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85 GT Plastic Models by ShockWave
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Report this Post11-10-2008 02:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ShockWaveSend a Private Message to ShockWaveDirect Link to This Post
Ordered one of the Monogram 85 Fiero GTs from Fierostore on Friday and want to see pics of completed ones. Also does anyone have any tips for building this model? I haven't built a model car in ages and want to avoid most, if any problems with it.

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Report this Post11-10-2008 07:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
For cement I use Hebco Tenax-7R Plastic Welder
http://www3.towerhobbies.co...i0001p?&I=LXHU34&P=W

It only works on styrene plastic models and goes on with a brush. You basically hold the two parts together and put a brush-drop at one spot on the seam. The cement will run along the seam then you hold the part for about 1 second and it's nearly dry.

Microscale makes a similar product called Micro-Weld that works the same way. The joints are a lot stronger and less messy than using the typical thick plastic cement.

The model has no "problems" and goes tegether very well.

You can see pics of completed models here:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...060811-1-055794.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...020511-1-012822.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/070994.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...050410-6-029646.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...030531-6-013650.html

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Report this Post11-10-2008 04:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 88 Dread GTSend a Private Message to 88 Dread GTDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by ShockWave:

Ordered one of the Monogram 85 Fiero GTs from Fierostore on Friday and want to see pics of completed ones. Also does anyone have any tips for building this model? I haven't built a model car in ages and want to avoid most, if any problems with it.



I don't have any pics of my old models but I did a ton of Trans Am, Firebirds, GTOs back in the mid to late 80's. Monogram I always thought put out the best most detailed kits. MPC/Ertyl kinda blew but they had better variety. All I have now is a '78 T/A streetrod and '87 Grand National. And a Space Battleship Yamato which I thought came out rather well.

I used to have the easiest time when I painted the parts while they were still on the plastic tree. That way you don't get paint all over yourself and smudge what's on the pieces. I usually go with Testor's paints and cement.

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Report this Post11-10-2008 05:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Bradley JaySend a Private Message to Bradley JayDirect Link to This Post
Where does everybody get these models? And all the different modifications for them, like the wheels and engines? I'd love to make one for my car.

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Originally posted by Bradley Jay:

Where does everybody get these models? And all the different modifications for them, like the wheels and engines? I'd love to make one for my car.



The 85 GT was recently re-released, and can still be found at hobby stores, craft stores, pretty much any place that sells plastic models.

The older model kits can almost always be found on ebay. As for customizing, just scrounge from other kits that are the same scale.
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Originally posted by Oreif:

For cement I use Hebco Tenax-7R Plastic Welder
http://www3.towerhobbies.co...i0001p?&I=LXHU34&P=W

It only works on styrene plastic models and goes on with a brush.


I wonder if that's the same as the Testor's Liquid Plastic Cement - it comes in a glass jar (NOT the stuff in the orange tube). Its basically just Methyl-Ethyl-Ketone and is ideal for styrene models. Being MEK, its probably best used in a WELL ventilated area.

I've got a Fiero GT fastback model sitting here for the last several years; eventually I'll re-create my actual car in 1/25 scale. Just have to do a sunroof-delete on it!

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Report this Post11-10-2008 08:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for reverendSend a Private Message to reverendDirect Link to This Post
If you have specific questions regarding building model cars, please PM or e-mail me. I have been building plastic since the mid 50's. I have also written tips and tricks sections for model car magazines. I currently have 7 plastic 1/24-25 scale Fiero kits in progress and just painted a 1/18 scale diecast of my notchy. The 1/18 diecast will be mounted in the rear window of my notchy for car shows.



This is an old build of a GT40 kit.

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Originally posted by css9450:


I wonder if that's the same as the Testor's Liquid Plastic Cement - it comes in a glass jar (NOT the stuff in the orange tube). Its basically just Methyl-Ethyl-Ketone and is ideal for styrene models. Being MEK, its probably best used in a WELL ventilated area.



No, It is not.

MEK also known as Butanone is one of the ingredients in Testors liquid plastic cement. (as well as the orange tube stuff)
The Tenax and Microscale's Micro-weld is methylene chloride also know as Dichloromethane (DCM or Di-Clor)

The Testors liquid cement is 35% Methyl Ethyl Keytone, 35% Ethyl Acetate, and 30% Propylene Glychol. Which is why it can fog up the clear parts used on cars and aircraft models.
(The orange tube cement reduces Propylene Glychol to 25% and adds in 5% of Allyl Isotheocynate to make it more of a gel consistancy)

Tenax and Micro-Weld are 99% Methylene Chloride (which actually use to be called "Freon 30")

If you take a paint brush and dip it in the Testors and let it sit out, It will dry hard overnight.

With the Tenax/Micro-weld the brush hairs will frost up as the DCM evaporates. Leaving the brush free to use again and again.
I use regular paint brushes to apply the glue. I have various sizes of brushes based on the size of the parts I'm joining together.

As with any glue's or chemicals, Always use them in well ventalated area's and use normal cautions. (Don't drink them or get them in your eyes.)

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As with any glue's or chemicals, Always use them in well ventalated area's and use normal cautions. (Don't drink them or get them in your eyes.)



LOL Yeah, a friend of mine knocked over a whole bottle of the Testor's liquid; their entire apartment was virtually uninhabitable for awhile. Never mind the smell, the vapors were probably pretty noxious.

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Report this Post11-11-2008 07:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BazookaFieroSend a Private Message to BazookaFieroDirect Link to This Post
I did one of the Fiero models a while back, currently it is disassembled and awaiting rebuiding :P Here it is:


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I found the one I started and screwed up 2 years ago, so now that I have spare parts coming for that one, I have two to build. I think the older one will be built to look like the red car on the box with the scoops and Indy snorkel, and build/paint the second one to appear as close as possible to my Formula.

Does anyone know of a model kit that had wheels similar to the spoke wheels the Fastbacks and the Formulas had that will fit on the 85 GT model?
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Does anyone know of a model kit that had wheels similar to the spoke wheels the Fastbacks and the Formulas had that will fit on the 85 GT model?


Get the MPC kit no. 6401 of the Fiero GT. It has the lace wheels
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Most of the hobby shops I know of have seperate wheels and tires available. I have built many custom models since I was a teenager. I have an SVT lightning with a custom trailer built to haul a Shelby GT-350 and other related race equipment ie. mounted tires, toolboxes, and welding and compressor stuff. I won two awards with that one. Most hobby shops will have any extra items you will need to build one off custom models.
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Report this Post11-12-2008 06:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hyperv6Send a Private Message to hyperv6Direct Link to This Post
The 1980's Monogram TA has laced 16 inch wheels that will work.
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