate the fuel supply and return so they don't go over the valve cover. The fuel lines will now run under the distributor and then back towards the fire wall out of view. I plan to run the fuel lines up the center of the fire wall from the the tank. I also changed the injector wire harness to hide it from view.
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Mar 8th, 2008
Rickady88GT Member
Posts: 10648 From: Central CA Registered: Dec 2002
Yes it is a standard HEI cap. One version has screws and the other has sring loaded clasps. Red should be an easy color to get from MSD or Mallory. You can get a cut to fit plug wire set in red, blue, black, or yellow and cut them for a perfect fit and allows custom routing of wires.
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Mar 12th, 2008
Rickady88GT Member
Posts: 10648 From: Central CA Registered: Dec 2002
Wow! I didn't think that a 4.9 could look that good. Where are all the wires??
The wire harness is not on it in the pics, BUT will not be much of an addition. I plan on doing a Rockcrawl Shaker Hood Scoop and hide the harness and extra electronics. But a remote purge and other tidbits can be remote mounted.
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Apr 15th, 2008
rdprowse Member
Posts: 176 From: Calif. livin in my Fiero Registered: May 2005
Thanks guys. I just got off the phone 10min ago and basically sold the engine. I may finish the swap and sell the entire car? I don't have pics of the new Red HEI "HOT" coil cap and red custom plug wires. I Got a new Red cap for an HEI SBC and adapted it to the 4.9 because it was cheaper than getting a Red cap for the 4.9 then a Hot coil for the cap. BUT I stopped working on the 4.9 because I got a "New Love" My 5.3 LS4 now has my attention.
I will post some pics of the Cap and Wires tomorrow.
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Rickady88GT Member
Posts: 10648 From: Central CA Registered: Dec 2002
Looks great... but for those of us that are challenged, we need a step by step "how to" with photos.
HaHa, I did not take pics of the process. I did not think I would even do anything to this engine. I just kept modifying everything I took off before I put it back on because I did not like the stock look.
I used a hole saw to drill out the big hole. Then I made a thick paper template off of the Fiero V6 valve cover to transfer the shape of the "ear slots" and cut them out with dremel tool and a very sharp rotory file. I wanted the fit snug so the hole was cut just smaller than the cap and I filed the hole out a little at a time til the cap fit in. The cap has a better fit on this cover than it did on the original cover.
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Apr 17th, 2008
rdprowse Member
Posts: 176 From: Calif. livin in my Fiero Registered: May 2005