Let's get a list up of TRUE RICER mods... "The Whistler" Exhaust attachment to sound like a turbo Recorded blow off valve sound Exhaust tips that you stick onto the side of your car to look like sidemounted duelies... i'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting... But as a few of you know, I'm starting a nitrous oxide setup in my Fiero and I was looking for a purge kit on E-Bay and I came across this...
Selling for $175-$200!!! For that much , you could go out and make your own functioning N20 kit for your car and have a REAL purging effect!
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EDIT: Question for those Minnesota people "in the know": Is running Nitrous in a car on the street in MN illegal or not? Maybe Fierohoho can shed some light on this ------------------ '86 2.8L Bottle-Fed In Progress... '86 2.5L turbo put to sleep
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doublec4 Member
Posts: 8289 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2003
I don't see why people want to fake stuff so bad. Sure a few people will believe it but when someone finds out its fake it just makes your car look like that much more of a P.O.S.
Double decker wings, huge exhaust tips and underbody neon was considered rice here a few years back. Now it is seen on Fieros and its not rice anymore.
Its just a matter of time till some fiero owners do this and then its no longer rice. It will then be "someone elses money to spend how they want" or whatever else excuse to give to satisfy the masses here so one doesnt' get neg ratings. Hey, just calling it how I see it. Mark my words this day.
Double decker wings, huge exhaust tips and underbody neon was considered rice here a few years back. Now it is seen on Fieros and its not rice anymore.
Its just a matter of time till some fiero owners do this and then its no longer rice. It will then be "someone elses money to spend how they want" or whatever else excuse to give to satisfy the masses here so one doesnt' get neg ratings. Hey, just calling it how I see it. Mark my words this day.
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Racingman24 Member
Posts: 2304 From: Land of 10,000 Idiots Registered: Apr 2003
I'm down with allot of stuff many here would just call rice.
I will call out some ghey ricer mod on anyone though. Some stuff is just so pointless and tacky its scarey. I really don't see allot of that crap around on the streets though.
Worst I see around here is way oversized or way too many wings...
I see allot of free flow exhaust/intaked otherwise stock imports thinking they are fast... Allot of them are pretty quick and ive lost some an won most . I dont understand why these peoples cars that fit into this catagory, are called rice if they add on...... a nice wing, good system, wheels, free exhaust an intake.
What most people here dont seem to think of, is that the fiero is by somes definition.... Riced up and a half from the factory.
great retort from someone supposedly so intelligent.
Just answer the question. Am I wrong? Were big wings and such considered Rice on here several years ago but now its not cause its made its way onto fieros? Its a simple question
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Fastback 86 Member
Posts: 7849 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Sep 2003
To answer your question, I still think they're rice, on Fieros or not. The reason I told you to shut up is that Oslo didn't ask for any opinions on any part of his car, he made a comment on useless poser junk. Wings are at least semi functional. The stock Fiero wing was designed for the real Indy Pace car and created 300lbs of down force at 130mph. Large exhaust means freer flowing, though fart cans cancel the effect. Under body neons I could make a case for too, but it would just be stupid. The stuff Oslo posted is just junk for people who can't afford real mods but are desperate to look cool because their car is permanently intertwined with thier ego as well as their wallet. I agree with what doublec4 posted. Faking mods is just retarded. Trying to improve the looks of your car is in the eye of the beholder.
Hey, just calling it how I see it. Mark my words this day.
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fieroX Member
Posts: 5234 From: wichita, Ks Registered: Oct 2001
Just answer the question. Am I wrong? Were big wings and such considered Rice on here several years ago but now its not cause its made its way onto fieros? Its a simple question
steve
Before you go attacking personal friends, let me ask YOU some questions. How long have you been around? You've already had 187 ratings, and it looks like most are negs. That's quite a few for that name in one month. I know that I don't like you. You insult others, which is not the way to do things on a forum like this, that is built on trust and friendships.
Secondly, when has this forum ever been different than the old, "To each their own" approach? I think you better hit the archives again, and bone up on some PFF history.
Tick tock, tick tock, time is running out Steve. This message is being brought to you by your friendly "stalker". I noTiced your dance card is almost all full...of Red.
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stimpy Member
Posts: 8197 From: Salinas, CA Registered: Jan 2000
great retort from someone supposedly so intelligent.
Just answer the question. Am I wrong? Were big wings and such considered Rice on here several years ago but now its not cause its made its way onto fieros? Its a simple question
steve
I totally agree Shau..err..Steve. I would say the same thing. However I don't have a low post count and flashing red bar, so I probably wouldn't bat an eyelash by saying it. You are a funny guy, and you do have some knowledge. I just can't figure out why you like to keep getting banned...
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RadRuss Member
Posts: 449 From: Ft. Myers, FL Registered: Sep 2001
ok think what u want but i thought that was the coolest scene in 2fast was when the skyline pulled up and purged. i wanted to recreate that for my car but didnt know how to, only reason was because i am making my a show car for the import scene and wanted diff things to draw attention. i know u may say im gay. i mean i am putting the v8 in so why not confuse the kids even more. i dont know, i still think its a cool thing cuz i dont want to spend 500 to get nos ony to have to fill the tank cuz i would never shoot it.
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Flyguyeddy Member
Posts: 568 From: pekin, Il USA Registered: Dec 2003
when the skyline pulled up to the line he probably purged about half of his bottle out showing off
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Pyrthian Member
Posts: 29569 From: Detroit, MI Registered: Jul 2002
Let's get a list up of TRUE RICER mods... "The Whistler" Exhaust attachment to sound like a turbo Recorded blow off valve sound Exhaust tips that you stick onto the side of your car to look like sidemounted duelies... i'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting... But as a few of you know, I'm starting a nitrous oxide setup in my Fiero and I was looking for a purge kit on E-Bay and I came across this...
Selling for $175-$200!!! For that much , you could go out and make your own functioning N20 kit for your car and have a REAL purging effect!
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EDIT: Question for those Minnesota people "in the know": Is running Nitrous in a car on the street in MN illegal or not? Maybe Fierohoho can shed some light on this
LOL steve... I WAS going to respond to you, but I think it's already been covered...
Radduss- I am building my own N20 kit for my 2.8 and It's just about complete. My total bill will be just under $200 for the entire thing (Remote bottle opener, pressure regulated heater, purge kit, complete wet kit, bottle blanket...) The point is, that it's stupid to spend the same amount of money, or more, on something fake.
Now if you take a look at the above pic again, you can see that it's nearly a complete nitrous kit as it is! All you would need is about $75 in parts (N2O & Fuel solenoids, nitrous lines, fogger nozzle, and a switch...) to make a basic wet kit. Odd how someone could be so close to the real thing but STILL rather buy it simply for looks...
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MiZer Member
Posts: 1673 From: Chilliwack, B.C. Canada Registered: Jun 2003
Steve who? I tend to ignore Red Bar posts as a matter of course.
As for the the Rice thing. This really doesn't surprise me. Ever since the fake turbo for as much as the cost of a REAL turbo I have lost the ability to be shocked by human stupidity. I'm just waiting for the fake sound of a 4 second dragster that you can add to your sewing machine powered Acura to "really impress" your friends.
Before you go attacking personal friends, let me ask YOU some questions. How long have you been around? You've already had 187 ratings, and it looks like most are negs. That's quite a few for that name in one month. I know that I don't like you. You insult others, which is not the way to do things on a forum like this, that is built on trust and friendships.
Secondly, when has this forum ever been different than the old, "To each their own" approach? I think you better hit the archives again, and bone up on some PFF history.
Originally posted by Oslo: EDIT: Question for those Minnesota people "in the know": Is running Nitrous in a car on the street in MN illegal or not? Maybe Fierohoho can shed some light on this
Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Am I good to go? Or am I going to have to go out of state for a N2O refill?
ok think what u want but i thought that was the coolest scene in 2fast was when the skyline pulled up and purged. i wanted to recreate that for my car but didnt know how to, only reason was because i am making my a show car for the import scene and wanted diff things to draw attention. i know u may say im gay. i mean i am putting the v8 in so why not confuse the kids even more. i dont know, i still think its a cool thing cuz i dont want to spend 500 to get nos ony to have to fill the tank cuz i would never shoot it.
Hmm looks like we have our first fiero owner putting it on his car. Wow Oslo you just called it a Ricer mod and now you have someone saying they want to do it.
Like I said before too long it wont' be considered rice on this board anymore cause its on a Fiero. If its on any other car though its rice. What,one person answered my question. Everyone else seems more concerend with my ratings bar. I guess someone has to be though
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fieroman87 Member
Posts: 647 From: Lancaster, PA Registered: Nov 2003
My buddy runs Nos in his car (93 Mazda RX7) and he has never had any troubles with the local law here in Brainerd MN. There are many cars runing here with Nos and there even is a couple stores here that do re-fills on the bottles. So I dont think its illegal.
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FastIndyFiero Member
Posts: 2546 From: Wichita, KS Registered: Aug 2002
Originally posted by atwrk: There are many cars runing here with Nos and there even is a couple stores here that do re-fills on the bottles. So I dont think its illegal.
atwrk, you have a PM!
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Originally posted by stevegibbs: Hmm looks like we have our first fiero owner putting it on his car. Wow Oslo you just called it a Ricer mod and now you have someone saying they want to do it.
Did anyone say it wasn't rice then? I went on to say that it would be a better idea to just install a real N2O kit... If you're faking a real performance mod... It's rice. Period.
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Originally posted by stevegibbs: Like I said before too long it wont' be considered rice on this board anymore cause its on a Fiero. If its on any other car though its rice. What,one person answered my question. Everyone else seems more concerend with my ratings bar. I guess someone has to be though
The attitude of this board has gone from: "All mods from F&F are stupid and are rice!" to: "Live and let live... It's your car, do what you want with it..." to: "There's a difference between rice and modding your car. Rice is fake, non-functional performance 'look-alikes'. Modding is cool and self-expression" Do you notice the progression of thought here? Acceptance and understanding. Just because a Fiero has the same wing as a Honda in a movie does not make it rice. Just because a Fiero has a different front bumper than what you're used to, does not make it rice.
Rice is fake crap! Rice is poser $hit! Rice is something someone does to their car to create the illusion of a performance modification that it does not posess! The wing on my car is not "Ghey" stevegibbs, the air dam on my Fiero is not stupid, and the giant intake scoops on the side are not rice. You are simply a closed minded fool that can not be mature enough to keep alive on a public forum for more than 2 months.
Do us all a favor and talk $hit some more and get yourself banned.
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DotTC Member
Posts: 2345 From: Hamlet, North Carolina Registered: Nov 2003
I've been wondering the same thing for quite some time. Don't think so, but who knows.
You're FastIndy on the chat? I seen the Engel and it hit me, I know that name
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The attitude of this board has gone from: "All mods from F&F are stupid and are rice!" to: "Live and let live... It's your car, do what you want with it..." to: "There's a difference between rice and modding your car. Rice is fake, non-functional performance 'look-alikes'. Modding is cool and self-expression" Do you notice the progression of thought here? Acceptance and understanding. Just because a Fiero has the same wing as a Honda in a movie does not make it rice. Just because a Fiero has a different front bumper than what you're used to, does not make it rice.
Rice is fake crap! Rice is poser $hit! Rice is something someone does to their car to create the illusion of a performance modification that it does not posess! The wing on my car is not "Ghey" stevegibbs, the air dam on my Fiero is not stupid, and the giant intake scoops on the side are not rice. You are simply a closed minded fool that can not be mature enough to keep alive on a public forum for more than 2 months.
Do us all a favor and talk $hit some more and get yourself banned.
I am not talking sh!t. I am speaking the truth. You are right. That fake nitrous purge is rice. But now RadRuss in this thread is talking about installing it on his car. So my point is and read carefully, ONCE A FEW FIERO PEOPLE START PUTTING THIS MOD ON THEIR FIERO, IT WILL NO LONGER BE RICE BECAUSE IT IS ON A FIERO. And according to you it will go through that "progression" stage of it being rice to as you put it,
"There's a difference between rice and modding your car. Rice is fake, non-functional performance 'look-alikes'. Modding is cool and self-expression"
You as well as many others will change your tune from calling it rice now to it not being rice as soon as it hits a Fiero owners car. Why can't it already be a form of self expression with that fake nitrous like your double decker wing is a form of self expression? Why is a fake nitrous purge rice, but a big double decker wing on a fiero is a form of self expression? Why isn't the fake purge a form of self expression as well?
Just like the Big double decker wings were rice a while back and now they are a form of self expression.
That is my point!!! And sorry but its a pretty good one.
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GTFiero1 Member
Posts: 6508 From: Camden County NJ Registered: Sep 2001
not really. it doesnt do anything for performance. Your windows arent sealed up like a rally car, you can put them down for air flow, or you can push the vent button on your dash.
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Posts: 621 From: Hartland, ME, USA Registered: Nov 2002
So, the Jumbo size Reddi-whip can connected via garden hose to the intake tube is rice?? DAMN!!! Are the 17" hubcaps that I have duct-taped to my factory 14" wheels rice?? DAMN!!! What about the 9" TV-VCR combo that I duct-taped to my dash, is it I.C.E or rice?? DAMN!!!
I think most of the people on this forum know the difference between rice and modding. There is some truth in Steves statement, but I don't think that the fake nitrous purge kit or the blow off valve speaker are ever going to be considered anything other than rice.
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Maetrix66 Member
Posts: 621 From: Hartland, ME, USA Registered: Nov 2002
Whoever is making thier own nitrous kit, can you let me know where you are getting the tanks and stuff, I am interested in making a N-tercooler for my fiero, but I don't want to buy a 500 dollar kit to do it.
Whoever is making thier own nitrous kit, can you let me know where you are getting the tanks and stuff, I am interested in making a N-tercooler for my fiero, but I don't want to buy a 500 dollar kit to do it.
What turbo kit are you running or is it a homebrew? what sized turbo you using?
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derangedsheep Member
Posts: 3089 From: Myerstown, PA Registered: Mar 2003
stevegibbs is right. ex. you guys call big ass exhaust tips rice, but ive seen a few fieros here with big ass tips and then all of a sudden its awesome. or what about the guys that have added aluminum wigns to their fieros? most any other car would be called rice, but on the fiero theres no problem with it. theres sort of a double standard going on here...
accually, im quite partial to some of these so called 'rice mods' i like big honkin exhaust tips (within reason) with that low growl that you can feel in the pit of your stomach. i like aluminum wings, altezza lights and huge rims. if i didnt have a fiero, i would be driving a Civic EX with exhaust, intake and all that stuff. to each his (or her) own
i probably shouldnt be doing this because i know ill get negs from it, but i dont really care. free speech, dont bash people for their opinions.
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Looks like steve finally got what he came here for...
Thanks Cliff - you've made the forum a better place!
deranged... while I certainly don't share Steve's need to judge other people - or the belief that a stock '84 is all the more car anyone should ever need - you did get one statement right...
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...free speech, dont bash people for their opinions.
which was exactly what Steve didn't understand.
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Originally posted by GTFiero1: not really. it doesnt do anything for performance. Your windows arent sealed up like a rally car, you can put them down for air flow, or you can push the vent button on your dash.
Adam - sorry, but I still disagree with you on this one (and agree with "X")... a scoop that is designed for a specific function and is utilized for that function - is functional
deranged, I think you're missing the point I've been trying to get across to stevegibbs since he started posting under that name. Its not what you say, its how you say it. I, personally, don't like the wing on Oslo's car either, but I don't call it a "ghey" ugly rice POS every chance I get. Now its my opinion that it does not look good, and I will state that. The people who come off with thier arrogant, holier-than-thou attitude that mouth off to everyone then cry matyrdom when the get flamed are the ones everyone hates and get banned.
stevegibbs is right. ex. you guys call big ass exhaust tips rice, but ive seen a few fieros here with big ass tips and then all of a sudden its awesome. or what about the guys that have added aluminum wigns to their fieros? most any other car would be called rice, but on the fiero theres no problem with it. theres sort of a double standard going on here...
accually, im quite partial to some of these so called 'rice mods' i like big honkin exhaust tips (within reason) with that low growl that you can feel in the pit of your stomach. i like aluminum wings, altezza lights and huge rims. if i didnt have a fiero, i would be driving a Civic EX with exhaust, intake and all that stuff. to each his (or her) own
i probably shouldnt be doing this because i know ill get negs from it, but i dont really care. free speech, dont bash people for their opinions.
This I believe is one of the major downsides to the ratings system. People are afraid to even hint that they don't like a mod on someones Fiero because it may give the impression they are knocking it. So when you see a Civic with an aluminum wing a lot of people call it rice and a few say they like it, but when its on a Fiero the people who originally said they didn't like it stay quiet and you only see the few posting who like it. You get people less inclined to speak what is on their minds in fear of the negative rating.
This I believe is one of the major downsides to the ratings system. People are afraid to even hint that they don't like a mod on someones Fiero because it may give the impression they are knocking it. So when you see a Civic with an aluminum wing a lot of people call it rice and a few say they like it, but when its on a Fiero the people who originally said they didn't like it stay quiet and you only see the few posting who like it. You get people less inclined to speak what is on their minds in fear of the negative rating.
I don't think that a large number of negatives are earned by people simply "not liking" such-and-such a mod on a car - they are given to those who have an extremely negative way of presenting their opinions. *see Fastback 86's post above*
Like Steve as an example... instead of simply stating that he doesn't like Oslo's wing, he feels the need to bash anyone that doesn't share his pure hatred for things that he doesn't like. Need more examples? I've got a few links stored up!
