I'd like to see pics of custom painted Fieros, non-stock colors. So no Whites, Reds, Yellows (was that stock?), Fiero Blues, or Blacks. Preferably, I'd like to see pearl paints.
Please?
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tjfennel Member
Posts: 585 From: Honolulu, HI, USA Registered: May 2003
Regardless, those two cars are beautiful, and must look even better in person . MinnGreenGT, Stage 2 Aus scoops?
Thanks! Yes, Stage 2 side-scoops, Rockcrawl's JL Extractor Hood vent, *LM/ST-style front air dam, M3 Style Side-Skirts, Fiero Warehouse Wing Extension... and that's about it. For the moment.
*LM/ST is my abbreviation for "Lawrence Mazza/SkiTime"
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jeremymarsh Member
Posts: 521 From: East Wenatchee Wa. Registered: Jul 2002
Here is mine it is the new 350z blue with pearl in it. The second one is crappy since it was done with a digital camera. This blue looks really bright in person.
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2Fast_Fiero Member
Posts: 1106 From: Tijeras, NM USA Registered: Jul 2003
older nissan 300z have a pearle yellow, every make has pearle white. caddy and chryler are popular. Late 80s t-birds have a pearle white that has red highlites in sun. The lambo im doing is pearle red, 2001 chrysler, and yes there is pearle black on Infinity Q45.
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Wheels1 Member
Posts: 945 From: Hutchinson, Ks. USA Registered: May 2002
I was thinking about getting my car painted with a pearl. Here's a few of my opinions:
Silver with blue pearl: Sounds really cool, but ends up looking like that boring silvery-blue import early '90s sedan colour (Mazda, and some others)
I love the idea of using a dark base, with a light pearl top. I saw a Mustang with a dark green base and a gold pearl. The car basically looked gold metallic, but you could sorta see the underlying green. Fairly classy.
White pearl: Yuck. If you want the same effect, paint your car white then give it a light coating of road dust. (Okay, I'm exagerating, but it's not my favorite) They always look like they need a wash.
Chameleon paint is starting to be too "last week". The Mustang Cobra was maybe the first to get it back in '96(?). Interestingly, the story as told by the paint guy at my old work was that the multi-colour/angle paint job was done by having these tiny chips with a different colour on each side (purple and green in this case) and by electrostatically charging the surface (paint) making them all line up the same way. (Sorry, I'm not a paint guy, just regurgitating the story)
Lastly (finally),
Black pearl. I've never actually seen a car like this, but I wanted to do a black or charcoal base with a silver metallic pearl. I hoped it would end up looking like onyx or hematite. I don't know how this would look in the real world, but in my head, it rocks.
Yellow pearl: My brother-in-law has a new '03.5 Mazdaspeed Protege with this colour, really striking, I almost like it as much as my yellow MotorTrend Review
Well, that's enough meandering from me for now.
Cheers,
Kris
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tjfennel Member
Posts: 585 From: Honolulu, HI, USA Registered: May 2003
Chameleon paint is starting to be too "last week". The Mustang Cobra was maybe the first to get it back in '96(?). Interestingly, the story as told by the paint guy at my old work was that the multi-colour/angle paint job was done by having these tiny chips with a different colour on each side (purple and green in this case) and by electrostatically charging the surface (paint) making them all line up the same way. (Sorry, I'm not a paint guy, just regurgitating the story)
Really? I was under the impression that the pearl itself was the source of the color change, since it's sold as a dry powder that's added to the paints themselves: http://www.houseofkolor.com/hok/products/specialty.jsp
I wouldn't know, though. I'm not a paint guy, either.
Also, there's different colors of pearls you could use in the paint, so I would assume if you choose well, a white pearl might look real nice.
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Scott-Wa Member
Posts: 5392 From: Tacoma, WA, USA Registered: Mar 2002
Not white, but close. House of Colors Silver with added pearl.
Nighttime
Indoor under lights
(Looks like a grey mouse in the shade though)
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Sweet car,
I want to swing off topic a bit... looks like your side intakes may be exactly what I'm planning for my 88 Formula. Can I see some better shots of those Tina along with any info on how you made them or where you got them?
The only 2 major mods I want to make to my Fiero's exterior are those style intakes that don't break the bodyline and a hood vent that is not divided in the same style.
I just noticed that pontiacsound used the picture I took of his car at the 20th, pretty cool!
Anyways, maybe I've been living in a hole all my life but this is the first time I've ever heard about this pearl paint effect. Can someone explain to me how this works?
I really don't know anything about paint. Its probably my least knowledgeable area concerning cars. I don't think body work/painting is where my talent lies but I would really like to understand so I can start to develop the colour I would like my car to be eventually!
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2Fast_Fiero Member
Posts: 1106 From: Tijeras, NM USA Registered: Jul 2003
FieroMunk: Pearls are basically microscopic beads which reflect light in the paint itself. Instead of just having a flat color with a highlight like you see with normal paint, you see more of a glow around the highlight. In a way, it looks like a matte paint job with a mirror finish. This is what I've learned, anyway.
Seems they come in pastes or powders, and in various colors. This is mixed in with the regular paints or clear coats. Not exactly sure which layer the pearl goes into, though.
I like to think of it as kinda like a finer, sexier version of metal flake paints.
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
Metallics have small fleks of aluminum that just reflect light. There is generally small and larger fleks to chose from.
Metalflake are larger flakes of aluminum, usually 3 or 4 times bigger than that in metallics. Looks more like glitter, and is usually tinted some color. Flake has to be cleared with many layers of clear and wet sanded to end up smooth. Lots of people confuse Metalflake with metallic.
Pearl reflects hidden colors in brite lite or sunlite. It can be close to the base color or completely different. In overcast or dark environments, it usually dont show and in most cases 'muddies' up the basic color. ie/ white on overcast day may look dull white, yellowish or grayish. Pearl is a mid coat that is sprayed over a base color litely then followed by clear. Most pearles are called '3 stage' paints because of this. '2 stage' is a basecoat followed by clear. Sometimes the pearl is mixed into the basecoat. There are a few even called '4 stage', this is a base coat, pearl coat, tinted clearcoat, and final finish clear coat. An example would be the red on the 50th Anniverary Corvette.
Another variation is generally found on Chysler products called 'Mica' These are small prisms of glass that refract light similar to pearl. The cameleon colors are usually this type and how the chips are cut determines what color or colors are visible in light.
Solid colors like red, black, yellow can be a basecoat/clearcoat (2 stage) or single stage (clear is mixed in color) so a clearcoat is not necessary. In most cases, some colors, expecially single stage like white or black, will be duller appearing if they are clearcoated. ie/ white will appear yellower/dirtier and black will have more of a charcoal/grayer look than a deep rich looking black. Lots of people think that cleared black looks deeper but its confusing in that it will look like there is more depth (because it is) but it will not have the same rich black color.
There are other styles of paint but 90% are one of the above. Another worth mentioning are Candy Apple or 'Candies' This is where a base is applied, usually white, gold or silver, but any color could be used. This is followed by the actual candy which is a very transparent color that has the same effect as colored cellophane. Each subsequent coat will darken the final result slightly. 5 coats will be quite a bit darker than 2. That must be followed by several clearcoats to protect it. The end result is that you look thru the candy coats at the base coat. This type most times CANNOT be repaired without a complete repaint because if those properties. You have to have the same exact number of coats, same temp, same humidity, same gun tip and air pressure and that will seldom happen.
Candy and Metalflake (if heavy) dont have much luck surviving a lot of heat and sun. Due to the thickness of the paint film, they will tend to crack and split over a much shorter time.
Hope this helps some of you deciding on paint colors.
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Unsafe At Any Speed Member
Posts: 2299 From: Cheyenne, WY Registered: Feb 2003
k, now I have another question... who comes up with custom color paint names??
No offence intended if this is someone's last name or something. I just thought it was an unusual name.
Well Hugger Orange is GM's color they used on the late 60 camaros and late 90 camaros. They were a lil different shade orange however, my hugger orange is from a 99 camaro, and one like Tiggers, is from like 68 or 69 camaro. his is more orange, and mine has a lil more red tint to it.
These don't show the whole car very well, but there the only ones I have right now. The flames are pearl blue that turn almost white looking at them standing by either one of the doors when the sun is low. The rest of the car is black.
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