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Fiero Wiper Switch work around - HELP by ReinoMan
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Report this Post12-08-2009 05:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ReinoManSend a Private Message to ReinoManDirect Link to This Post
Hey Everyone,

I want to first say thanks, I have gained a lot of valuable information from this forum about my Pontiac Fiero. Now on with my inquiry. I have an 87 2.5L 4Cy Automatic Fiero. the Wiper Switch has gone bad and AutoZone and all auto parts stores online don't have the product in stock. I don't really feel like paying $100+ for a switch right now from another retailer, so I am looking for a cheap work around. Does anyone have any insight on setting up an alternate switch directly from the Wiper Motor motor fuse? Any info. would be great as I need my car for work and with the snow coming down here I need my wipers to at least turn on.

Thanks a lot everyone

Pics and step by step info is GREATLY appreciated.
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Report this Post12-08-2009 06:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
Welcome to the forum! To solve your problem, you're going to need say whether you have pulse wipers or not.
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Report this Post12-08-2009 06:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
Welcome to the Forum !!

See if these help !

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Report this Post12-08-2009 07:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
And...

Switch, turn/wiper(/cruse) lever, wiper motor, or pulse PC board can be bad.
Lever pulls out. See if plastic going into switch is cracked.
PC board in the wiper motor.

If switch is bad, usually switch is dead on one speed or all pulse.

Has it... only pulse
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Report this Post12-09-2009 10:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ReinoManSend a Private Message to ReinoManDirect Link to This Post
I have only had the car for a couple weeks and when I got it the guy said the wiper switch was bad. Basically the wiper lever spins freely so it's not even clicking with the switch inside the column.

Thanks for the fuse/circuit diagram. Now is there an easy way to basically make a mock switch with the provided fuse/wire information?
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Report this Post12-09-2009 10:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
You will need to locate the wiper swith connector where it comes out of the column and disconnect it. Looks like from there you would put your switch between the white wire (power feed) and purple or grey (depends on speed you want). If you got a "on-off-on" switch you could hook up both speeds. If you want washer pump add a button to feed 12v to the pink wire.

I have not done this myself, just suggesting what might need done based on the diagram
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Report this Post12-09-2009 10:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ReinoManSend a Private Message to ReinoManDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the tip, but I am looking for really just a simple mod, (that doesn't involve getting a new switch) so that I can turn wipers on and off that's all I really need at the moment. Something to "get by" until I decide to go out and buy a new switch.
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Report this Post12-09-2009 10:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
Thas what I was meaning, the switch in my previous post is a simple toggle switch, or two way (on-off-on) toggle switch...sorry wasnt clear !
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Report this Post12-09-2009 10:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ReinoManSend a Private Message to ReinoManDirect Link to This Post
HA ha sorry, yea that is exactly what I am looking to do, has anyone else ever tried this?
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Originally posted by ReinoMan:

Hey Everyone,

I want to first say thanks, I have gained a lot of valuable information from this forum about my Pontiac Fiero. Now on with my inquiry. I have an 87 2.5L 4Cy Automatic Fiero. the Wiper Switch has gone bad and AutoZone and all auto parts stores online don't have the product in stock. I don't really feel like paying $100+ for a switch right now from another retailer, so I am looking for a cheap work around. Does anyone have any insight on setting up an alternate switch directly from the Wiper Motor motor fuse? Any info. would be great as I need my car for work and with the snow coming down here I need my wipers to at least turn on.

Thanks a lot everyone

Pics and step by step info is GREATLY appreciated.


Kragen/O'Reilly's got my switch in one day. $85 for the pulse + tilt. BWD S3474 (if I remember it right). The is for the 87-88 (has the clicks). It also works in the 85-86 cars. There are non-tilt/non-pulse versions too.

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Report this Post12-09-2009 12:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
You still haven't said whether it's got pulse or not. Only do what Mike has suggested if you have a non-pulse system. If it DOES have pulse, then you can't simply wire a toggle switch between the wires. If you look carefully at the switch itself of the pulse wire diagram, you'll see there's a resistor between the word "lo" on the switch and where it comes out as the grey wire. This resistor is presumably to drop the 12V at the switch to 5V for the solid state box called " Pulse/Speed/Wash Control". If you connect a toggle switch as Mike has suggested to a pulse system, you'll blow your control module and then you'll have even more problems.
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Report this Post12-09-2009 01:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
Yes if you have pulse dont use the grey wire. You will only be able to use the high speed and use the purple wire.

Thanks Blooz, Meant to say that the first time....hadn't had enough coffee yet ! But please correct me if i'm wrong !
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Report this Post12-09-2009 02:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ReinoManSend a Private Message to ReinoManDirect Link to This Post
How do you check if you have pulse? The turn signal lever is aftermarket so I don' t know for sure.
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Report this Post12-09-2009 02:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
If it is NON pulse the motor/controller will have the connector toward the center. and no visible real flat surface.

If it is PULSE the motor/controller will have a rectangular flat cover plate which is screwed on, and the connector will be to the far right end.

If you need I will go brush some snow off and take pictures.

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Report this Post12-09-2009 02:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ReinoManSend a Private Message to ReinoManDirect Link to This Post
I will go check it out when I get out of work, It's a base model 87, on another note how much of a headache is it to change the wiper switch in the column should I have to do that?
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Report this Post12-09-2009 03:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
Its a pain if you have never been inside the steering column before !

Found this thread that might help answer that question.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...030819-2-033186.html
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Report this Post12-09-2009 03:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ReinoManSend a Private Message to ReinoManDirect Link to This Post
That doesn't sound very fun @ all... I hope I can get an easy mod @ least for the time being... Oi'
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Originally posted by ReinoMan:

How do you check if you have pulse? The turn signal lever is aftermarket so I don' t know for sure.


Aftermarket? could be you problem...

Turn Lever, Non Cruse


Cruse and Non Cruse, Turn Lever, wiper switch end.


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