Wow .... what a big deal about nothing. I have one; how about "fixation' = abnormal pre-occupation with something most people don't care about. sounds like someone needs to get some therapy .....
Actually, I'm wondering what harold traded his CAR in for - that 308 with 3800 SC must have been a hard act to follow ...
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Rodney Member
Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
This similar to taking a GTO and putting Judge stickers on it and saying it is a Judge. The only way to get a Judge was to buy one new from a GM dealer. The only way to get a Mera was to buy it new from GM. You can not take a GTO and turn it into a real Judge and you can not take a kit car and turn it into a real Mera. Same thing.
I am not arguing the quality of this car or anything like that. I only want to protect and preserve the heritage of the 247 real Mera's. I don't feel the general public should start to think that any 308 or even any 328 kit car was a Mera.
Rodney Dickman Mera Registry
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Rodney Member
Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
I would be happy to see anyone with a 308 or 328 kit use the relation of the Mera to their kit car. 308 and 328 kit cars exist today because of the creation of the Mera. Molds were made off of original Meras to create 308 and 328 kit cars. If this ad stated this was a kit car and that it was a repica of a "rare" Mera and these relationship was told I would be more than happy to supply any info to any interested buyer. As it was stated in the ebay ad it was misleading.
I'm new here and not familiar with this car at all. I read the entire ad and came away with the impression that it is not a true Mera, but rather just uses the same body.
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Rodney Member
Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
I knew Bob Bracey also, I never heard him defending his work like you are. The one time, that he had a good chance to defend the Mera was when Ferrari was trying to shut it down. Bob didn't defend the Mera then, he just took all the money he had made & moved on.
Not true. There were several court apperances. I have also talked to the lawyer who defended him. In the long run Ferrari had no right to shut him down as Ferrari had no copyright on the 308 body style. TThey were able to make him stop because they had the ability to file so many motions that it was no longer worth the costs to fight. This is how Ferrari attacks most kit car manufacturers.
It was in the letter with the car. I think the owner may have had some bad info because I have received another email saying it is not. I will make sure and imform everyone it may not be, but I dont see what difference it makes - its a KIT CAR! Thanks, and have a good day.
(817)202-5844 (817)992-8068 Robert & Julie Clark Cleburne Motorsports 617 North Main Street Cleburne, Texas 76033[/quote]
Pretty much says it all. The new owner isn't perturbed a bit. A more applicable question to have asked him may have been-"Did you buy this car believing it was one of 247 or believing it was a replica of a 308?"
And another question, tho some will view it as being moot. Since the term 'rare' seems to be paramount in this discussion, which is more rare? This one of a kind- or one of the 247?
Semantics-much ado about nothing.
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blakeinspace Member
Posts: 5923 From: Fort Worth, Texas Registered: Dec 2001
I sure was sad to learn you had sold your ride. How one can put so much of themselves into a car, and then move on is out of my realm of thinking... but I see people who build kit planes do the same thing. Build it, make it beautiful, fly it a few times, and then move on... I hope all your projects turn out just as good. maybe just less frustrating.
Hopefully the next owner will appreciate all the work you have done, but unless they are a true Fiero enthusiast... I doubt they can realize all the cussing you did (and Loyde for that matter) that wen't into making that care beautiful.
I just wanted to say, as it may be a while before our paths can cross again... that your treatment on the rear deck, is amazing. I followed that build-up thread, and I have never seen a scoop setup that I like better. Hope it goes to a good PFF home.... hope my wife doesn't find out I just bid $9000.xx with money I don't have on a car I don't need.
I also noticed JScott made the ebay add! He's standing next to Strickers Finale. If you find your way back into Fiero's someday, stop into a NTFC meet and say hello!
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I also noticed JScott made the ebay add! He's standing next to Strickers Finale.
How did I miss that? I have been showing this auction to non-fiero people all day as an example of one of the finest 308 kits in existence. Now I realize my likeness is being used without my permission Or is it just a replica of me, splashed from my actual body? Or did they include an image of me to pump up a sell?
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How did I miss that? I have been showing this auction to non-fiero people all day as an example of one of the finest 308 kits in existence. Now I realize my likeness is being used without my permission Or is it just a replica of me, splashed from my actual body? Or did they include an image of me to pump up a sell?
J, you are too much!! That's hilarious...you've been splashed!
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Wholf Member
Posts: 379 From: Cleburne, Texas Registered: Mar 2003
Hey all, thanks for the compliments.. I too wonder how I was able to let her go, but it was a decision that made sense at the time, and really still does. It was suppose to of been my retirement project, but heck I don't retire for 8 more years . When I do retire, I plan on another one(not the same body), but truly custom staying with the Fiero theme. I apologize to everyone for getting a little rampant in some of the earlier posts, but I am just a little tired of all of this. It is not my car anymore, and if the new owner mistook or misunderstood what was conveyed, then that is on him. I don't appreciate being attacked any more then the next guy. This all started months ago on ARI's site when I first started trying to sell it. 308 and Mera were only used as a discription of the body style - Nothing more, nothing less, and I refused to change my discription. Anyway, I am not going to say anything more on this(hopefully). I think we all ought to just keep an eye on the bid and hope someone off of Pennocks wins. On another note, I have a copy of the authorization signed by Jonathan Scott authorizing the splash off of his shell to use in my picture .... Notice how he was caught in full stare, kind of like a deer in the headlights. Everyone take care, and lets root for a PFF member to win the 3800GT, keep her in the family!!
On the auction the seller noted a problem with the transmission. Does this sound unusual or is it something that would be easy to adjust/repair?
Its not a problem with the transmission. Its the shifter selector bell crank assembly. The shifter inside the car is the stock Fiero shift selector. When I did the conversion WCF had sent me one of the very early prototype bell crank shift converters they sell. They offered to replace Harolds since it never functioned correctly, but it was one of those things that never got replaced. The transmission was 100% fine the last time I drove the car.
Loyde
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
On another note, I have a copy of the authorization signed by Jonathan Scott authorizing the splash off of his shell to use in my picture .... Notice how he was caught in full stare, kind of like a deer in the headlights.
Simple. The confusion is... you and Rodney think the car is being advertised as a Mera, when it is not.
Nowhere in that auction does it state the car is a Mera.
He calls it a "Mera Body" because all 308 kits are splashed off the Mera.
The car is being advertised as a 308 Kit Car.
Yes it is poor choice of words, but the fact is... it's not being advertised as a Mera.
My first post in this thread quotes his add where he calls it an extremely rare Mera body. Not a copy of a Mera, but an actual Mera body.
Look, I could care less about this, other than I agree with the assessment that this guy is representing this car in such a way as to make people think it's a Mera. It's not a Mera. Whether a Mera is special or not is irrelevant. Someone can call it a Mera all they want, it's not.
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
I can appreciate both sides of this. If the body was splashed from a Mera, then using that word describes the style of body. But saying it has a "Mera body" sounds like it has a body from a Mera.
How about this analogy: I have a 1998 Pontiac Firebird with the rare Firehawk body. What does that make you think I have? If you bought that car and found out it was a Firebird with copies of Firehawk body panels, would you care? Some people might.
It's not about whether or not a Mera is a kit car - that's a totally different debate. But the fact is that there were very few cars built with the Mera name. It's important that a buyer who may not be as educated about the product as you may be understands the difference between a Mera and a 308 kit splashed from a Mera.
It's just like I take exception to people calling an 88 coupe with a V6 swap a Formula. Even if it's made mechanically identical to a Formula, it's not a "real" Formula and doesn't have the VIN to back it up. If you're a collector, that matters.
Good luck on the auction, Archie! An LS6 would look really nice in there!!
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I say if someone buys this car thinking it's a Mera then #1 they have too much money and not enough brains. and #2 Are lazy not to do any home work before making a purchase. AND LAST #3 would actually be happier owning this car rather than a real Mera.
My reasons of thinking this are as follows. This car is much faster Actually being as fast as it looks. This car has a much nicer interior. This car probibly has much smoother body panels, and paint than any Mera could dream of having. If I do remember a quote from the painter "This car is smoother than any High end car I've ever painted"
Just to explain this car and the meticulous work put into it. #1 If it could be done better IT WAS #2 If it could be aligned better IT WAS #3 if it could be painted and rust proofed IT WAS #4 if it could be insulated and made quieter IT WAS #5 if it was worn IT WAS REPLACED #6 if it made it look good IT WAS DONE #7 All body lines are PERFECT #8 Even the FUEL DOOR took 14 1/2 HOURS to PERFECT!!! #9 I think this car is better built than even a Ferarri 308 #10 if you don't Like it Piss Off and quit bashing the PREVIOUS OWNER! #11 If you buy it DON'T TELL RODNEY!
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Fire451 Member
Posts: 314 From: British columbia, Canada Registered: Sep 2002
Okay, I think that this car deserves this ad description:
Authentic Merareplica
Ever wanted a Mera?? This car is what you want! Corporate Concepts designed this beauty for GM and now YOU have can be a part of history and own one just as gorgeous. This car would make the Corporate Concepts designers cream in their pants. Heck, this car would even make Enzo proud!...
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Rodney Member
Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
I asked the car lot guy to fax me a copy of that "letter" he recieved with this car. They never did. They did though go and add a disclaimer on the ebay auction to point out that this is not a real Mera.
OMG, I just spit Dr.Pepper all over my monitor and keyboard.................. As I said, Rodney has something personal against me or the car I built, but you know what?? "I DON"T CARE" And don't feel bad Rodney, he didn't even answer my email about verifying what I wrote.... So I am sure he took a little liberty with the discription, but hey! YOU SAVED THE DAY!! Now can we return to normal programming, because some of you were having way to much fun with all of this Everyone take care- - - - - - -> [slipping back into the shadows]
Edited for this late breaking news... I just got home and was able to access E-Bay and this is what the seller actually posted on E-Bay: "Hello Bidders! OK just so everyone knows, I actually misread a piece info on the brand of the body. This kit was molded from a "Mera" body. This is a Custom Coach Craft fiberglass kit just as stated above. Sorry for any confusion. Thanks, and call me with any questions." Anybody see what I see? "MISREAD A PIECE OF INFO"... Rodney failed to mention that above. WHY! Because it shows I did not try to pitch my car as MERA (yech!). I am sure Rodney does not beleive that, and that is why he asked for a FAX.... Geeshh the lengths someone will go to, to try and prove they were right and discredit someone. Anyway I am glad it is all over, and once again the PFF members prevail Anybody taking bets as to wether Rodney apologizes for the "PERSONAL" attack on me...
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I just found out that the pic that I posted has striking resemblence to a certain member in this thread. I guess I would say sorry but I won't since it seems apropriate.
Man = ?????? Horse = Car
too funny.
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Rodney Member
Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
"About a month or so ago he had it for sale on this site: He used the Mera word in his description. I brought up the fact that this is a kit car and not a Mera. A long discussion on the use of the Mera word followed and he insisted he did not try to use the Mera word to make people think this was a real Mera. A few here posted that I was just trying to start trouble. I only want to protect the original Mera's and not allow kit car owners to pass off kit cars as real Mera's. Now I look at the ebay ad and it uses the Mera word and they make it sound like this is a true Mera. How terribly sad. Harold should be ashamed of himself.
I realize he does not own this car and someone else is selling it. But I have to think this new owner received all this information from Harold." End of Quote
Then you say:
"And who told this new owner all these Mera references? If Harold did not I will not say anything bad against Harold. Rare Mera Body? This body did not come off a real Mera. This is a kit car. " End of Quote..
Now all this crap started here http://www.kitcar.ca/yabbse/index.php?topic=4292.0 because I titled my sale as a 3800 GT Mera/308 Replica. You blew a gasket saying it was alright for me to sell my Kit Car(like I needed your permission), but don't use the Mera word. I guess that it never sunk in, and still hasn't, that no matter what it is a REPLICA of a MERA/308. That is all Mera is, is a replica of a 308. Nobody is dogging you for defending the 247 Mera's, but your annal hang up with me(for what ever reason) is the problem. You state in your post on ARI's and here that you will not say anything bad against me.... Re-read what you said- - - The friggin damage is already done. The crappy part of all of this is, is the guy admits he misread a piece of information, pretty much clearing me from your die hard intent that I needed to pump my car up as a Mera to of sold it. You were wrong on ARI's the first time around, and anyone who bothers to read it, will know why you came on here and started the same crap. Your intentions might of been good to begin with, but trying to put all the blame on me, was stupid.. You believed the seller with the reply to your email, saying "I" must of had some bad info... It was my car, how in the heck could I of had bad info.... Then to top it all of, he admits his mistake right there in the auction, but you don't believe him and request him to FAX you the actual letter.. Get a friggin life!! He still hasn't responded to my email questioning him, and you think he is going to FAX you the letter, SHHEEESH! It is called a mistake, and "he" made one. I tell you what if you want the actual letter, then go buy the car I knew there would be no apology for the accusations you made against me, no matter what happend. So I will try again to step out of all of this, and let the members form their own opinion of you and all of this.
I really do want to thank everyone out here that could read, and see what was happening while coming to my defense.... Hopefully this soap opera has ended.
Harold [Shadow, YO shadow where are you?]
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Rodney Member
Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
You state in your post on ARI's and here that you will not say anything bad against me....
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I am sure this is a very nice car and I have never once said anything to the contrary about it.
English 101. The use of the word it refers to an object. In this case it is your 308 kit car. "It" is never used to describe a person. I gave you a compliment on your very nice 308 kit car.
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PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Now I look at the ebay ad and it uses the Mera word and they make it sound like this is a true Mera. How terribly sad. Harold should be ashamed of himself.
And why should I be ashamed of myself? This is where you made it personal....
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And who do you think provided this information on this KIT CAR to this car dealer? Maybe he felt he could get a better price from this dealer if he spiced up his story some? This is very sad.
Spiced up my story some?? This is where you are dreaming and still attacking my character...
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Harold: where did this body come from and if it did not come from a real Mera why is this seller saying it did? Who supplied him with this Mera information then??
It clearly states in the auction that it is a Custom Coach Craft body, information provided by me.... Why he changed the wording is not my problem, but yet you still insist it is all my fault!
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Originally posted by Rodney: I have nothing against 308 and 328 kit cars. I love them. I have never bashed a 308 or 328 kit owner. I only speak up on this when I see information that is misleading against the real 247 Mera's produced. I don't see how that should offend anyone.
Still waiting Harold. Is this a real Mera body? If not who supplied this seller with this information?
This is just a bunch of Bull $hit, and now your trying to back peddle some(related to Kerry are we?). Just in your comments during this post you refer to the 308 rebodies as a "Kit Car", like it is some sort of dirty word. You have the balls to try and make something out of using the word Mera for a discription, yet you have your Mera all badged out as a real Ferrari.. Not only that you encourage other Mera and 308 rebody owners to purchase your Ferrari merchandise and stick the crap on their cars.
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I would be happy to see anyone with a 308 or 328 kit use the relation of the Mera to their kit car. 308 and 328 kit cars exist today because of the creation of the Mera. Molds were made off of original Meras to create 308 and 328 kit cars.
I call the BS flag on the first part of this because if it were true you would of never stuck your nose into my post on ARI's! I am sure by now everyone has read it, and agrees with me. The second part is about the only truthful thing you have said.... BUT! God forbid anyone using the word MERA to discribe the type of body style they have.
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I am not arguing the quality of this car or anything like that. I only want to protect and preserve the heritage of the 247 real Mera's. I don't feel the general public should start to think that any 308 or even any 328 kit car was a Mera.
I put my $hit waders on for this one because it is really getting deep! If your seriously interested in preserving the heritage of the Mera, then why in the hell do you have your Mera badged out as a Ferrari? Come on Rodney tell all of us the answer to this one! You don't want the public to think the car I built or any of the other people who have poured their heart, soul and pocket book into building a nice car to be mistaken for a MERA - - - - - - BUT! It is ok for you to make your MERA appear to be a "REAL 308" to the general public. I bet you have wet dreams when someone goes... "oooh look at that purty Ferrari" What a hyporcrite! Tell me something, have you ever ever thought of reproducing the MERA badging so people who are trying to restore a Mera, could????????? HMMMMM! Nope, but you will sure push the Ferrari stuff..
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Originally posted by Rodney: I am sure this is a very nice car and I have never once said anything to the contrary about it.
Except for "Kit Car" being a dirty word to you... True! But as I said this just goes to show you have something personal against me. I know it is because of the demand you made on ARI's and my refusal to change the obvious. The members shut you down because you weren't making any sense, and now your here trying for revenge, or some other demented pleasure.
Anyway, as the bouncing Icons show above, I am tired of all of this, and I am sure others are too. I know Rodney does a service for the Fiero community, but at what price?? How many other people has the great Rodney stepped on, but were afraid to speak up because of his reputation?? Sorry, but I don't play that game, and now that I have hopefully said all I NEED to say...... Good night!
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Rodney Member
Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
I have seen two copy V-8 Archies kits. Yet none advertise them as V-8 Archie kits or rare V-8 Archie kit or V-8/Archie kit etc. . I have seen many copy Meras to prodruce molds to make kit cars. I don't think one should be allowed to advertise a kit car as a 308/Mera kit or a "rare Mera body kit".
If I sold Hemi Cuda parts and acc's would people think I am hypocrtical because I have a highly modified Hemi Cuda?
I do sell reproduction Mera badging. They are available only to "real" Mera owners.
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Wholf Member
Posts: 379 From: Cleburne, Texas Registered: Mar 2003
I have seen many copy Meras to prodruce molds to make kit cars. I don't think one should be allowed to advertise a kit car as a 308/Mera kit or a "rare Mera body kit".
If I sold Hemi Cuda parts and acc's would people think I am hypocrtical because I have a highly modified Hemi Cuda?
I do sell reproduction Mera badging. They are available only to "real" Mera owners.
Damn you don't know when to give up, do you! Lets talk about the first part of your quote... I did not advertise it as a 308/Mera kit, the exact title was "3800 GT Mera/308 Replica for Quick Sale" Don't believe me click here and read.. http://www.kitcar.ca/yabbse/index.php?topic=4292.0 Talk about english 101.. Can you read that Rodney? IT SAYS REPLICA!!! I know you can't be that dense, and thats what everyone was trying to tell you, REPLICA, REPLICA, ... Is it starting to sink in yet? Tell me it is not a replica of the Mera, and 308 Body, and then we will sit back and watch everyone laugh their butts off at you.
For the second part.. Yes if you ran around doing what your doing here, I would call you a hypocrite. And for your information you have a modified FIERO, and that MODIFICATION, happens to be a BODY KIT=== KIT CAR!!!! Is it original? Nope... You badged it out as a Ferrari, WHY? Its kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, but for some reason, you just don't get it. Whats good for the goose isn't good for the gander. Do us all a favor and stop this crap, you are really starting to look foolish. And on the very last part of your comment... I raise the BS flag... You don't build a car like I built, and not get responses from original Mera owners, along with kit car builders, so I know first hand what your position is on that. Go to bed Rodney, you really need your rest....
Harold
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Posts: 5392 From: Tacoma, WA, USA Registered: Mar 2002
I have seen two copy V-8 Archies kits. Yet none advertise them as V-8 Archie kits or rare V-8 Archie kit or V-8/Archie kit etc. . I have seen many copy Meras to prodruce molds to make kit cars. I don't think one should be allowed to advertise a kit car as a 308/Mera kit or a "rare Mera body kit".
If I sold Hemi Cuda parts and acc's would people think I am hypocrtical because I have a highly modified Hemi Cuda?
I do sell reproduction Mera badging. They are available only to "real" Mera owners.
So why are you selling Ferrari badging to Mera owners? Double standard? Protecting the value of a cheap copy of an italian car? The Mera was a wink wink nudge nudge rebody stealing the 308 body style and you have proven it rebadging your vehicle AS a Ferrari. Then you show it off as a true Mera, yet it doesn't have stock engine, badges etc... if the vehicle was so valuable as a Mera, you would have destroyed it's value, but it's value is that it looks like a 308 and it was a turnkey kitcar. A rebody is a rebody, doesn't matter if it was sold through a dealership or someone commissioned it or built it themselves. Your Mera is a kitcar bought assembled. I'm curious what the brand/model of vehicle is on the title?
BTW if you sold Hemi Cuda parts and were trying to pass off a fiero rebody as a Hemi Cuda, you'd be just as much a hypocrite... just sillier looking. Thing is that you are selling Ferrari replica parts and you don't have a highly modified Ferrari. You have a highly modified Fiero that looks pretty darn similar to a Ferrari bodywise.
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Scott-Wa Member
Posts: 5392 From: Tacoma, WA, USA Registered: Mar 2002
Oh and Harold... sorry to hear you decided to let your car go, it's sweet. Hope you enjoy the Mustang.
Thanks a bunch, I have enjoyed the Mustang, but it is fixing to go too.... For some reason I can't keep the pedal from the metal, and I can't afford anymore speeding tickets. Mustangs attract Cops like honey to a bee Check your rating.... a plus for you!
Harold
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Scott-Wa Member
Posts: 5392 From: Tacoma, WA, USA Registered: Mar 2002
Thanks a bunch, I have enjoyed the Mustang, but it is fixing to go too.... For some reason I can't keep the pedal from the metal, and I can't afford anymore speeding tickets. Mustangs attract Cops like honey to a bee Check your rating.... a plus for you!
Harold
Thanks... I know from experience how mustangs attract police... especially when your in a cherry looking 66 coupe with chrome traction bars and cragars :-) The 289 on NOS pumping over 500hp might have had something to due with it also...
I haven't been pulled over in my New Yorker (Turbo2.2) or even in my 79 Camaro (straight 6/3 speed manual). I would get pulled over in the Mustang regularly for 5mph over while travelling slower than traffic and get verbal warnings followed by all sorts of questions about the car.
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Posts: 111 From: Westerville, Oh., USA Registered: Jan 2005
So why are you selling Ferrari badging to Mera owners? Double standard? Protecting the value of a cheap copy of an italian car? The Mera was a wink wink nudge nudge rebody stealing the 308 body style and you have proven it rebadging your vehicle AS a Ferrari. Then you show it off as a true Mera, yet it doesn't have stock engine, badges etc... if the vehicle was so valuable as a Mera, you would have destroyed it's value, but it's value is that it looks like a 308 and it was a turnkey kitcar. A rebody is a rebody, doesn't matter if it was sold through a dealership or someone commissioned it or built it themselves. Your Mera is a kitcar bought assembled. I'm curious what the brand/model of vehicle is on the title?
I am the third owner of my 88 Mera. The second owner changed the badging and did some modifications. Irregardless of the level of the modifications to this 88 Mera it is still an 88 Mera.
My 88 Mera has the original engine but I did add the Design I turbo to it. I do know of severel Mera's that have had engine changes. They are still a Mera though.
In the future my 88 Mera could be returned to stock as it is a real Mera.
The fact that I sell some items to Mera AND kit car owners has no part in a discussion on the use of the word Mera in selling a kit car. Why does every one want to deviate from the reason we are having this discussion?
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For the second part.. Yes if you ran around doing what your doing here, I would call you a hypocrite. And for your information you have a modified FIERO, and that MODIFICATION, happens to be a BODY KIT=== KIT CAR!!!! Is it original? Nope... You badged it out as a Ferrari,
Several years ago we had a reunion in Detroit and at the Corporate Concepts factory where they were built. When we there they showed us a few books on cars that listed the Mera as a production car. These listings showed what company built them, the years they were manufactured and a short description of them. So history will show that the Mera was a short run specialty production car. No kit car will ever have this distinction.
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Thank you. Just out of curiosity – who gave you the information that this was a “rare Mera body kit”?
Thank you Rodney Dickman
It was in the letter with the car. I think the owner may have had some bad info because I have received another email saying it is not.
I think this says it all. He admits this information was in that letter that was supplied with this car. Who supplied this letter with this car? Maybe someone else?
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You don't build a car like I built, and not get responses from original Mera owners, along with kit car builders,
This statement is irrelevant to the discussion of using the Mera name in advertising a kit car for sale.
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Rodney Member
Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
This all could have been an honest mistake. Since this happened after the discussion on Ari's site about the use of the Mera word in selling a kit car I could only hope that when this car was listed on ebay at a later date that the ad was written correctly. It was not. I could have only asked that you would go out of your way to not let this happen. If this seller would have sent this description he used on ebay to you to preview before listing this car on ebay and if you would have made the changes to it as needed this would not have happened. My intent is to only correct any misinformation on the Pontiac Meras. If you had started this discussion stating some information on this ebay ad is misleading or wrong I would have been happy to see it was corrected.
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07:52 AM
Wholf Member
Posts: 379 From: Cleburne, Texas Registered: Mar 2003
Rodney the one thing you keep failing to understand is that I have not had that car for almost 3 months. The individual assured me it would not be sold local, and it was either going to California, or Florida to the auctions(he was concerned about my reluctance to sell/trade). Why he still has the car I don't know, but apparently it was to finish what needed done, like the paint. The man had no clue about Fiero's or Mera's. During our discussion I informed him of the history of the car, provided a video of the build up, and we discussed the body and how it was splashed from a Mera... I did the letter up, and I can assure you what he put out on ebay is not "exactly" what I put in the letter... That is why he has not answered my emails, or would fax you a copy. I can only guess since he had a hard time believing GM would damn near duplicate a Ferrari body, and sell it to the US public, the infamous MERA stuck in his brain. He did not come to me, and I did not even know he still had the car. I know he is usually gone during the week transporting vehicles between DFW and Houston to auctions. I also did not start this topic, FastFieros did, and I had no intentions of even posting until you started trying to blame me for the owners misrepresentation of the actual body, which by the way clearly states it was a Custom Coach Craft Body. It was not my business, and really still isn't. The man received my email and I am pretty sure numerous other ones from people who knew the car... They set him straight, and he put the disclaimer on the Auction... That should of been the end of it, but you kept coming back trying to make it appear that I had something to do with it. Well I didn't, and I damn sure did not have to pump my car up as a MERA to sell it. I hope you relize I did not have to respond to any of this, but since you seemed to make it personal against me, I had no choice but to set the record straight... Good Day Rodney!
Harold
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10:08 AM
GTFiero1 Member
Posts: 6508 From: Camden County NJ Registered: Sep 2001