Hey man, I read your signature and all, and I have to say in my opinion that's a damn shame. The best cars in the world are almost always sadly wasted sitting in garages and under covers, only to come out for shows and the sunniest of days, and not even then do they see much WOT acceleration. It's such a waste, there's so many people out there, including myself, who would drive these cars every day, and still keep them in beautiful shape. In short, your signature basically brags you are keeping in my opinion one of the coolest fieros made locked up in a cage and not on the road where it belongs. Peace.

Hmm I didn't realize that on the title it read that the owner of the car was BlackStang95??

Funny how everyone has opinions on what everyone else should do, with sh*t that isn't even theirs. Several years from now, when the Fiero population is half of what it is now, maybe less, Dave will be able to walk out to his car and say, "D@mn I'm glad I can still look at my car in all its original beauty"
Peace.

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AIM: FieroLisa

Its called "wanting to preserver (sp?) it"... I personally would drive the hell out of it..But also there are cars I would like and never drive...Everyone has different views. But you did word that wrong, you could have done ALOT better without sounding like an ass

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"All Fieros broke right now" :(

Well, this is gunna draw attention from the "Harry Potter must go..." thread so maybe some good will come out of this.

I believe CoolBlue87GT can do with whatever he wants with his Fiero.

Of course people can do what they want with their cars/fieros...but that doesn't mean others have to think it's right...look at that horrible tricycle attempt on the other thread...

I don't see the point of preservation...so he can have a mint fiero gt when he dies? Is he gonna leave it to his kids? If so he should drain the washer fluids and other stuff and start the first fiero museaum.

And again, these are just my opinions, if you don't like them no body forced you to click on my thead's.

[This message has been edited by BlackStang95 (edited 11-26-2001).]

Well , you know, for us "family types" the Fiero is not exactly the most practical car. I bought mine to take out on "only the sunniest days".It just sits in the garage the rest of the time and sure looks good doing it.I don't drive it everyday because I can't see the point in using it up for mind numbing daily commutes.Some may crucify me for this but what the hell - it sure looks good in my garage.Oh by the way its blue too. Peace. Mike.

Get the lock ready Cliff!

And the longer those miles stay off his Fiero, the higher the price goes up in time. He'll have one of the only original fiero's ever made, without a spec of dust on it, as it was from factory. Who are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't do with their cars? I don't see a car collector driving every one of his cars. Most want to keep the miles off, hence CoolBlue's only has 1700miles. That is essentially a BRAND NEW CAR. His fiero is probably worth more than your Mudstain brand new right now. So why tell him what to do?

Well, I didn't know I'd be a topic tonight.

I'm sorry you think my low miles is a shame.

I'm not a stuck up person that thinks everyone else is pond scum.

I'm a nice person, and am easy to get along with.

My low miles were not a plan when I first bought my car. I enjoyed an 84 coupe & a 85 SE coupe V6. They were my daily drivers.

I own them one at a time, & traded in for the next one.

I've put over 200 thousand combined miles on them, and loved each mile along the way. Just loved the way they handled.

When I traded in for the 87 GT, my plan was to enjoy the Fiero on days off & on nice days.

My work schedule changed, and having a daily commute of 60 one way miles meant the amount of money spent on fuel was really a major factor.

Well, I was working around the clock for months & months, without days off. That when on for 12 years.

Gas prices were pretty high then. I bought a used VW Rabbit diesel that got 52 MPG, and used it for my daily driver.

I put 225 thousand miles on the rabbit, then bought a 85 Jetta diesel and put over 230 thousand miles on it.

Also had a Honda Goldwing motorcycle, put over 200 thousand on it.

After that, I bought an 95 Ford Contour, and have 82 thousand on it so far.

Had I used the 87 Fiero all during that time, it would have over 650 thousand miles on it by now !!!

I really didn't have the time off to drive it, as my "off time" was spent sleeping, then back to work.

To sum this up, the choice to keep the Fiero in the garage was dictated by money, not trying to be a jerk by not driving it.

Plans to show it didn't come up until April 1998 when a friend talked me into entering it in it's first show.

Kbb retail

My car with 1700 miles = $7,635

His car with 1700 miles = $4,410

I love driving my stang and i'd never trade it for anything, regardless of gas or whatever.

And your point BlackStang??? Oh thats right, you have none...Get over it...Yours may be worth more, but his is still ALOT better lookin...

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"All Fieros broke right now" :(

Hey Cliff,
Is that voting system ready yet?

Just wondering!

Well, IMO blackstang, you wasted a somewhat decent mustang chassis by getting one with a v6, and leaving it a v6 instead of a proper v8. But hey, to each his own, right?

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1986 GT 5 speed, 1984 SC Auto
AOL: LastMinuteBastrd AIM: SavedbyJebus

quote Originally posted by BlackStang95: Of course people can do what they want with their cars/fieros...but that doesn't mean others have to think it's right...look at that horrible tricycle attempt on the other thread...[This message has been edited by BlackStang95 (edited 11-26-2001).]

This thread has me pissed off and it isn't even my car I am gonna be fighting for. I almost feel like you are now a attacking threat to any one on this forum.

1. How can you compare someone trying to preserve a great piece of art to somebody making a monstousity out of a Fiero by removing the the rear two wheels and putting this hiddeous attempt at somekind of joke or another. That my friend is a waste. There are plenty of Fieros left, so I don't think CoolBlue storing one a way is gonna effect the overall population.

2. You have no right to throw you opinions out like this just to bash other people's way of taking care of their cars.

3. I am glad to know there are "cherry" Fieros out there still.

4. Take you, your Mustang, and your shitty ass attitude off this forum, I am quite fed up with it.

5. CoolBlue I don't think is after a fortune by trying to keep his Fiero in its present condition. He has brought it to shows and has won.

6. However these are just your opinions. Just so happens that you are outnumbered 3000 to 1. He never talked you down in the first place either.

7. Cliff, I am fed up with him. Just because he isn't making a threat doesn't mean he isn't the weakest link. Alls he seems to do it is start arguements and trouble.

There is my ranting.

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My Fast 'n Black Car
Kyle - 85' GT

I gotta vote troll here. What was the purpose of starting this thread other than to start trouble???

Yea , okay , Are you still living at home ? Are you over 22 ?

You sound young with the style of "oh, I'd do this and that" comments

Put yourself in this position,

Supporting yourself, paying the following.

Mortagage payment

Car Payment

Buying food

Electric / water / phone / other bills

Taking the girlfriend out for dinner / show

Homeowner Taxes & dues

Trash removal service

Driving 120 miles a day, 6 days a week

Now, where the heck is the money to run the car ? Filling it up three times a week ?

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You know, why am I bothering. Think what you wish.

I've done the best that I could with my life, and as someone else said, who the heck are you to say what I should or shouldn't do.

I love my cars, and enjoy them.

I no longer feel a need to explain myself further.

Best wishes to you, and your car.

Mustang, you are wrong again. You compare what your car is worth at its present age with 1700 miles and that is totally inaccurate. To be fair, pull the KBB value for a 87 mustang with similiar equipment to yours with 1700 miles. I did it for you and got $2690. When your car is 14+ years old, you'd have to be lucky to get that much for it.

quote Originally posted by BlackStang95: And again, these are just my opinions, if you don't like them no body forced you to click on my thead's.

And the point of posting them here was what?

I like how CoolBlue handles himself. We need more people like that on this forum.

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AOL IM Name: FieroMaster88
Not your ordinary 88 coupe!

quote Originally posted by FieroMaster88: I like how CoolBlue handles himself

Thank you.

Being partial to blue Fieros, I am glad to see one kept in such pristine shape. I personally think (some)cars are works of art, and they can be treated as such. Some works of art you find in the park with kids crawling all over them, while others are appreciated while secured behind a 'velvet rope.' I keep my two Fieros washed, waxed, polished, covered INSIDE the garage, and running in TOP condition, and maybe drive them a combined 150 miles a month. I see them as an investment over time for ME. I want to have at least one of these cars for as long as I have the ability to do so. Use your art as you see fit.

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[This message has been edited by LT1 Chop Top (edited 11-27-2001).]

Coolblue87 does handle himself well, better than most of the regular members who replied to this thread.

The point of the price thing was to respond to kempos ignorant statement earlier that his car is worth more than my car brand new.

kyle your rants continue to amuse me and show your 15 year old status.

Looking back, I should have made this thread more general than directly against blue. You seem like an ok guy and I apologize. I just feel that too many of the worlds finest sports cars are wasted. Take the recent Mustang Cobra R's...of the 300 produced, I'd estimate 280 of them are sitting stagnant and stored inside some rich persons garage, as a conversatiion piece for the buddies after the next polo game. This is also true about old men who buy new corvettes to accelerate like a metro and not go above 55 (even after severe harassment from younger guys in black v-6 mustangs ). Sports cars and muscle cars are meant to be driven and driven fast. You can do this and still keep them in great condition. In my opinion if you use such great cars as mere transportation or even worse as furniture it's a waste and a damned shame. This is also what makes sports/muscle cars better than exotic cars. Exotics, although looking and performing amazing, arent real. They can't be truly driven, day in and day out. Sports cars can. And should.

quote Originally posted by BlackStang95: Coolblue87 does handle himself well... I should have made this thread more general than directly against blue. You seem like an ok guy and I apologize.

BlackStang95,

Thank you. I was quite surprized when I got home yesterday, to find I was a topic & being attacked.

Was kind of like being at the pearly gates, and having to justify my life in order to get in !

I'm glad my friends here came to my aid. It's nice to know I'm still remembered by them. Yes, some responded and were a little nasty, but they were protecting a friend.

A side note, in some of the car show's I've been to, even before I started showing mine, when I'd see a pristen example of a classic car, I thought, wow, I'd love to own that car. I'd ask myself, how did they keep it like this ?

Example, a '63 split window Corvette, or a 57 T-bird, or any classic car. You just don't see many that are 'factory new'.

All are restored. - That's fine, there's a whole art where people love to restore a classic back to new. That's fine. Really neat to see how people can do that.

As explained earlier, I didn't plan on having this car 15 years later in this kind of shape and only 1700 miles.

It just kind of happened. Now I know how those fellows kept their cars like that.
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Again, thank you for your final comments. We can now let this post fade away into the backround & become part of the forum history.

Take care & if you come to the Daytona 2002 show, please come by and say Hi, I've got a handshake for you.

Thanks again, to all.

Many years from now when the Car Gurus write about "classic cars" the Fiero will be prominently featured, and cars like Blues' will be the ones used as examples.
I don't think any of the other marques discussed on this forum recently will be so favorably remembered.
It is somewhat entertaining to see the non-Fieroists prance and preen...maybe Cliff can issue out red rubber noses or something else equally appropriate to deserving in(duh)viduals

BobC

While at the Fiero show in Carlisle this year, I was talking with CoolBlue when 84Bill came up and asked him how he managed to keep so few miles on his car. With a straight face CoolBlue told him he was in prison for a long time. The look on 84Bills face was priceless.

CoolBlue you are cool in my book.

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• Red 86 GT
  

Of course, I was not in jail.

.... or was I ? ha, lol

(off line 'till 7:30 pm - work)

[This message has been edited by CoolBlue87GT (edited 11-27-2001).]

quote Originally posted by BlackStang95: [B]Of course people can do what they want with their cars/fieros...but that doesn't mean others have to think it's right! And again, these are just my opinions, if you don't like them no body forced you to click on my thead's. B]

Blackstang... I sure wish that you would sell your computer, that way we would'nt have to hear sure opinion's from you anylonger... I understand what you're saying about you having an opinion... my 5 year old daughter has an opinion about stuff too, BUT I don't let her show her total STUPIDITY IN PUBLIC!!!! SHE'S 5 AND KNOW'S AT LEAST WHEN TO AND WHEN not to say her opinion!!! That's what you need... a pasifier.. to SHUT YOU UP!!! You still use your's right?? You are the MOST despised person here on this forum!!! I have enough self-respect that IF I'm not wanted somewhere... I'D LEAVE... HINT!!!!

HHmm.. It also sounded like a TON OF JEALOUSY(sp) in your word's... I guess I would be jealous too IF I WAS THE ODD BLACKsheep in a fine herd of Fine Fiero's!!

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Shaved door handles, sidetrim, exhaust outlet's, etc.... smooooth!!!

[This message has been edited by Smoooooth GT (edited 11-27-2001).]

Hey CoolBlue..My PM is wacked..I got yours and NP man.

On another note I have decided to ignore this moron and not waste my time typing remarks to his stupid comments....Who said this erlier "Hey Cliff, the voting system ready?!?!?!?"

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"All Fieros broke right now" :(

quote Originally posted by skitime: ...With a straight face CoolBlue told him he was in prison for a long time...

Yeah. I've worked at jobs that felt like prison. Kinda appreciate where he was coming from, based on his previous post.

And BlackStang...
Aside from the remarks about CoolBlue (which I won't go into because it appears you guys have made a truce), I can just picture the looks on the faces of all these 'Vette drivers that you seem to feel the need to annoy.
Why should they drive how you would have them drive? It's their car. They paid for it. They pay the insurance on it. Yeesh!
When you start paying their car notes and insurance, then maybe they'll let you dictate how they can drive.
It's not like a guy in a 'Vette has to prove anything to a wiseass kid in a Mustang, anyway.

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From the Department of Redundancy Department.

How do you define "worth", BlackStang? How is it that you can come here and call a whole bunch of people a whole bunch of names? You know that you are very disliked by the majority of the forum members, and if it were up to those members, you would be gone. Realizing that you may have pissed off a respectable forum member, CoolBlue, only then do you appologize, after you make your criticsm. You are out of your element, and should stop pissing off members of this forum with your snide, "I'm 16 and I have a Mustang, so I'm cool" remarks.

If anyone has ever seen CoolBlue's prized Fiero, you would instantly know why it's only got 1700 miles. The Fiero is absolutely beautiful. How many shows has it won, CoolBlue? Mostly for a stock fiero, I'd take it. I wonder how many Best of Show's that a regular mustang would win...

im gonna take blackstangs side , there is only so much time in life why keep a sweet car hidden away? it does no favors and even decays them,but if coolblue like's it that way that is that , and if i had to pick his gt and buddys little v6 stang i would definatly take the fiero , give it 10 years and his little v6 will be worth penuts!..

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www.geocities.com/acme_s2000/intro.html

[This message has been edited by yo_sweet (edited 11-27-2001).]

No doubt blues car is beautiful, but theres plenty of driven (lots of miles) fieros that are equally as stunning. Skitime's ride comes to mind. Kenmpoy and xlaxgt, if you haven't noticed, I really, really, could not possibly care less what you or the other less intelligent forum members think of me, my car, my posts, my choice of laundry detergent, etc. You guys are the kind of trash that plague every forum, from amg to yugo. "[insert model of car here] is the best car ever made, and if you say anything else you are a stupid moron!". That's what you guys sound like, you hate on me cuz I dont drive what you drive, and point out the beauty in other cars.

"Many years from now when the Car Gurus write about "classic cars" the Fiero will be prominently featured, and cars like Blues' will be the ones used as examples.
I don't think any of the other marques discussed on this forum recently will be so favorably remembered."

The Mustang was there 20 years before the fiero was born, it'll be there 20 years after its gone, still strong. I don't think the fiero will be anything more than a brief segment in classic car magazines, shows, etc in 20 years because they have a very small (although fanactically loyal) following.

"Little" V-6 yo? Mine's a hell of a lot bigger than yours.

[This message has been edited by BlackStang95 (edited 11-27-2001).]

BlackStang95- This is where the 'no-factor' comes in- everything you say is exactly right...only, no.

stang the comment litte (v6) meant as your car is a big heap of sh!t with a little v6 hauling it, as for something you posted about how your car was well respected in high school!,that is one of the funnyest things ive ever heard ,lmfao

I don't usually say anything on the threads like this, but I have found this one quite interesting. Blackstang I am wondering how you came up with the comparison of skitime and coolblue they are both great cars but compare apples to apples not apples to oranges. I like both cars but skitimes is custom. Ok I will get to the point you can't find more than maybe a few cars in stock form that have the original everything like this coolblues car. Yes they may be nice but when you get down to it there is almost noway they car compare without thousands and thousands of dallars put into them. I think preserving a few of them is great and needs to be done to all cars to show what they should be and how they were right from the factory. Like the cobra R's you mentioned you should be happy they are preserved by the (rich) folks as you said. If they were all driven they wouldn't be around in original form. You can't drive them much if you want them original. They get old break and then you either find a replacment part now or when it is old you have to customize the part or car. I have most custom cars but like to see the ones no one has messed with.

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quote Originally posted by BlackStang95: Kbb retail My car with 1700 miles = $7,635 His car with 1700 miles = $4,410 I love driving my stang and i'd never trade it for anything, regardless of gas or whatever.

5 years from today

Your car with 50000 miles 2 fender benders 45 doordings, keyed fender & door(most overly opinionated azzholes get that) = 500.00

His car with 1770 miles = $4,410 at worst

I had a killer time that day
The look on my face was about the same as the look on his face when I was about to remove the grease on the hood bump stops. What got me was the Original washer fluid. It was very nice to chat with Mr cool blue Fun-e-guy

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quote Originally posted by FieroKyle: 7. Cliff, I am fed up with him. Just because he isn't making a threat doesn't mean he isn't the weakest link. Alls he seems to do it is start arguements and trouble.

I second that! Except, just like terrorists, he will just come back in a different guise. Like maybe darkstang or whoopstang or mudstain or blackrustang95. I think we just need to leave his ignorant posts alone because he is just looking for a fight.

IMO Someone has too much time on their hands.

quote Originally posted by BlackStang95: I really, really, could not possibly care less what you or the other less intelligent forum members think of me, my car, my posts, my choice of laundry detergent, etc. You guys are the kind of trash that plague every forum. The Mustang was there 20 years before the fiero was born, it'll be there 20 years after its gone, still strong. I don't think the fiero will be anything more than a brief segment in classic car magazines, shows, etc in 20 years because they have a very small (although fanactically loyal) following. [This message has been edited by BlackStang95 (edited 11-27-2001).]

That ENOUGH.... "trash"???? Why won't you leave??? I tell you what... I'm some-what respected here..lol So, I'm going to stop my post here!! i DON'T WANT TO LOOSE IT IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY!!!!

Blaskstang.. Call me COLLECT ASAP!!!
Steve --- (903) 825-7744

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Shaved door handles, sidetrim, exhaust outlet's, etc.... smooooth!!!

Heheh Smoooooth, I like the cursing face I wouldnt even waste a collect call on him....Or even a regular call.....Not worth my, yours or anyones time....

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"All Fieros broke right now" :(