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Widebody Construction ... STARTED...Here is the Final look. by jigsaw
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maybe 2\3 the width but I love the idea. run with it.
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..nevermind..

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Report this Post05-28-2005 08:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Racer_JTSend a Private Message to Racer_JTDirect Link to This Post
Whats the real chance of you or someone actually putting this together? I ask this because that it the same look I was thinking about but have no ability to make it. I would be interested in purchasing the first one Please let me know what you think is the chance of going from this idea to a real car done!

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Originally posted by jigsaw:
and the rear stock
and the rear after the chop and widebody.


tell me your thoughts, I want a widebody, But I still want it to look like a fiero as you look at the side profile.

IMO the photoshop'd pick is way too wide. It even appears to be wider than an IRM wide body and from looking at it...it's nearly 18" out from the body. Remember, the farthest point for known production rims are 13" and they will cost you a bundle. Given that size limit in mind, you'll only need to go outward (from the stock body) of 5-6" at the most, leaving 1" just enough to tuck-in the rear wheels. This has been my own experience with the Redux and #15 using 11" rear rims. I could go outward another 1-2" inches. Anything beyond that would IMO defeats my original purpose.

As you've stated, "I want it to look like a Fiero." IMO the key is too add items or exaggerate the existing body part to appear normal but...in reality not.

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I was doing a "search" for a lite purple colored gt fastback with very wide front and rear fender flares as a example. Maybe MinntgreenGt could find it?

Edit; Okay I found it:

As you can see from this wide fender pic, your photoshop pic is wider then this purple GT pic or even wider than #15.

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How about Green widebody? From last years Fiero Dutch Classic in Gettysburg, PA.


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Originally posted by avengador1:



I am about a 1" wider then this one above..( I love that Green one)
I found a pic of mine(in progress)
This is looking downward on the passengerside-facing forward...


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or the green fastback widebody that was at the show arty had in lancaster, Pa sometime last year at longs park (same one as above... lol)

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hey arty, that decal holding up...
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...did he fall off the edge of the earth or what...? (havent heard from him in awhile)

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Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger:

I am about a 1" wider then this one above..( I love that Green one)
I found a pic of mine(in progress)
This is looking downward on the passengerside-facing forward...

not to be mean or anything steve... but aside from the small ones in your sigh... thats the only other picture ive ever seen of your car... lol, please, look for more :-p or do u need a camera...?

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Not a fan of the green widebody. I like jigsaw's concept because aside from being wider, it still looks factory. I do not like when they have to comprimise for the stock GT tail lights, when you make the actual lights wider like jigsaw has, it looks 100% better imo.

The wheels are photoshopped, they are an exageration. I would buy one! Looks as wide as an enzo or diablo.



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Report this Post05-29-2005 09:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jigsawSend a Private Message to jigsawDirect Link to This Post
well Guys I love all the reviews.. and to answer the question as to what is the Likelyness of this kit being completed.. well Its Not a Question. I have my first chasis THat will be the Buck for the front Moulds. I will post pics this week of the initiation of the car, and the start of the work. On the rear wheels Well If you have never seen a 335/35/18 in real life... well its worth the drive to a custom Tire shop, or a local exotic car dealership.. These tires are VERY wide. At a sidewall to sidewall width of almost 18 Inches. I specialize in Exotics here at my shop, and have worked on Exotics since I was first starting out. I grew up in LA My first job as a painters helper was at the ferrari dealership In Hollywood. I later became the lead painter after 3 years of training. I have carried that experience with me and have grown even more.. Although we never stop learning, I do have 16 years of experience. I have had my own custom shop here in Oklahome now for 7 years. I have built and owned many kitcars, for me as well as customers. I have also Owned the real thing. I have owned 3 Ferraris. 2 - 308s and one 1974 Dino LeMans. On my dino I had 345/35/15 rear tires. and Well there is nothing like that rear view.. I will be using my expertise as I venture out into this project. as well as Knowing EXACTLY what I didnt like about all the kits I have assembled before. To all that are Taking This Pic so Serious... Just a Reminder... Its a Photoshop, and It can only come so close to What the actual Porduct will be.. So Keep up With this thread, and you will see the project come together and You will see Why I am sticking with this Design. Stay Tuned..

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Jigsaw... I love the photo above! It makes me even gladder that I have a Fiero! That's quite a resume you ahve up there- should quiet alot of naysayers.

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Report this Post05-29-2005 11:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Racer_JTSend a Private Message to Racer_JTDirect Link to This Post
Would you please work your photoshop magic on these pics for me to see?
http://www.fierosails.com/images/StripesRFront.jpg
http://www.fierosails.com/images/StripesLRear.jpg


Thanks
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Jigsaw you Steve(smooth) need to come to Austin in Oct for the big show here( fieros only )
Love to meet ya.

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hey Jesse here is a quick Photoshop of your car, I didnt do the mirrors, But its a good look at the stock roofline with the widebody. I will spend some more time and post a better pic this evening, I will also E/mail it to you.


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Report this Post06-01-2005 07:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rims05Send a Private Message to rims05Direct Link to This Post
hey i love the concept i'm really excited to see it finished and painted, with the mirror problem, all you would have to do is make a little "mirror stilt" to put the mirror above the fender,

keep with ur idea make it however wide you want, its gonna look sweet its the best widebody concept i've seen

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Since you will be redoing just about all the panels on the car you should look at doing away with the waist level trim
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Originally posted by Racer_JT:

Since you will be redoing just about all the panels on the car you should look at doing away with the waist level trim

That's waist level? Are you a garden gnome?

Waist level for me is the roof.

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LOL.......waist level of the car
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When are you starting on this project ?

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6419&item=4553686 435&rd=1

Looks like he sold the car on eBay.

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doubt it would have happened anyways, i dont think some people realize how many hours it would take to create such a car.
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Report this Post06-07-2005 07:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero_AdamSend a Private Message to Fiero_AdamDirect Link to This Post
Hey guys, I don't think he was planning on using that car for this project. He just used it for photoshopping.
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probley like 400 hours without paint and finishing
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No the car on ebay had nothing to do with the project.

He previously said in this thread that he was not using it.

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Oh, my bad. I should read more.
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Hey Guys Here is the latest, As you have seen One of my cars sold On Ebay, Well that was the start of this journey, I sold this car To fund the widebody adventure, I have 2 other spare chassis that will be used for Mock up, As with any project this will be a lot of work, But I have been doing Custom work like this for many years This project is already started, I will get some of the first Pics Posted By this weekend, I am starting with the nose and front fenders. this Project is STARTED, so Now I need encouragement.... Do doubters On this thread...And It will be completed, It will be a Kit that will be for sale, so we can all have a chance for that exotic car look. ..
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here in Australia we would not be allowed to do this but would have to go thru serveral thousand dollars in engineering certificates to allow this on the road..
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Report this Post06-09-2005 08:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroXSend a Private Message to fieroXDirect Link to This Post
hey jigsaw, the project looks very promising. Nice work. Lets see what one would look like on a notchy

you can color the car if you would like. I prefer orange

someday itll be painted.

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I'm going to have to start saving... widebody and a choptop..
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just my opinion, but to me, it looks like a motorbike hit your door and smashed it inside the car... looks funny.
i know it would be a rediculous amount of work, but if you could bring the door outward to meet the other panels, that would be great.
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Don't listen, keep it as is.
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well If you were to see this in person It would change your mind, Look back at many of the great Race cars that have inspired many exotics and this is Common practice. WIDE fenders, and NArrow Doors. It is simply used to widen the Tract of the car, to increase turning and handling capabilities. I paid a local survey company $980.00 to do a 2 state random survey, They had 3 pics to choose from,
1) where the entire side was widened out for a slab side type look,
2) one where the widebody swept in to meet the doors,
3) and this Pic.
There were 4,000 people surveyed in 2 states Missouri, and Oklahoma
This Sig pic was the clear winner in the Random Un-partial votes.
Trust me, I have done the research, and Have been planning this for a long time. I want something that the majority Likes. And with any other project, The person that buys my kit, always hads the opportunity to customize their kit to suit their taste. My Design is simple Keep the fiero look, but make it More Exotic, and offer it at a good price. and Trust me when you see this in person, You WILL WANT ONE.............
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FieroX here you go,

I didnt change the color, The quality of your picture is very bad, so I did the best I could do with what you provided me.
get me a better quality pic to work with and Il can give you a better photoshop... and its a white car, Dont take the pic in full sun, Take it later in the evening at dusk, so the definition will be defined on your car . FieroX So whats the hold up on painting your car? Im only 3 hours away, Bring it down drop it off and Ill give you a killer paint job..I have a huge portfolio of my work Bring it down Ill giver you a Forum Discount.

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Given your background, you should look at providing the choptop service as well. Have you considered it with your kit? If I were to get one, I would like it done all at once, would save alot of hastle.

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Report this Post06-10-2005 09:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroXSend a Private Message to fieroXDirect Link to This Post
Jigsaw, the holdup is my engine/tranny. Ive had it apart probably 7 times in the last year trying to get everything to hold together. Stuff gets pretty shady when you put down 477 hp and 515 torque at the wheels. I dont want to get it all finished up then have to pull it back apart again and risk messing up the paint job.

As for having it painted, I do body work and paint, and have worked in shops for 7 years. Thanks for the offer though. I have some body work to finish up, and im having my friend bill that used to paint for the last shop i worked at do it for me. I traded him an old pontiac 455 for it, and as soon as I finish it up hes going to lay some spray.

You oughta come up for the KAFC bbq here in a few weeks. Look for the thread it should be here in the first few pages.

Talk to you later,

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so how is the wide body going??? really interested if your just thinking or actually in motion!
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