I am thinking about replacing my carpet. Could everyone who has replaced theirs post some pictures to help me decide. I have the typical 87 grey interior with Mr Mikes seats in midnight and dark grey and am considering dark grey, black, or graphite as the carpet color. Also has anyone bought their carpet from these guys:
I got a Box with one of them new black carpets, but i doubt it will be in the car for another few weeks. My car has a problem with making me pull everything apart on it.... one day it might be finished
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1MohrFiero Member
Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
Thanks for the repy. Please post the pics if you get it installed. I understand the collection of parts for "when I get time". Good thing my wife doesn't keep track of whats in the garage!
Look past the crappy body work and the ugly cheapo interior blue stuff (needed something quick and cheap to get me throug the long saving up for something better waiting). I did the bottom door panels with vinyl, and the black carpet is an ACC carpet from A1 auto. I think ALL fiero aftermarket carpets are made by ACC. I know A and FieroStore both ship out ACC carpets when you buy from them.
The carpet is not nearly the quality of the OEM. The padding is crap and the fiber pulls off from continued rubbing at the spot clutch pad footrest, which doesn;t exist on the aftermarket. However, it is WAY better than a 20 year old crappy grey carpet. If your OEM is on good condition and you like grey or tan then keep it. But if you want a change of color or your carpet is worn out, then get one of these. I would do it all over again if given the chance.
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Sep 8th, 2005
1MohrFiero Member
Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
Thanks for the pics C--Fiero. Your doors look great with the vinyl on bottom. Removing the door carpet is one part of the project I am not looking forward to.
Keep the pics coming. I know there are more out there.
I'm not sure if you remember when you saw my car but it was ACC carpet as well. I have yet to see any for the Fiero that wasn't. I'm at work now and don't have access to the pics but will send you some when I get home if you still need it.
The door carpet I have in my car (once again, I can get you some pics) was a roll bought from Autozone, I think. I used brake cleaner to take the old door carpet off. It was pretty easy going. That glue that held the original carpet on was no match for the brake cleaner. When I installed the new stuff, I used contact cement along the edges and spray adhesive for the middle. That was over a year ago and it still looks like I did it yesterday.
Let me know if you need anything.
Chris
OK, there we go. Found one.
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Thanks for the pics C--Fiero. Your doors look great with the vinyl on bottom. Removing the door carpet is one part of the project I am not looking forward to.
Keep the pics coming. I know there are more out there.
Hi...it is really easy to remove the carpet on the lower door area.Just heat it with a hairdryer, or heatgun, and peel it away..it is really that easy!!" I would never buy " fitted ready-made carpet". It is, again, so simple to make your own, from a roll of canvas-backed carpet. If you need help or explanation, just PM me. Nick
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Posts: 1264 From: Keymar MD USA Registered: Nov 2003
I did a write up on how to do EL gauges with colored needles. However I would suggest NOT doing needles in blue, blue is not a good light conducter. Use a bright flourescent white and they should look cool. Or just leave them clear.
However I would suggest NOT doing needles in blue, blue is not a good light conducter. Use a bright flourescent white and they should look cool. Or just leave them clear.
There is truth to that. However, I used an opaque blue on the back of the needles and then a coat of flourescent white. From the back, my needles look white and from the front they look blue. With the lights on the blue shows up well.
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Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
Wow, Chris. I had forgotten about your carpet and doors. Did you use black? I remember now that I liked the look a lot. Do you still need that seat bottom? I have done my seats and have one with only a small dime sized hole in it or the other with a few stains.
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Posts: 4842 From: Des Moines IA Registered: Dec 2002
I replaced the salt and pepper carpet with black. I even got rid of it on the doors. If you install black carpet and don't do the lower panels it will not look right. Fortunately, Mr. Mikes still sells the lower door panels in leather and vinyl.
If you get new carpet install it over the top of your old stuff. The old carpet will serve as a sound deadener. I think it is definitely worth tha added weight. I would estimate that it is worth around 10 db.
Install tip: If you install the new over the old, cut out the old carpet where the seat rails sat. If you don't starting the nut that holds it down will be nearly impossible.
Okay. let me ask this, which color do you think will go best with my seats? First the old seats for comparison:
Now the new seats:
Should I use black carpet (many of you have and it looks good) or a darker gray or graphite color? Any other suggestions? Note the outer seat color is almost a perfect match to the darkest dash color. The middle seat color is very close to the dark gray of the console and door panels.
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Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
This was easier to do than I expected: I took the MrMikes sample card to a store and picked the color...a 4m x1m piece does both sides (each 2x1m)
This looks really good. I am surprised by it. Did you put it over the old carpet? Did you cut it or fold it near the console corner behind the seat (in the top pic here)?
Thanks forthe pics. Got any with the door molding installed?
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Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
Originally posted by 1MohrFiero: This looks really good. I am surprised by it. Did you put it over the old carpet? Did you cut it or fold it near the console corner behind the seat (in the top pic here)? Thanks forthe pics. Got any with the door molding installed?
Yes I put it over the old carpet because thats already molded on the back to sit smooth... I lined up the carpet at the midconsole and rear first, bolted down the seat nuts to have a starting point and started working the carpet into the corners, first at the back. One side meeting the corner gets a vertical cut, same on the other side, basically cutting a V from the carpet and fold them in place So you need to cut most corners but if you take care youll see where to cut...its not that hard. The front wheelwells are a bit more difficult but it can be done nicely (honestly I have to do some more trimming to make it even better You have to cut out some squares where the trim slots in (the rearpanels) but its obvious and easy to cut when the carpet is lined up. I have all the doortrim in place but no pics yet, sorry...
I have Mr Mike's seats in Midnight and Dark Grey, my carpet is graphite.
Man, that was exactly what I was looking for. Do you have any more pics? I looked at your website but couldn't find much else. Is that ACC molded carpet? Great looking car and web site, too. Thanks,
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Posts: 15231 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
Man, that was exactly what I was looking for. Do you have any more pics? I looked at your website but couldn't find much else. Is that ACC molded carpet? Great looking car and web site, too. Thanks,
That's it. I have to update my website because I changed quite a few things (new stereo too). The carpet is ACC moulded cut pile carpet - Graphite # 7701
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Sep 11th, 2005
1MohrFiero Member
Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
Awesome, that was the color I was wanting to use. It looks really good. I will need to order extra to cover the door panels and that strange piece of particle board behind the seat. Does anybody know what that covers or why it is there?
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That panel in the back basically just covers the firewall. I suppose it serves as a sound deadener(is that a word?) as well. I recovered mine with the same carpet as my doors.
I did not get that job but I did get one woking for Saks Inc. in Jackson as a Sr. Systems Admin. So far, it's great. If you guys hppen to be passing through and have time, give me a call.
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Nov 27th, 2005
topcat Member
Posts: 5486 From: Charleston SC Registered: Dec 2001
Chief, did you pick a carpet already? I am going to do mine before Christmas, and was looking fro a good replacement. When I first got this car, it had an aftermarket carpet installed over the stock carpet, and frankly it looked pretty bad. I am not sure if it was due to neglect, or just a cheap knock-off. The material was pretty thin, and wore really bad where your feet normally rest. I am not sure which brand it was, but one of the first thingas I did was get rid of it. The stock stuff underneath looked much better once I pressure washed it.
I am doing new Mr Mikes next week, and want to do carpet while I am at it.
Thanks
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1MohrFiero Member
Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
Tony, I did replace my carpet and am about 98% satisfied with it. If you do it I would recommend taking it out of the box when you get it and let sit for a day or two to return to shape. Take you time fitting in the car and I might use some glue to tack it in place if I were to do it again. Just follow their directions. Friendly folks to order from and they ship fast. The price has gone up $15 since i bought mine but they still beat most other suppliers. One last tip, before you start your Mr. Mikes seats clean and paint the tracks while they are off the seats. Rusty seat tracks really ruin the new look. I like semi-flat black but you can use whatever color suits you. Here are some pics of mine and a link to the supplier. I ordered an extra yard of material and did the doors too but should have got 2 yards to doo the board in back. Yes this is thinner than the original but it is molded. They sell a type called Tuxedo which looks like a good match to the original but it is not molded. The drivers side comes with a rubber foot pad to prevent your heal from wearing through.
Thanks for the pics. What color did you select? You said you are 98% pleaseed... what is it that you do not like about them, the fit without glueing them down, or just the fact that they needed to sit for a couple of days to "fit" the floor pan? The hardest thing for me right now is picking the right color. The color you have looks like about the color I want. I do not want a light gray, but I do not want it too dark either. I was actually looking at the very same website this morning when trying to find the best price.
As far as the seat tracks, yep... been there done that. The last car I did Mr Mikes in, I noticed the tracks after I put them back in the car. I will make it a point to take my time and sandblast, then paint the tracks this time.
I am also tossing around the idea of doing my lower door panel in vinyl or leather to match the bolster color of the seats instead of carpet... but I have not made my mind up yet. I will definitly do the rear panel in vinyl
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Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
The 2% part is some loose places near the pedals and the reason I may go back in and use some glue. Taking your time and better fitting might help. I have also heard some oldtimer stories about installing the carpet wet...sounds like a big hassle to me.
The color I chose is graphite and it looks really good against the stock interior parts and the Mr Mikes seats too (Midnight and dark gray).
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Posts: 5486 From: Charleston SC Registered: Dec 2001
I went with the cut-pile because it was molded and it definetly updates the look of the car. i ordered new floor mats from the Fiero Store. They can get more colors than they advertise and were able to get graphite. It is a different nap but looks good. Here are some more pics. That is Spenser, my 10 year old Golden Retriever in the background.
I had to replace the pedal covers because they looked real bad against the carpet but I couldn't find one for the gas so I just cleaned it as much as possible (this pic is before the cleaning). I also took the opportunity to fix any warpage on the shifter console and radio surround. While I had that off I painted the rusted metal support you can see through the a/c vent (semi gloss black again and it disappears).
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This is really good post with very good replies. I have been looking at installing new carpet and this post gave me some other companies to check out. I want to go with standard automotive molded carpet. I have seen alot of people install regular non-molded carpet, which I have done myself also, and never really liked the end result. Where you make the cuts, usually friad after a little while and you can never seal the raw edge well enough to stop it. In the case of the Fieros there is the area behind the seats, you really need to attach the cuts together for support. I have tried sealing the raw edges with silicone adhesive, made for carpet use, then I glued the cut edges together to form that well and then reinforced it with carpet tape and duck tape. After a few years it still friad and the seam open up. So, I will always use molded carpet. And never install the new carpet over the old, it just looks bad.
If you are thinking about redoing the cover that goes over the firewal behind the seats. Go to a good upholsery shop. They will have the material there. I do not remember what they call it, it is a specific name, but just take along a sample and they will know. That is what I did when I redid my headliner and that cover. They where able to match it perfectly.
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Posts: 5486 From: Charleston SC Registered: Dec 2001
Thanks for the tip on the upholstery shop... there happens to be a really good one near me that did my sunvisors. I might take it along with the door panels to the shop and ask then to do them in vinyl, their expertise might be worth it in the long run. I am dreading doing the door panels anyway.
You mentioned that you should not install over the old. Does anyone have any pics of it installed this way?
I've heard just the opposite, because the newer stuff is thin, and does not have the insulation that the old stuff has. I had planned on removing some of the insulation from the old carpet, and install the new over the old to retain a "thick" feel unerneath my feet.
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Originally posted by techman2:
This is really good post with very good replies. I have been looking at installing new carpet and this post gave me some other companies to check out. I want to go with standard automotive molded carpet. I have seen alot of people install regular non-molded carpet, which I have done myself also, and never really liked the end result. Where you make the cuts, usually friad after a little while and you can never seal the raw edge well enough to stop it. In the case of the Fieros there is the area behind the seats, you really need to attach the cuts together for support. I have tried sealing the raw edges with silicone adhesive, made for carpet use, then I glued the cut edges together to form that well and then reinforced it with carpet tape and duck tape. After a few years it still friad and the seam open up. So, I will always use molded carpet. And never install the new carpet over the old, it just looks bad.
If you are thinking about redoing the cover that goes over the firewal behind the seats. Go to a good upholsery shop. They will have the material there. I do not remember what they call it, it is a specific name, but just take along a sample and they will know. That is what I did when I redid my headliner and that cover. They where able to match it perfectly.
I suppose you are right if the carpet you purchase is thin or does not have a good backing. It might be better to install it over the old carpet. But then again if the new carpet you purchase is thin or does not have a good backing, why buy it. I would go with a good quality carpet with good backing like ACC sells and I like the end result will be much better and last longer. If the carpet is thin to begin with, it will just ware that much faster and you will not be happy. Remember you get what you pay for, spend the extra few dollars and buy the best quality you can afford.
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Nov 28th, 2005
1MohrFiero Member
Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
Tony - the carpet from the above link is ACC carpet. In fact I think ACC may be the only after market manufacturer out there. As for putting the new over the old, I gave it some thought and here are the things that changed my mind. If you have any stains or smells in the old carpet they will still be in there with you - they may even work their way into your new carpet. The new carpet has insulation on the back and may be too thick in areas like where the seats bolt up and where it goes under the console. The new carpet may tend to slide around. If it is too thick under the clutch pedal you won't be happy. Just some things that made me decide to install it per the instructions. Don't forget to post pics when you are done.
I replaced the salt and pepper carpet with black. I even got rid of it on the doors. If you install black carpet and don't do the lower panels it will not look right. Fortunately, Mr. Mikes still sells the lower door panels in leather and vinyl.
If you get new carpet install it over the top of your old stuff. The old carpet will serve as a sound deadener. I think it is definitely worth tha added weight. I would estimate that it is worth around 10 db.
Install tip: If you install the new over the old, cut out the old carpet where the seat rails sat. If you don't starting the nut that holds it down will be nearly impossible.
Wow i really like that... i was going to do my interior all black but after seeing that i think ill just get new carpet and black and grey leather seats.... i love it... looks awsome!
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Posts: 5486 From: Charleston SC Registered: Dec 2001
I have thought the issue of using the old carpet as "insulation" I am going to wait for the new carpet to arrive to see just how sturdy it is before I make a final decision, but my initial thoughts are to remove the insulation from the old carpet and throw it out, then pressure wash the old and let it dry before putting it back in. To keep the new carpet from sliding around on the old, I might use double sided carpet tape in a few strategic spots.
I spoke with the company this morning and it should be here by Saturday. I will snap pics along the way.