does any one else have this problem and if so why does it happen and how can i fix it the center console gets very hot at the ash trays and where the glove box meets the console that holds the shifter my car is 87 gt auto

I would SURELY worry about that, being as , That the only thing under there is YOUR FUEL TANK !

i am and it's got me worried any ideas on what could be causing it going to try to figure it out today

There are lamps that illuminate the ash trays and one at the cigar lighter too. Are these burning 24-7?
Other than that I cannot think of what else it is. Only fuel tank below this area unless your battery is relocated up front. There is wiring on the cabin side in the console along with the cruise control brain box.

Open it up and check out these items.
How long have you owned the car, is this your first summer season with it?
sparx22

I get that too, and I assumed it was just plain old "under the hood" temps.

2nd summer did not notice last year will take apart and check though

Your converter is blocked .
I had this problem
I changed the converter , trouble is gone
When i put my hand between the driver seat and console it was very hot even on highway .
Hit the converter and i'm pretty sure you gonna hear the pieces jumping inside .
The converter can be cherry red when blocked
Once i saw a straight body and the converter was red as if you had heated it with a torch .

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My rear window gets hot like that. Just the heat coming up out of the engine vents?

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quote Originally posted by shinesley: My rear window gets hot like that. Just the heat coming up out of the engine vents?

Or leaking exhaust manifold. I worked on a buddies V6 that was close to melting the rear window. There is some heat anyway but in this case it was pretty dang hot until we fixed the leaking gasket.

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quote Originally posted by joebaldie: 2nd summer did not notice last year will take apart and check though

do you own a time machine? you own a DMC-12 dont you?

quote Originally posted by TK: Or leaking exhaust manifold. I worked on a buddies V6 that was close to melting the rear window. There is some heat anyway but in this case it was pretty dang hot until we fixed the leaking gasket.

Ahhh... yep thats what I got. Have the gaskets on order and should be fixed by the weekend. Thanks TK!

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If the grommets around the shifter or throttle cables do not seal properly they will allow the hot air around the exhaust manifold to enter the center console area and exit at the lighter and ashtray areas.

Excuse my ignorance, but just what is a "converter"?

When I bought my '85GT I got a new exhaust and one of Rodney's high flow cats. I also fashioned a heat shield over the cat that protects the passenger compartment, starter, a/c pump, and oil filter. I should note that the original shield shown was aluminum flashing, it turned out to be too flimsy. I've since replaced it with a steel version made from a flattened section of 4" stove pipe from the hardware store.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...050119-2-053582.html

Diagram of shield...
http://myfiero.com/uploads/17538_.jpg
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quote Originally posted by rotten21: Excuse my ignorance, but just what is a "converter"?

Catalytic converter

I agree with the catalytic converter theroy. Eventually the parts inside (Looks like a honeycomb) can fuse together and create a massive back pressure problem that can really do a number on the engine. This happened to my IROC, and really caused me some headaches.

quote Originally posted by joebaldie: i am and it's got me worried ....

This is common and NOT something to worry about. All the hot air coming through the radiator and off the coolant lines is very likely the cause. Every fiero i've had has had this. You can put insulation inside the console "tunnel"or add under the carpeting on the outside if it gets too uncomfortable.

Before you go chasing a catalytic converter problem (which personally I have trouble believing, since you said the problem is near the ashtrays) did you check to see if your cigarette lighter is pushed in and not popping after it gets hot?

I would roll it up on a couple of ramps after running it for awhile, and using some thick cotton work gloves (Don't get burnt), feel around for parts giving off excessive heat. A catalytic converter problem will be very evident if it's there. The suggestion on the cigarette lighter is a good one, but if a cigarette lighter gets stuck, the fuse should blow. I am inclined to agree with PaulJK's suggestion that this is normal, These cars do run hot.

I agree with alot of the info here:Leaking exhaust or bad cat and as mentioned above if any of the gromets around the shofter melted because of the cat,heat will enter the vehicle (had that happen in a Camaro).Use caution you may be breathing carbon dioxide gas and pass out.

I got no cat - so - it surely is not that
and, exhaust would give a slight burn to the eyes and a smell as well

What about when the ground straps break or corrode and the engine and chassis ground through the shift cables?

That creates enough heat to start fires as a few members on PFF can attest.

quote Originally posted by fieroguru: If the grommets around the shifter or throttle cables do not seal properly they will allow the hot air around the exhaust manifold to enter the center console area and exit at the lighter and ashtray areas.

Good one!

thanks for the help had car in the air noticed that one oh my gaskets from the header to the exhaust pipe is blown out on the firewall side of the engine will start here by replacing that my cat is not blocked i checked that i also noticed there are two pipes that run along either side of the gas tank i believe for the ac the one on the passenger side gets very hot as for cigarette lighter i have removed that from my console and disconnected the wiring. if keeps up will try the insulation next.as far as my window that does not really get hot

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Good point with the manifold gasket , now that i think of it , i remember having this , same time as my cat was blocked .
After fixing these everything turned out good , still warm but not hot ( normal i guess ).

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