Its driving me crazy!!! I created a nice gasket from cork and glued it to the adapter but it still leaks. Going to pull the starter and see if I can figure out where its coming from. What did you guys do?

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Check around the two mounting bolts. I had a problem there.
Good luck
Gary

How did you seal yours? I tried O-Rings but they didnt work, it also looks like one of my elbos may be leaking but I wont know till I get the starter off.
I was thinking of coating the bolts with gasket sealer and wraping the top of the bolt with some thread tape.

Take a drill (or a large countersink if you have one) and LIGHTLY countersink the two bolt holes in the adaptor on the outside. Use O-rings on the bolts and flat washers under the bolt heads. The O-rings will then be trapped in the countersink area and will not leak.

quote Originally posted by gusshotrod: Take a drill (or a large countersink if you have one) and LIGHTLY countersink the two bolt holes in the adaptor on the outside. Use O-rings on the bolts and flat washers under the bolt heads. The O-rings will then be trapped in the countersink area and will not leak.

I already did that going to add the sealer and tread tape this time. I think the o-ring alone isnt doing it.

I'll see if I can find the part# of the seal I used.

You mean this problem. My leak was huge. In my case it seems to be mainly the bolt as you can see. I used Archie gasket material with lots of RTV and don't have a problem around the adapter. Have my engine back so I need to see what I will do there.

quote Originally posted by Alex4mula: You mean this problem. My leak was huge. In my case it seems to be mainly the bolt as you can see. I used Archie gasket material with lots of RTV and don't have a problem around the adapter. Have my engine back so I need to see what I will do there.

Exactly, I wont know for sure but it looks like the same issue. I will try to pull the starter this week and see if I can get some sealer in the bolt holes.
Thanks for posting the picture.

Now which adapter do you have exactly. Come to think of it.
Looking into the Summit catalog. Perma-Cool, the one I have isn't even in there anymore.
So the the O ring replacement kit of #127 probably would not help you much.

Anyways, My leak was so minute , it was hard to find.
Mine leaked around the the square O ring.
The one that fits on the outside of the adapter that fits into the block.

Thread tape is not the answer, btw. What you want to use Permatex Hi performance thread sealant on the fittings.
The bolts that hold the adapter into the block normally are only threaded 3/4 or 1 nch into the block and then bottom out.
So, highly unlikely oil leak comes from there.

On the bolts, do you have soft or hard washers? They could of been over torqued, mushroomed and end up leak there.
It say take it all off, clean it up, get your self another gasket kit, a little silicone for the square one,
thread sealer and try to assemble as much as possible before you bolt it back on to the car.

Crossing my fingers for you
Tina

It looks like the one alex posted.
The only thing I was going to use the thread tape for was to keep the o-ring in place, not on the threads.
I was also thinking about some washers I saw the other day, they had gasket material on one side. That may also help.
The adapter is the same one that Archie said to use but my kit is probably 5 years old and I cant find it on summit.

Lots of RTV on the two bolts, and give it plenty of time to cure. I epoxied the plug in. Never plan on removing it. To be on the safe side, check your distributer, If it is leaking it will run down the block and find it's way to the starter making you think it's the oil adaptor.
Good Luck
Gary
P.S. I went to the hardware store and bought some material to make new gaskets, some kind of rubber, don't recall the name of it. I would not trust cork. JMO

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I cut my gaskets out of some tough rubber stock that came with my kit from Archie. Two years and no leaks yet.

If the bolts are going into the block bottom out and its leaking out of the them would the mean the smaller gasket is leaking?
Got the starter off and I can see where its shooting oil out of one of the bolts and soaking everything.

Its getting dark early now so I didnt try to fix it last night.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: If the bolts are going into the block bottom out and its leaking out of the them would the mean the smaller gasket is leaking? Got the starter off and I can see where its shooting oil out of one of the bolts and soaking everything. Its getting dark early now so I didnt try to fix it last night.

Please let me know what you do. I have that to be addressed next weekend

I had these exact problems on occasion until I upgraded the adapter to this one I bought from a dirt track performance shop - they custom made it from billet aluminum and it uses two rubber o-rings.





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Didnt get back to this tonight, did buy a trouble light so I can work on it in the dark
I plan on taking the bolts out, putting a washer on the bolt then wrapping some thread tape around the bolt under the washer until it is built up enough to make it a thight seal. Then I will coat the rest of the bolt with gasket maker. It is the bolt hole leaking, the rest of the addapter is clean and I can tell its not leaking from the side. Stupid bolt holes

Ok I pretty much did what I said. I wrapped it with thread tape and coated the bolt with gasket maker. I took some pictures but they didnt turn out and its alread installed I'm not taking them back out. The o-rings were pretty much gone, they must have hung up on the bolt when I was putting the bolts in and they fell apart.
I also have a very bad leak from the rear valve cover but that should be easy to fix once I have the starter back on. I hope this does it, if not its going up on jack stands untill next spring when I do the clutch.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: I hope this does it, if not its going up on jack stands untill next spring when I do the clutch.

I hope it doesn't end up on jack stands all winter. I may be down there around Christmas and I'll be looking for a ride since mine will be stuck in the garage. Hell, it doesn't get too cold to work on your car down there that I remember.

quote Originally posted by Saxman: I hope it doesn't end up on jack stands all winter. I may be down there around Christmas and I'll be looking for a ride since mine will be stuck in the garage. Hell, it doesn't get too cold to work on your car down there that I remember.

I wont have the money for the new clutch until after my tax return comes back.
Its actualy very nice out right now, if it wasnt getting dark out so soon it would be great.
I'm getting ready to start another project in the next few days so the V8 will probably be doing more sitting. I found a running 2.8 to install in my SE and hope to have it back on the road soon.

My solution.

quote Originally posted by Alex4mula: My solution.

That pretty much looks like mine but I use black gasket maker

I used the heavy duty Cooper version because my exhaust is close and because I had it handy. Just in case

So when you took your bolt out did you get a face full of oil? I did ok it wasn’t a lot of oil but I do think if it didn’t stop it will be a lot slower.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: So when you took your bolt out did you get a face full of oil? I did ok it wasn’t a lot of oil but I do think if it didn’t stop it will be a lot slower.

My engine was empty as it came back from the machine shop. Good because I was able to clean very well the little oil remaining at the adapter around the bolts.

Still leaking, its a lot better but I think it may be the oil pan rear seal, its in the same place. I dont have any oil on the fly wheel so I dont think its the rear seal.
I will probably just take it off the street until I have time to pull the motor and fix it. I need to replace the clutch anyway and that will give me time to fix some other issues.
I dont think I can get the pan off without dropping the cradle and I dont have room to do that right now.

But I did take it for a rid today and put a big smile on my face
Saxman I can still take you for a ride just not a long one

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: But I did take it for a rid today and put a big smile on my face Saxman I can still take you for a ride just not a long one

I had mine out today, too. What a sound - and what a feeling. I'll give you plenty of warning before I arrive, but it looks like December 22.

I spotted a few drops of something under mine after my run. I may have the same leaky problem...