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Refinishing the Wheels? How do I? by Sofa King
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Report this Post04-17-2010 03:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Sofa KingSend a Private Message to Sofa KingDirect Link to This Post
Hi All,

Check out the finish on my 88 wheels. Does anybody know the best way to remove, what I believe is the old clear coat, off the rim and then polish to nice shine without removing the wheels?



Any help would be great!

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Report this Post04-17-2010 04:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Tony KaniaSend a Private Message to Tony KaniaDirect Link to This Post
Hi there. The best thig is to remove the tire. But, if you just want to polish the lips, you may be able to do it with the tire on.

This is what I would do...

1. Jack the back of the car up, and secure it.
2. Don't fume yourself out. Start your Fiero, and put it into 2nd gear.
3. With the rim and tire spinning, carefully sand/polish the lip of the rim. With a bit muscle, and the right sanding/polishing, the lips will become mirrors.
4. You can either clear coat, or just polish the lips a few times a year.
5. Exchange backs for fronts, and repeat as necessary.

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With mine I removed the wheel from the car and used paint stripper and a very small brush. After the clear coat softened I scrubbed it off with medium steel wool. Then wet sanded the bare aluminum with something like 600 - 800 grit sandpaper. Finished it off with Turtle wax rubbing compound and then Tripoli and small drill powered buffing wheel. It is time consuming but they look real nice when finished.

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Report this Post04-17-2010 05:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for White88FormulaSend a Private Message to White88FormulaDirect Link to This Post
I need to do this as well, all mine is starting to peel and fall off, does the plastic clear coat from the silver lip extend onto the black honeycomb?
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Originally posted by White88Formula:

I need to do this as well, all mine is starting to peel and fall off, does the plastic clear coat from the silver lip extend onto the black honeycomb?


Don't believe it does, the clear coat only protects the bare aluminum.

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Report this Post04-17-2010 08:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoDirect Link to This Post
Been there, done that. Take a rag, saturate it with Laquer thinner, wipe down the wheel, keep doing that step(really wet) , it will ALL wash off leaving the wheel nice, shiney, not scratched, ready to be re-cleared.
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Report this Post04-17-2010 09:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Western RabbitSend a Private Message to Western RabbitDirect Link to This Post
The Michigan Fiero Club web site has full instructions on redoing the wheel rims.
michiganfieroclub.com
I did mine without removing the tires from the wheels. Just worked around the rim a quarter at a time with paint remover and green scotch brite, cleaned up and polished. Looks great!
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Report this Post04-18-2010 12:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cjgableSend a Private Message to cjgableDirect Link to This Post
How to do this is also on the main page of PFF. https://www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin...n.cgi?WheelPolishing

I'm not sure why it says recovering headliner at the top... Cliff...
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Originally posted by cjgable:

How to do this is also on the main page of PFF. https://www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin...n.cgi?WheelPolishing

I'm not sure why it says recovering headliner at the top... Cliff...


Yea i just dont wanna take off the black paint id rather that stay on there just gotta get the extra garbage plastic coat off the nonpainted aluminum
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Report this Post04-18-2010 07:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
Here is how I did mine:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...001206-1-002367.html

If you need more details, just PM me.

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Report this Post04-18-2010 11:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for James Bond 007Send a Private Message to James Bond 007Direct Link to This Post
Mine were origionalley Dark Grey,for the honey comb area I used dish soap,ajax and an old tooth brush.I then sanded the outer aluminimum edge with wet and dry sand paper.I used a fine to medum grit paper,but befor starting I rubed the two pieces of sand paper together to get rid of some of the surface tension on the new sand paper.A then used a thin piece of card board,someing like from a cracker box or cerial box,so that I could seperate the honey comb area from the aluminimu auter edge and spray painted with aluminimum paint (shake aluminimum paint frequentley).Aluminim paint will oxidize or dull,so after fulley drying I clear coated the whole rim,incleding the aluminimum outer edge with clear coat.Both cans of spary paint were baught from autozone and are high temperature engine paint (aluminimum and clear) and no I didnt remove the tire,but I did use the cracker box again,when I applied the final clear coat,to seperate the ruber tire from the aluminimum outer edge.This is the final resutlt (Ferrari sticker,in the center) as for you,you can just use the wet and dry sand paper on the aluminimum outer edges..

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Report this Post04-18-2010 05:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Sofa KingSend a Private Message to Sofa KingDirect Link to This Post
Hey All,

While it's not 100% finished, I went out this morning and bought some thinner. I then spent the next few hours really cleaning / polishing the rear rims. I then sanded with 500 grit paper and then polished to high gloss shine. I think they turned out nice. I'll go back and really clean them when I have more time.



Much better

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You now can finish them with some "000" steel wool.
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Originally posted by Sofa King:

Hey All,

While it's not 100% I went out this morning and bought some thinner. I then spent the next few hours really cleaning / polishing the rear rims. I then sanded with 500 grit paper and then polished to high gloss shine. I think they turned out nice. I'll go back and really clean them when I have more time.




If you really want them to shine, sand the edges until you cannot see the machining lines, Then sand with 1000 grit. Once done use some Mother's Aluminum Wheel Polish.
The edges will come out looking like you had them chromed.
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Originally posted by Sofa King:

Hey All,

While it's not 100% I went out this morning and bought some thinner. I then spent the next few hours really cleaning / polishing the rear rims. I then sanded with 500 grit paper and then polished to high gloss shine. I think they turned out nice. I'll go back and really clean them when I have more time.




Yeah those do look nice! So lacquer thinner will strip the clear coat? Good info there. If you really want a shine the fine steel wool is a good idea. If you want an even shinier look buy a stick of Tripoli at a hardware store and a small buffing wheel for a drill. The aluminum will almost look like chrome. I guess it just depends on what you prefer, satin look or shiny. No matter, either is better than flaking clear coat and corroded aluminum. Good job!

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Report this Post04-18-2010 07:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Daredevil05Send a Private Message to Daredevil05Direct Link to This Post
That looks great. Good job! Now I can't wait to do my turbines. Thanks for getting me motivated.

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Report this Post04-18-2010 09:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for White88FormulaSend a Private Message to White88FormulaDirect Link to This Post
Nice, I'll be tryin this tomorrow.
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Report this Post04-18-2010 11:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DogcreekSend a Private Message to DogcreekDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the tips guys... This is something I was wondering about...

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Report this Post04-19-2010 07:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Sofa KingSend a Private Message to Sofa KingDirect Link to This Post
I'm really happy with the way it turned out - leave it to all you guys to come through with the best tips!

There are a few stubborn areas that I just assume leave for now plus dents and scratches that I can't do anything about.

But overall - they look GRRREAT!

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Report this Post04-19-2010 11:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Heres something else to try sometime. My Sebrings alloy wheels had some surface corrosion and nicks in the lip...the centers like Fiero are painted silver. I jacked up a drive wheel just off the ground and put it in 2nd gear to spin it. Then I sat on my stool and held a piece of #36 sandpaper against it. I cut the nicks out, took off the clearcoat. Then when the defects were all gone, i did the same thing with #80 sandpaper making the finish smoother. Finally went to #180 and #220. Finished it off with red scotchbrite and rubbing compound. They looked brand new and I didnt clearcoat them again. Any stains or marks can be fixed again in a few minutes with aluminum polish or steelwool. I just put each wheel on the drive axle at a time untill all 4 were done. Call it a hillbilly lathe
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Report this Post04-19-2010 12:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for deezilSend a Private Message to deezilDirect Link to This Post
The spinning wheel is a excellent idea.

I think I will still be a little scared doing it though.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

Call it a hillbilly lathe


That is exactly what I will call it from now on. Made me smile this morning.
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Report this Post04-19-2010 01:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
It works great, just dont stick you fingers in too far and get it caught in the spokes. You be surprised how fast it works. I dont recall exactly where valve stem is on Fiero wheel, so you may only be able to do the outside lip. On my Sebring i did the whole lip even where it wrapped in,,,valve stem was in the painted part. You could always just leave it in low or reverse too. I chose second so it would work faster. Just let the motor idle in gear, dont rev it up.
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