quote Originally posted by jscott1: I've never seen a place like that before...

may grandpa told me stories about places like that. he called it the "good ole days" but i'm not sure where that's at? i guess it must be in Canada someplace. funny i didn't know he'd ever been to Canada.

LMAO....then you need to come up here for a vist, and I'll show you some. ;-)

They do exist, and it takes a little trial-and-error work to find them, but they are out there.

Many of us here own and drive Fieros as collectibles. I put less than 1000 miles a year on mine and while I don't want a large displacement and gasoline hungry V8 I do like cruising to York at over 20 MPG. I can do this with a 3800SC which BTW doesn't get much less mileage than a Duke.

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Thats not the gas station limiting sales. Its credit card companies. I think Visa is $50 and Master Card is $75. Try using your other card to fill up. Its that way here too.

Wow, I'm amazed at the prices you guys are talking about for gas here. I was actually just thinking how refreshing it was to only have to spend $19 to fill up my 3.4. I'm used to driving my Blazer which gets the same gas mileage, but has twice the tank.

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quote Originally posted by wikid_one: I was actually just thinking how refreshing it was to only have to spend $19 to fill up my 3.4.

You have a 6 Gallon Tank??

That was for 7 1/4 gallons. Gas around here is in the low $2.60's.

... and I do not remember how much the smaller gas tank is supposed to hold, but this one seems to hold about 8 gallons. I am usually really pushing it to go more than 7.5 gallons. At that point I have stalled out the car by taking off too hard and having the gas move in the tank.

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I guess I should add, my 3.4 gets around 21-22MPG average. It gets about 20 city and 24 highway if I had to guess.

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The smaller tank is supposed to hold at least 10 gallons. If it can't hold more than that, then your pickup tube is bent or something else wrong with it.

Hmmm, I'll have to look into that. I knew that it had the smaller tank, but I didn't think it was that much smaller than the later one. The 87 GT gets about 210 to a tank, and this one gets about 150 (or at least that is when I fill them up usually)

i've been wanting to do a swap for so long, that if i get the chance i'm doing it no matter what happen with gas. if i were able though, i'd love to maybe try that cobalt s/c engine if it has better milage in my 87 coupe (and a 4.9 in my convertible). i'm not looking to be the housepower king, and i'm thinking i'd like the lighter weight too.

88 Formula, 2.8, 5spd, 128,000 miles, daily "do I really have to go to work again?" driver, a very real 28 mpg!!!
I Love it!!!

quote Originally posted by KissMySSFiero: ....Here's my complaint. Gas stations putting a $50 limit on gas when you pay at the pump. .....

And yet these gas stations still have the Illegal policy of not accepting $50.00 and $100.00 bills.

I always get confused on that one.


And yes it IS illegal for them to refuse American currency for payment no matter what the denomination. (Unless the gas station is outside the USA, then they can rightfully reject it due to it's incredibly falling value!)

A buddy of mine used to seek out gas stations that refused 50 and 100 bills and pay with them exclusively. most of the time they would accept it after a short argument, some had to call the cops and the cops forced the station to accept his payment or let him leave with free gas :smile:

quote Originally posted by timgray: A buddy of mine used to seek out gas stations that refused 50 and 100 bills and pay with them exclusively. most of the time they would accept it after a short argument, some had to call the cops and the cops forced the station to accept his payment or let him leave with free gas :smile:

I like that idea.

quote Originally posted by timgray: And yet these gas stations still have the Illegal policy of not accepting $50.00 and $100.00 bills. I always get confused on that one. And yes it IS illegal for them to refuse American currency for payment no matter what the denomination. (Unless the gas station is outside the USA, then they can rightfully reject it due to it's incredibly falling value!) A buddy of mine used to seek out gas stations that refused 50 and 100 bills and pay with them exclusively. most of the time they would accept it after a short argument, some had to call the cops and the cops forced the station to accept his payment or let him leave with free gas :smile:

That one is a murky area. There are some that do the same up here (mostly around toronto) and they claim that by using their pump, you have waived your rights and agreed to their terms, thus making it a matter of contract law and not the bank act.

Simple soloution is to not give them your business. If enough were smart enough to do that, they would change real quick or face bankrupcy.

I'm still driving the land yacht (95 Riv) 100 miles a day to work and back gatting 20 mpg or so. The 87GT 5 speed gets 28 mpg or so, but I'd rather take the extra gas hit than wear out my clutch plate in the 20 miles of daily stop-and-go construction backup... I save the 5 speed for late fall and early half of winter when the roads are at their best around here.

RORFLMAO

Oh, man do I miss the land yaht..71 Crysler new yorker with a 440, 73 satlite sebring with a 318, an 84 Buick with an olds 302, and 68 caddy with a 500.

You didnt get a drivers licence bak then---you got captains papers ;-)

OTOH, with todays prices, it would cost 10 bucks just to turn the key.

I put over $30 worth of gas in my Formula yesterday, and it wasn't totally empty. I think that's the first time I've broken $30 to fill up a Fiero.
Premium was about $3.06 yesterday. Regular was $2.86.

I just drove from Archie's shop to my home in northern Virginia. Gas prices for super unlead ranged from $2.899 in Crawfordsville Indiana to $3.159 here in Virginia. The car just received an LS-2 & six speed. Not exactly an economy car, but I averaged 25.8 MPG. Engine still has a ways to go before it can be considered broken in.

quote Originally posted by Doc John: The car just received an LS-2 & six speed. Not exactly an economy car, but I averaged 25.8 MPG. Engine still has a ways to go before it can be considered broken in.

I've got a well broken in duke to trade you for that! the six speed is the only way to go on an SBC. 25.8 mpg is very respectable for a 6.0 Liter engine

350 SBC here. To answer the question, "NOPE"
But I would like a larger gas tank, the station knows me by name now
Gary

quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: Thats not the gas station limiting sales. Its credit card companies. I think Visa is $50 and Master Card is $75. Try using your other card to fill up. Its that way here too.

Not 100% True. Not every station does it, so it's the station that enforces it. I've had local stations enforce it one day, and let it go the next.

btw, I'm keeping my v8 regardless of fuel costs.

When I got gas friday night it was $3.17 here in Boise.

Just drove from Omaha to KC and Back with our 3800sc ran the air and drove about 70 avg 29 mpg. This 87 Blue Fiero get the best mileage of anything I got. My 88 2.8 will do about 26. So why play with a Duke.

Lucky Dick

The annoying thing about the $50 dollar bill policy is that it's a holdover from the 60s and 70s when gas was under a dollar a gallon and a fillup was less than $20. There was no need for a $50 and required the station to keep a lot of cash on hand to make change.

As you know nowadays, with a truck, $50 isn't enough to fill it up, so the make change argument is not valid. It's just people not using their brains.

Also regarding the larger diameter tires, everything else being equal you will get better mileage. It's like having a numerically lower final gear ratio so it will lower your RPM and increase fuel economy. Anybody for a set of DUBs on a duke powered Fiero??

my ecotec fiero gt gets 25 mpg (us) in town and i have seen 35 on the 401 .and it runs like a cat with turpentine up its a$$.i leave my 22 mpg(us) honda element in the driveway all summer.got my cake ,eat it too.

I'll keep my 4.9 the WOW factor and 22 Mpg are just fine with me. Premium here in North Idaho is $2.90 and the car is just to much fun to drive.

Joe Sokol

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88 Formula/GT 4.9 Allante Intake (My Baby)

My Fiero doesn't run on gas, it runs on magic!

lol, actually you guys should be glad you have fuel getting into your engine.
Im still trying to get my injectors to fire.
Stupid pass key :\

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My wife and I were contemplating converting my 4.9 V8 to electric... but it has nothing to do with gas prices. More to do with the fact that it left me stranded yesterday...

More to the point, it's a recreational vehicle these days so gas isn't really that much of an issue. There's no better feeling in the world than pulling up at a light next to some weak, ghey, save the planet, Prius driving moron, while savoring the Fiero's mighty V8 exhaust note... only to have the POS die on you in the middle of traffic and watching the Prius drive away...

quote Originally posted by GT: My wife and I were contemplating converting my 4.9 V8 to electric... but it has nothing to do with gas prices. More to do with the fact that it left me stranded yesterday... More to the point, it's a recreational vehicle these days so gas isn't really that much of an issue. There's no better feeling in the world than pulling up at a light next to some weak, ghey, save the planet, Prius driving moron, while savoring the Fiero's mighty V8 exhaust note... only to have the POS die on you in the middle of traffic and watching the Prius drive away...

But you will fix it and they will still be stuck in a slug.

quote Originally posted by jscott1: Gas is ranging between $2.69 and $2.79 USD for Regular 87 Octane per US Gallon.

I wish gas was that cheap here!!! Regular unleaded is at $3.13 and the goodstuff is at $3.33 Unfortunately for me i have to run the googstuff in the 3800sc. Thats OK though. I get around 30MPG in it.

the worst part is though...it's still going up! I bet gas will be over $4.00 per gallon within the next 2 months here.

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My best advice when it comes to your Fiero is to "NOT" do any dealings with www.kitcarman.com

quote Originally posted by jscott1: I've never seen a place like that before...

...there are quite a few of those still around up here in Canada

...some places even have both: pump your own, or they will (not sure if I get the point in having both).

quote But you will fix it and they will still be stuck in a slug.

Oh yes, good point.

quote Originally posted by Mickey_Moose: ...some places even have both: pump your own, or they will (not sure if I get the point in having both).

Except for Oregon and New Jersey, where it's illegal to have self-serve, I haven't seen a full service pump in decades in the US. Maybe they still exist, but with gas prices going up they are real hard to find. Even my sister who used to refuse to pump gas has finally succumbed to high prices and pumps her own.

Everyone is so quick to trash the 2.8s. it can make good power and still get good gas milage if you know what youre doing.

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We should count our blessings, the gas and air is worth about $6 conservatively.

quote Originally posted by cwatson: the gas and air is worth about $6 conservatively.

Last time I checked they hadn't figured out a way to charge us for the air yet.

I swapped in a Duke. (It is now on the second one).

quote Originally posted by jscott1: The smaller tank is supposed to hold at least 10 gallons. If it can't hold more than that, then your pickup tube is bent or something else wrong with it.

because the tank is long and skinny, all the gas sloshes to the front when stopping or downhill. if i dont fill up at 7.5 gallons i risk dying at the stoplight.

The 87-88 tank isn't that much bigger at 11.2 gallons and I can have taken out 10 gallons with no problems. The tank has baffles.

just saw the news tonight, 3.99 at a chevron somewhere in florida for 87, it was over 4.18 for the expensive stuff :