quote Originally posted by 86GT3.4DOHC: Dont really see what the big hype about this car is, its just a plain old 86 SE, nothing special about it, and its pretty beat down, a $250 IMO, much better can be had for not too much more. Gold was 86 only, but not really that rare or special, the interior is just plain old brown, and in bad shape at that. Who knows what condition the engine is in, maybe there is a reason it was dumped. Not only that but you'll have to come up with rims to get it home. Not worth the trouble at all IMO, at least around here, you'll find much better very easily.

I always see the Ohio guys complaining about the lack of rust free cars "around here".

Who knows, the Colorado car may be junk or it may be rust free. If someone local can pick it up for free it might be worth it to them. I agree the engine is probably toast.

I think we're making a mistake if we automatically write off anything that's not an 88GT or Formula 5-speed with factory T-tops (I got bashed on another forum because my 88GT isn't a 5-speed ). The Fiero community will be awfully small if we junk all those gold 86s. This car may or may not be worth the hype but like I said, for someone local, with a little luck it might make a great project.

I found an abandoned 84. I will try to get some pics this weekend.

Last one I got from Columbus was rust free, as was the one before that from Penn. Another a few years back from here in town was as well, and so was the T-top I got here in town. And the red one I bought here in town, and the other red one from here in town. I might mention there are only 70000 people in the entire county.

The one from Mass was a rust-crap-hole though, and I had one other one from Ohio that was a little on the downside, but wasnt really in need of repair.

Im not advocating it because its an 86 or because its gold, Im advocating it because it has nothing to offer, and needs literally everything.

On that note, as long as you are aware of what you are getting into, and you know you can get others better for about the same price thats fine. I just know some new guys dont know how easy it can be to find one, or think it would be financially a good deal.

Sounds like a fun project, but personally I would take a decent fiero and use the time and money to make it into a great Fiero, rather than take this one, and spend the same amount of time and money to make it a 'average' Fiero. But if you want to do it for the challenge, there is nothing wrong with that, same reason people put 4cyls in Fieros to try and make power, there are far easier ways, but not everyone can do it.

Yup, would be challenge only. I've done two 4.9 swaps, I've built multiple hot rods over the decades, there are no mysteries left. The gratification comes from bringing one back from the dead.

quote Originally posted by 86GT3.4DOHC: Im not advocating it because its an 86 or because its gold, Im advocating it because it has nothing to offer, and needs literally everything.

Everyone knows "they only need three things to run".

Frizlefrak, long time, no read friend! In my most humble opinion, there are no dead cars, only those that need a little more work than others. But it would seem that many from this generation would rather go for the easy money and the quick return than put in the time and effort required to keep Hidalgo around for one more race. There are approximately 600 million cars worldwide. Of these, only 0.06% are Fieros.

So when I see a post by someone arguing the rarity or commonality of a particular color or year of Fiero, I want nothing more than to help them understand that every Fiero is rare and worth the effort.

It is true; a fool and his money are soon parted. But if Frizlefrak can take what used to be someone's dream car and make it his own, the void where his money once was will be insignificant at best.

Yea, my only point was that they aren't making anymore Fiero's, ever. And I want some Fiero's left 25 years from now, so i can still restore them when I'm 40. And they only made 370,168 Fiero's, you know how many have been parted or totaled since 1988? Quite a bit I'm guessing. Now that number may seem high, but then you look at how many Ford Taurus's they made for example, its a very small number. Half of the ford section in pull-a-part is Taurus's.

quote Originally posted by Brocephus: Everyone knows "they only need three things to run". Frizlefrak, long time, no read friend! In my most humble opinion, there are no dead cars, only those that need a little more work than others. But it would seem that many from this generation would rather go for the easy money and the quick return than put in the time and effort required to keep Hidalgo around for one more race. There are approximately 600 million cars worldwide. Of these, only 0.06% are Fieros. So when I see a post by someone arguing the rarity or commonality of a particular color or year of Fiero, I want nothing more than to help them understand that every Fiero is rare and worth the effort. It is true; a fool and his money are soon parted. But if Frizlefrak can take what used to be someone's dream car and make it his own, the void where his money once was will be insignificant at best.

Hey Brocephus, good to see you! ....yeah, haven't been on in a while, trying to dive back in. Only need 3 things to run....you remembered!! It still applies too Yep, I'm getting the urge to raise one from the dead. I'm never sure if my fascination with these cars is a blessing or a curse, but it is what it is, right? And I'm a sucker for the goldies.....nostalgia is a dangerous thing in the hands of a fool and his money, right?

I'da stripped it

quote Originally posted by mattwa: Yea, my only point was that they aren't making anymore Fiero's, ever.

Forward looking statements are risky and absolute forward looking statements even riskier.

Today I can build a Trans Am or Mustang completely from scratch from a catalog.

Will that ever be possible with a Fiero? Who knows, but I wouldn't say it's impossible. Maybe they perfect the replicator in the future and a machine somewhere can spit out a complete Fiero based on drawings alone.

quote Originally posted by jscott1: Forward looking statements are risky and absolute forward looking statements even riskier. Today I can build a Trans Am or Mustang completely from scratch from a catalog. Will that ever be possible with a Fiero? Who knows, but I wouldn't say it's impossible. Maybe they perfect the replicator in the future and a machine somewhere can spit out a complete Fiero based on drawings alone.

Hey, if you want to start making brand new Fiero frames, go right ahead, no one will stop you.