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Custom Paint (Pearls, please) by tjfennel
Started on: 08-19-2003 04:15 AM
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Report this Post08-21-2003 11:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ThaFieroMunkSend a Private Message to ThaFieroMunkDirect Link to This Post
Ok I've been starting to wonder, does my paint job have pearl in it? I'm asking for those expert opinions on it. It was tonight that I looked at the car when the sun was heading down and the way it just shined nicely in the sun made me think. This pic is probably the best recreation of what I think I was seeing today. Experts???

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since when did fastbacks come with lugauge racks?!

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since when did fastbacks come with lugauge racks?!

~Mark

LMAO, believe me, I've only seen 2 other cars with it. No one has been able to figure out really how rare it is. I'm thinking it was a dealer option. I guess they didn't want a wing but wanted extra storage capacity? I think it looks good and unique.

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not going to be able to tell from a photo. You have to see it under direct light or sunlight to tell. It looks like a OEM color, so Id guess its not unless someone added it during a repaint.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

Metallics have small fleks of aluminum that just reflect light. There is generally small and larger fleks to chose from.

Metalflake are larger flakes of aluminum, usually 3 or 4 times bigger than that in metallics. Looks more like glitter, and is usually tinted some color. Flake has to be cleared with many layers of clear and wet sanded to end up smooth. Lots of people confuse Metalflake with metallic.

Pearl reflects hidden colors in brite lite or sunlite. It can be close to the base color or completely different. In overcast or dark environments, it usually dont show and in most cases 'muddies' up the basic color. ie/ white on overcast day may look dull white, yellowish or grayish. Pearl is a mid coat that is sprayed over a base color litely then followed by clear. Most pearles are called '3 stage' paints because of this. '2 stage' is a basecoat followed by clear. Sometimes the pearl is mixed into the basecoat. There are a few even called '4 stage', this is a base coat, pearl coat, tinted clearcoat, and final finish clear coat. An example would be the red on the 50th Anniverary Corvette.

Another variation is generally found on Chysler products called 'Mica' These are small prisms of glass that refract light similar to pearl. The cameleon colors are usually this type and how the chips are cut determines what color or colors are visible in light.

Solid colors like red, black, yellow can be a basecoat/clearcoat (2 stage) or single stage (clear is mixed in color) so a clearcoat is not necessary. In most cases, some colors, expecially single stage like white or black, will be duller appearing if they are clearcoated. ie/ white will appear yellower/dirtier and black will have more of a charcoal/grayer look than a deep rich looking black. Lots of people think that cleared black looks deeper but its confusing in that it will look like there is more depth (because it is) but it will not have the same rich black color.

There are other styles of paint but 90% are one of the above. Another worth mentioning are Candy Apple or 'Candies' This is where a base is applied, usually white, gold or silver, but any color could be used. This is followed by the actual candy which is a very transparent color that has the same effect as colored cellophane. Each subsequent coat will darken the final result slightly. 5 coats will be quite a bit darker than 2. That must be followed by several clearcoats to protect it. The end result is that you look thru the candy coats at the base coat. This type most times CANNOT be repaired without a complete repaint because if those properties. You have to have the same exact number of coats, same temp, same humidity, same gun tip and air pressure and that will seldom happen.

Candy and Metalflake (if heavy) dont have much luck surviving a lot of heat and sun. Due to the thickness of the paint film, they will tend to crack and split over a much shorter time.

Hope this helps some of you deciding on paint colors.


So, What are you trying to say Roger..??

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Originally posted by Smoooooth GT:
So, What are you trying to say Roger..??

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Originally posted by Smoooooth GT:

So, What are you trying to say Roger..??


I think he trying to say you can save some money by mixing aluminum shavings in with your regular paint to get Metal Flake or grind up somr really fine glass and mix it in to get the Chrysler Mica

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Report this Post08-23-2003 02:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ThaFieroMunkSend a Private Message to ThaFieroMunkDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

not going to be able to tell from a photo. You have to see it under direct light or sunlight to tell. It looks like a OEM color, so Id guess its not unless someone added it during a repaint.


Its close to an OEM colour, but put it next to a stock 87GT and you can clearly tell a difference. It has been repainted (obvious by the lack of silver on the ground effects). I have no clue though because I was not the owner who painted it this colour.

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Report this Post08-23-2003 03:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tjfennelClick Here to visit tjfennel's HomePageSend a Private Message to tjfennelDirect Link to This Post
FieroMunk:
Actually, the more I look at your car's pic, the more it looks like it could actually be a pearl color. Seems like it has a certain sheen there that aren't present in other pictures, especially by the way the color looks around the specular highlights. One thing's for sure, it doesn't look like a flat paint color.
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Report this Post08-23-2003 08:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Hey smooth, primer really dont qualify as a color When you just going to paint that anyway, lol.
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Originally posted by Reality:

Oh man, I LOVE that color! From previous descriptions, it sounded like a pearl white wouldn't look so hot, but that looks great!

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