I have been looking and looking to find some ting for the guys with high HP High torque Engines and also make it so they have more room instead of having to cut and move things on the front cover like i have seen on the LS4 install . this is what i have found it is from an Audi and is rated for 360 Ft Lbs of torque and as you can see the drive axles are right up at the bellhousing flange

Make, Model, gear ratios?

Maybe from the Audi R8 / R10?

I would say the trans is from an audi a6 01up. The one I replaced looked very similar to that one. Only issue I would think one may run.into is that trans along with the Chrysler front mount axled trans.would be hooking up the electronics due.to all shifting points are ran thru the ecm.

quote Originally posted by fieroguru: Make, Model, gear ratios?

It's brand new... within the last couple of model years. Basically, they swapped the position of the clutch and diff in the "usual" transaxle layout. The diff is between the engine and the clutch.

So you have to split the casing to replace the clutch?

edit to add: if that means you don't need to unplug the axles, disconnect shifter cables, etc then it may actually be a good thing

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quote Originally posted by Blacktree: So you have to split the casing to replace the clutch? edit to add: if that means you don't need to unplug the axles, disconnect shifter cables, etc then it may actually be a good thing

I do believe its an automatic.

so it's a v.w. or will be soon..

I will try to get more info on it and i think in production from around 2008

Audi a4 uses the same trans , just make sure it is not awd.. http://www.kennedyenginc.com/ makes the flywheel and adapter. you can check out some of the kit csr forums several have been using them for awhile..

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well not really the axle shafts are further back than the one in the pic he sells a kit for the 016 and 01X but not an 0B2 like in the pic.

looks like an AWD trans

Looks like you’d still have to move the rear wheels at least a few inches.

According to the PDF, the transmission specs are as follows:

0B1: 6 speed manual, FWD, manufactured by Kassel, 68 kg (149 lbs), max torque 350 Nm (258 lb*ft).
0B2: 6 speed manual, AWD, manufactured by Kassel, 78.6 kg (173 lbs), max torque 350 Nm (258 lb*ft).
0B3: 6 speed manual, FWD, manufactured by Getrag, 77.1 kg (170 lbs), max torque 400 Nm (295 lb*ft).
0B4: 6 speed manual, AWD, manufactured by Getrag, 86.1 kg (189 lbs), max torque 500 Nm (368 lb*ft).

It would appear that all of the manuals are dual-clutch.

0AW: multitronic (continuously variable), FWD, 118.5 kg (261 lbs), max torque 380 Nm (280 lb*ft). Emulates an 8 speed automatic.
0B6: 6 speed automatic, AWD, variants with max torque 330-500 Nm (243-368 lb*ft). No weight given.

Of those, only the 0B1 and 0B3 appear to be usable in our cars. The 0B2 and 0B4 are AWD, and the 0AW and 0B6 are automatic (so you need a non CAN-bus controller, which may or may not exist). The 0B1 is a good bit weaker than the F40 (258 lb*ft versus 295 lb*ft, officially), and weighs a good bit more (149 lbs, versus 126 lbs [though keep in mind that the F40 is already a heavy transmission compared to the M17, Getrag 282, and F23]). That just leaves the 0B4, which could be a good alternative to the Porsche 930 transmission that some racers like to use. Interesting stuff.

Longitudinal engine installs have been done on Fieros before and all that I have seen are SBC.s have the TH325/425 transmissions that were used on old Buick Riviera's. This type of installation requires an extensive cradle modification and results in the heaviest weight gain of any of the engine swaps. It is also next to impossible to do the longitudinal swap without removing the entire trunk.
IMO the transverse mounted V8 swap offered by V8Archie is a far better way to go. It has been successful in 100's of V8 Fiero installations. Why try to reinvent the wheel when there is already a time tested, reliable and proven design?

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Powerlog manifold, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Flotech Afterburner Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

" Why try to reinvent the wheel when there is already a time tested, reliable and proven design?"

Because we can. It's a guy thing.

quote Originally posted by weaselbeak: " Why try to reinvent the wheel when there is already a time tested, reliable and proven design?" Because we can. It's a guy thing.

You got it wrong. It's "because lighter wheels give less rotational mass, letting you get more power to the ground, and go faster."

I wasn't really trying to reinvent anything just trying to get a good manual setup since i haven't heard of one not having a problem when pushed hard behind a V8 they tend to break if drag raced or hard launches

quote Originally posted by engine man: I wasn't really trying to reinvent anything just trying to get a good manual setup since i haven't heard of one not having a problem when pushed hard behind a V8 they tend to break if drag raced or hard launches

Understand the concern. If you cannot live with an automatic trans. the simple solution, is the F23 and later Getrags that will give you more strength. You could always go longitudinal but being familiar with a few guys who did that swap, they are a ton of work. Cradle modifications, oil pan redesign and tons of welding are required. If that doesn't bother you then go for it.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Powerlog manifold, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Flotech Afterburner Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

I just always ask and i feel it is a good thing because i am sure there was some one who said why not put a V8 in and on and on otherwise we would all be just running a 2.8 . having Ideas are good and not a bad thing it's just some ideas are not good Ideas

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You might find some useful info here
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/087996.html

"go faster."

And how is this not a guy thing?

quote Originally posted by raccoons: According to the PDF, the transmission specs are as follows: 0B1: 6 speed manual, FWD, manufactured by Kassel, 68 kg (149 lbs), max torque 350 Nm (258 lb*ft). 0B2: 6 speed manual, AWD, manufactured by Kassel, 78.6 kg (173 lbs), max torque 350 Nm (258 lb*ft). 0B3: 6 speed manual, FWD, manufactured by Getrag, 77.1 kg (170 lbs), max torque 400 Nm (295 lb*ft). 0B4: 6 speed manual, AWD, manufactured by Getrag, 86.1 kg (189 lbs), max torque 500 Nm (368 lb*ft). It would appear that all of the manuals are dual-clutch. 0AW: multitronic (continuously variable), FWD, 118.5 kg (261 lbs), max torque 380 Nm (280 lb*ft). Emulates an 8 speed automatic. 0B6: 6 speed automatic, AWD, variants with max torque 330-500 Nm (243-368 lb*ft). No weight given. Of those, only the 0B1 and 0B3 appear to be usable in our cars. The 0B2 and 0B4 are AWD, and the 0AW and 0B6 are automatic (so you need a non CAN-bus controller, which may or may not exist). The 0B1 is a good bit weaker than the F40 (258 lb*ft versus 295 lb*ft, officially), and weighs a good bit more (149 lbs, versus 126 lbs [though keep in mind that the F40 is already a heavy transmission compared to the M17, Getrag 282, and F23]). That just leaves the 0B4, which could be a good alternative to the Porsche 930 transmission that some racers like to use. Interesting stuff.

The FWD versions of those transmissions were not available in the states. These are tranmissions used in Audi A5's and S5's which come to the U.S. in only Quattro (AWD) form. You can get them from mexico in FWD though.