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Blue Toy - 1984 Fiero Project Build by Oslo
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Report this Post11-13-2006 09:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OsloClick Here to visit Oslo's HomePageSend a Private Message to OsloDirect Link to This Post
Well, this car has suffered. It hit a deer, has been neglected from a previous owner, and the camshaft gear has stripped. I'm going to turn this car back into something worth driving...

Started by tearing apart the engine to clean, replace seals and gaskets, and fix the cam gear.

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I suspected that the cam gear was bad, so I had to drop down the engine a ways to get at the camshaft. Also, this engine leaks oil like a siv! So I'm basically rebuilding the engine at the same time.

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Report this Post11-13-2006 09:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for NewbfieroSend a Private Message to NewbfieroDirect Link to This Post
Nice projeck in your Hand ,Love the wheels it had on her ..Rob
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I miss my 84. There was just something about a first year fiero that gives you that raw driving experience.

Looks like you have your hands full. Keep posting pics, looks like a good project to follow.

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Report this Post11-14-2006 12:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OsloClick Here to visit Oslo's HomePageSend a Private Message to OsloDirect Link to This Post
well, after I got the cam out my pile of stuff on the table had been growing, and the gear is DEFINITELY my explanation for the engine not running:





And, like magic. New cam gear:::

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The seats in the car were torn up and old looking, so I got a custom Iggee seat cover set and installed them at the same time that I massively cleaned the interior of the car. ***Disclaimer*** I did not paint any of the blue trim. You should have seen the interior BEFORE I replaced all of the bezels with stock replacements. YUCK! The interior is not done being worked over.

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I put in a brand new Alpine CD/MP3 deck and wired the car for an amp if I feel like it in the future.





I then redid the headliner in new black headliner material:


My sweet new keychain:


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All of the parts that I pulled off of the engine made of metal will be cleaned and then painted. Here they are glass-beaded and cleaned up ready for paint:



But until the paint is finished up, I'll be cleaning out under the hood. I don't want to see any fires...

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Oreif's Door tabs to match the car:


Here's the new steering wheel:



And one more toy for tonight, under the hood:


Once I've cleaned up all of the leaves and debris under the hood I need to tackle this mess:

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Hi Nelson ,
i looked into my garage and found a twin of ur blue toy

We built up an 1984 Fiero last summer , even the color matches
Ours was a 500Euro , broken engine , crappy painted E-bay buy .
I got a 40k miles iron Duke with perf. cam and ported intakes installed
Transmission is the manual 4 performance (quite sure about that because the car is at 160km/h over 4500 rpm)
iam a little proud of the polished rims (took me a lot hours but i had no Fingerprints after it)





buildingstory is here but only in german www.format-service.de/restaurationen_1.htm

Your Engine looks really terrible , good luck with it.
btw. i thought of the 16V 2.3L engine from the Transport for my other Fiero (Black 87SE)
maybe its an Option for you too

greetings from Hamburg
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Oslo,
I like that blue color (on the exterior ), any idea what color that is?
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Sweets car man, can't wait to see it done.

I lost the timing gear on my 84 this fall and I just put it into storage till spring.

What did you have to do to get the old timing gear off and the new gear onto the cam?

Are you having the head rebuilt also?

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nice car. i have the same steering wheel in blue and white
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Report this Post11-15-2006 08:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OsloClick Here to visit Oslo's HomePageSend a Private Message to OsloDirect Link to This Post
to pull the timing gear out I had to:
remove valve cover
remove or loosen the rockers
remove the pushrods
remove the lifter cover
remove the lifters
remove the crankshaft pulley
remove the timing cover
take wheels off and pull brake calipers off to the sides
dropped rear of cradle down about 3 feet
removed 2 10mm bolts behind the camshaft
removed the oil pump drive next to/above the oil filter
removed the distributor

Came right out...
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Damn, looks like a lot of work to that engine. How confident are you that after the rebuild the motor isn't going to crap out after like 6k miles? Or is this a full rebuild and not just a cam gear?
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OK sounds easy to that point but...

How did you get the old gear off the cam and the new gear back on, I heard they are pressed on and off, do you have a press?
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Report this Post11-15-2006 09:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OsloClick Here to visit Oslo's HomePageSend a Private Message to OsloDirect Link to This Post
My father is the automotive machining and engine rebuilding instructor at Northwest Technical College Bemidji. I have about any tool you could possibly imagine at my disposal if I ask nice enough. So, yea, I used a giant hydraulic press. Otherwise it'd cost probably around $25 - $30 at a shop.

I'm pulling off the head tonigth to replace the rings and then when it is all going back together, I'll be replacing the crank bearings.

I haven't decided yet if I'll be rebuilding the head. That's easy enough to rebuild if the need arises.

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Report this Post11-21-2006 08:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OsloClick Here to visit Oslo's HomePageSend a Private Message to OsloDirect Link to This Post
We got a bunch of parts cleaned up and painted, so here's the finished work in that department:





And that young lady would be my wife. She's usually not that goofy looking, we were just having a good time having date night in the garage pulling the head on the fiero!! What a blast!

So, this is what we started with:

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We jumped right in, removed the thermostat housing, the head bolts, the exhaust manifold and it came right up with some persuasion.







And all with only a minor injury:



This car had been sitting for about a year in a field, and there was a small pile of dirt in about every cylinder:
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For some reason, 2 of the 4 brand new AC Delco spark plugs decided to break on their way out also. I replaced these a couple months ago when I thought the problem was the ignition system, now that I am pulling them out for the first time, they snapped in half. Can't tell if I wasn't gentle enough, or if they're just cheap.





Victory is ours! And next the head will be hot tanked, magnafluxed, decked, rebuilt, then we're going to do a re-ring kit and slap the whole thing back together! I'll keep you all updated.
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Great (Re)Build there Chris! Looking forward to watching your progress - this isn't the same car that was rolling around on those giant chrome wheels, is it?

And I didn't realize that you guys got married already!? Congrats!

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bump.

Anymore updates or progress pics?
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ok Who has popcorn I can,t wait to see more ..finaly a 4 cylinder lol ..good job Oslo
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Heya Chris...
I didn't know you were married! Nice find! Your wife has officially held at least one more ratchet than mine.

You prolly have already done this, but make sure to clean the debris out of the heater elements in the front hood.
Being in a field... you may find a family of rats or other small furry woodland creatures have decided to take up residence in there!
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That brake hose don't look too happy. Hang that caliper!
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wow, cute wife!

awesome that you 2 can do things like this together!



(you know theres these 2 threads.. girls with/without Fieros... )

ill be watching anyways cause i appreciate the duke a lil bit
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Ok the valve cover has to be on by now so a bump to see lol
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Report this Post03-09-2007 08:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OsloClick Here to visit Oslo's HomePageSend a Private Message to OsloDirect Link to This Post
Well, since the last post, I've done a teardown and rebuild of a 1.8L 16v DOHC in a 2000 Chevy Prism, an intake manifold gasket replacement on a 3100sfi in a '97 Chevy Lumina, a half shaft replacement in a '94 honda civic, and a bunch of other work to a '92 honda civic all in my spare time. Basically, been busy helping other people with their projects, so this one has taken a back seat. But I'm jumping back into it right now.

The original head had 7 major cracks on the combustion chamber side and after that we didn't even bother to magnaflux any of the other sides....

I got another cylinder head from AnimalGT for the price of shipping. THANKS SCOTT!!
I magnafluxed that head and it had one crack in one of the valve seats, but a new set of hard seats will take care of that problem and it is totally rebuildable. So hopefully in the next week or two I'll have the head rebuild, then everything can go back together.

New Rings,
Bearings,
Gaskets,
and a fresh rebuilt head with a performance valve job.

I got a new steering wheel and a new radio since the last time I updated also. I finished swapping out all of the old nasty interior pieces (except the carpet) and I'm working on prepping the engine for the rebuild now.

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Here are the new pictures of the interior. It's almost finished but after looking at these pictures, I may pull the black carpet out of my silver fiero and stuff it inside this car. YUK











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Once I get the engine rebuilt, I'm replacing the front bumper cover, hood, and drivers side front fender to repair some damage done by hitting a deer. At that time, I'm also going to do this:



This scoop will incorporate a custom air duct underneath and it will help feed my new intake setup for the duke.

and also, FYI: The reason for even putting this car together is 2 fold:
1. Have something to do while I'm parting out my silver Fiero
2. Get it ready to sell when it's back on the road and driving!

I'll get more updates later.
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the head is rebuilt, now I'm getting the body panels done

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Got the damaged body panels repaired and repainted:

drivers fender is replaced and painted:


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The hood was replaced and repainted:


the passenger door skin was pulled off, filled in the cracks and scratches and repainted:



I'll be working on it tonight, and I hope to start reassembly on the engine tomorrow night.
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Nice build up... I wish my garage was that big, I can barely get in and out of my car the garage is so narrow.
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pulled out the factory torsion springs because this car is getting a gas strut kit put in. Also pulled out all of the insulation crap to make it look nicer.


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Got the first piston in after I cleaned the deck and removed the exhaust system.



and then...

HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!



big ol' crack in the piston skirt... gotta find another one...

Does anybody have an extra '84 2.5L piston that I can get?

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Sorry I can't help you with the piston.

The project's coming along well, the paint looks good.

I just pulled my 84 out of storage and hope to do the timing gear and head in the next month or two.

I'm curious why you didn't go with the aluminum timing gear/steel crank gear set.
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because the fiber gear is supposed to be more quiet than the steel gear set, and the old fiber gear lasted for 20 years, and I have no intention of keeping this car that long!! haha
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It aint fixed unless you bleed a little atleast thats how I always figured it.
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well, things are not going smooth,

cylinders 2 and 4 are not cooperating... for some reason I can't get the piston to go in either cylinder... I'm going to buy a different style ring compressor tomorrow and see if I can coax them in there... but I don't get it...

But I did get the camshaft in with the 2 new gears, and got the lifters, distributor, and oil drive gear installed. I guess the next thing is to get those pistons in there...
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Well, got the rest of the replacement body parts painted:



Also, after replacing a cracked piston, the engine is going together smoothly:



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Added a strobe light kit to the front, and a gas strut kit for the hood and decklid:

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