Here is my first attempt.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-2-077973.html
After a couple year it is leaking pretty bad again and caused my starter to stop working.
So I pulled it again. The cork gasket was pretty bad, smashed to the point were it split in several places. This was 2 layers of rubber impregnated cork gasket with gasket sealer between the layers and stuck to the flanges.
The part that was missing was stuck to the adapter, it wasn't missing just fell apart when I took it off.


I will swing by the store after work and see if I can find some good thick rubber gasket, 3/16 or thinker if I can.
The gasket was gone around the bolt holes and that is there I suspect it was leaking from all this time. But the gasket is shot at both mounting flanges.

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These leaks make me want to run the starter on the tranny side and keep the oil filter setup stock... Mine is still leak free... but I guess it is just a matter of time.

quote Originally posted by fieroguru: These leaks make me want to run the starter on the tranny side and keep the oil filter setup stock... Mine is still leak free... but I guess it is just a matter of time.

Its not the best place for the starter. Haven't found the correct gasket material yet, I have my eye on an old rubber floor mat if I cant find anything else.

Jake:

I have Archies rubber gasket material burried in my garage somewhere if you need it.

Let me have a little time to dig for it before stopping by.

John

quote Originally posted by 1986GTV8: Jake: I have Archies rubber gasket material burried in my garage somewhere if you need it. Let me have a little time to dig for it before stopping by. John

Thanks John.
Going to stop by Napa after work and see if they have some.
Are you going to Daytona this weekend?

See you there on Sat?

I got a roll of rubber fiber mat 1/16 of an inch thick. Its about the same thickness as the cork but its 20 times as heavy and should hold up to the pressure better than the cork.
The door rod fell of my Vette so I had to work on that one tonight.

I know your pain. I went through a couple of those cheaper oil filter adaptors. One leaked so bad it wiped out the magnets in my starter. I finally decided to get the billet Moroso one here on the linkie http://store.summitracing.c...il.asp?autofilter=1& part=MOR-23782&N=700+115&autoview=sku. I really liked this one because it has a second o-ring for a redundant seal. 60 bucks well spent. I haven't drove the 327 that much yet, but so far no leaks. might be something you might wanna look into.

Well first try FAIL
Going to pull the starter and try and see where its coming from.
But not tonight.

Maybe cut up an old inner tube? I have used one from time to time for all sorts of things. Best one was an 8N Ford tractor governer gasket. Never could get it to stop leaking with the correct paper gasket. Inner tube gasket stopped it the first time.
Joe

quote Originally posted by josef644: Maybe cut up an old inner tube? I have used one from time to time for all sorts of things. Best one was an 8N Ford tractor governer gasket. Never could get it to stop leaking with the correct paper gasket. Inner tube gasket stopped it the first time. Joe

Thats a good idea.
I think the outside ring gasket may have been too big so I will pull it and start over again If it leaks again I will probably be buying the one from the above link with the O rings.

How's the progress Jake?

quote Originally posted by 1986GTV8: How's the progress Jake?

Haven't had a chance to get back to it. I will pull the starter this weekend and take some pictures.

The tube to use is from a large truck; I have used them for years. They are quite a bit thicker and will hold up indefinitely. Just go to a truck repair shop and get an old one they are discarding and you will have a life time supply for all your heavy duty gasket needs.

BRIAN

If the new gasket is leaking I will eat my hat. I think it has to be a hose fitting so I will pull those next. But it did start and ran long enough to run around the block before it started leaking again.
It could just be oil that was leaked into the frame as it didn't leak when I first started it. I will let it cool off and take a look at it again this weekend.

I used an inter-tube, it was pretty thick and should compress nice enough to hold a seal so it has to be a hose or fitting.

Remember I went thru this? Being there done that. You need good thick 1/8" flat rubber. Anything less will not do. Tried all those. Archies latest is excellent. I was also able to find some (small piece for free) at an hydraulic hose strore. Check a local one. Ask for belt hose. Must be flat and not porous. Then the lower (big one) you need to cut it kind close to inside and outside but not too close. On the outside it should not buldge or very very little when installed. The inner one need to cover the bolt holes very nice. I only used RTV on the bolts to cap area. The two gasket went dry. Sealed perfectly and clean. I also have gasket material if you need. Good luck.

Thanks Alex, I have been looking at the hoses and fittings. The "gasket" is about 1/16 thick and should compress well enough to seal.
It could be the fittings who knows. I wish there was a different way to mount the starter so a stock filter could be used.
I have had nothing but trouble out of the adapter.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: Thanks Alex, I have been looking at the hoses and fittings. The "gasket" is about 1/16 thick and should compress well enough to seal. It could be the fittings who knows. I wish there was a different way to mount the starter so a stock filter could be used. I have had nothing but trouble out of the adapter.

It is a pain to get it right. But once it is it works fine. I still think 1/16 is too thin. I did it three times until I got it right last time. So I know the pain.

OK found my leak. Its the elbow leaking. So I need to know what the threads are so I can pick some up on the way home tomorrow.

Bump anyone know what the thread size is?

I am pretty sure it is 3/8" NPT.

i know it's a V-6 BUT chevy has a factory oil filter relocation unit on their 4.3's as an option...is this a possibility to be used on the 350 because the 4.3 shares plock design minus 2 cyl's with the 350?

quote Originally posted by greasemonke50613: i know it's a V-6 BUT chevy has a factory oil filter relocation unit on their 4.3's as an option...is this a possibility to be used on the 350 because the 4.3 shares plock design minus 2 cyl's with the 350?

Here is the stock 1992 4.3 4x4 oil relocation unit as installed on my 4.3 Fiero.


Two issues...
1. The 4.3 oil filter area is a smaller diameter than ther Gen 1 SBC's so it will not bolt directly to the Gen 1 SBC.
2. Even if it did, the unit will only clear the Z-style V8 kits due to available starters and mounting differences. (it is too tall to fit an Archie starter combo).

The fullsize Chevy 4x4's also have something similar, but it is a huge monstrosity (have one on the shelf too) and will not fit even on a Z-kit.

Thanks!
I wish the starter on my V8 had that much room. I crawled under the car with it running and could see the oil running down the elbow so I'm 99% sure thats the problem. It rained yesterday so I didn't get the starter pulled off yet. It may be a couple of days but I will pull elbow before I go get the new one. Working on the carport is so much fun.

OK, the factory oil filter relocation kit on my 1990 S-10 PU had hydrolic lines and put the oil filter all the way up on the driver's fender, i was wondering if this was a possibility on the fiero's and didn't realize the oil filter had a smaller diameter on the 4.3 VS the gen 1 sbc.

Well initial results are the elbow was leaking. I installed a new one and had to modify the adapter to get the elbow in the correct direction.
So far no leaks.

Well I put about 25 miles on it over the last 2 days and it hasn't leaked at all.
Now I can drive it to work while I work on the Vette.

Never rule out things that you know cant be the problem. I have looked at those elbows a 100 times and never once thought it was one of them. Turns out the only thing hold the one in was the Teflon tape.
Well thats fixed now.

Hey Jake, I was wondering did you notice a low oil pressure situation before you changed
your gaskets. I ask because my motor never showed more than 30psi and runs when warm at
20psi. just changed my adapter to the one tumble weed recommended and now run 70 psi . Was
just curious if it was just me Thanks Ray

quote Originally posted by rcp builders: Hey Jake, I was wondering did you notice a low oil pressure situation before you changed your gaskets. I ask because my motor never showed more than 30psi and runs when warm at 20psi. just changed my adapter to the one tumble weed recommended and now run 70 psi . Was just curious if it was just me Thanks Ray

No but its hard to tell. The electric pressure gage shows 45 PSI and at idle its about 25 PSI but the mechanical in the back shows 70 - 40 PSI but its the same as it was before the new gasket.