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Choptop #025 "FIEROciousGT" Build by FierociousGT
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I would like to see the mirrors on the car.

Can someone please post some pictures?
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I would like to see the mirrors on the car.

Can someone please post some pictures?


Linc, check your PM.
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HRE pics!
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Info for David. Coil-overs are in the box ready to be mounted but some of the info here is still useful.
Specs and clearance on a 1988 Fiero stock suspension:



Strut tower clearance; note I haven't installed the coil-over yet, but I do have clearance using a 20x12...interesting.


Shock clearance:


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Thanks Curly and Archie, I posted the pics of your HRE test fit to determine my '88 suspension with the Mad-Arch widebody... WHEEL HEADACHE!

Build thread has been moved

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Ok David, now that you picked up your car, it's time to enjoy it .
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Originally posted by troyboy:
Ok David, now that you picked up your car, it's time to enjoy it .


Yes, after I fix certain items that were not done and mod the rear half of the widebody .
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Report this Post11-11-2008 05:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierociousGTSend a Private Message to FierociousGTDirect Link to This Post
Finally FGT is back home...

http://CentralFloridaFieros...ndex.php?topic=3.120


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'88 GT, 3800 SC II, IMSA/MadCurls widebody combo, Choptop, Borla exhaust.
http://www.CentralFloridaFIeros.net

FGT Build thread ~> Link

Be careful dealing w/ V8Archie... don't even bother.
http://tinyurl.com/V8Archie

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Well, it's about time.
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Yay! Now when is paint coming? When do I get to borrow it?

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https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-1-061575.html <~ The drama with kitcarman
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/078336.html <~ finishing and fixing kitcarmans mess
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/079860.html <~ re-do after kitcarmans motor blew up.

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Originally posted by JimmyS:

Yay! Now when is paint coming? When do I get to borrow it?



Maybe he'll bring it to Daytona so we can see it in person. And remember no ugly chic pic's on your hood. LOL

Joe

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Originally posted by JimmyS:
Yay! Now when is paint coming? When do I get to borrow it?

Next steps
- Add some stuff to the 3800 SCII.
- Finish exterior
- Get wheels
- Paint
- Interior
then you can take a spin

 
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Maybe he'll bring it to Daytona so we can see it in person. And remember no ugly chic pic's on your hood. LOL

Joe

I'd like to have it ready (w/Paint) for Daytona '09. That was my bad... She looked hot from 1000 feet away... lol Can't believe she wanted to charge u$ for taking pictures.
https://images.fiero.nl/p...ges3/IMG_0352[1].jpg

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Haha... looks like a member of Tesla in a bikini. Anyway, I look forward to seeing the FGT machine in person.
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We're our pictures? No love?
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Originally posted by madcurl:
We're our pictures? No love?




Last week with one of the CFF club members we reviewed my Fiero and these are some of the things we found:

- Seat was not lowered for the choptop. (I questioned this and was told it is lowered by archie)
- Front/Rear bumper impact egg crates are missing. (does anyome have a set I can have?).
- Wrong coolant was added (green stuff instead of orange Dexcool). Have to flush the cooling sys.
- Pin holes on the body (given).
- Gaps in between the fiberglass parts (going to take lots of work).
- Left front fender side burn is crooked (I thought so).
- Hood vent not cut out (always some excuse why it wasn't done).

I have also decided to scrap the Diablo mirrors due to it bothers me way too much every time I see them anywhere.
http://centralfloridafieros...=465.msg2361#msg2361

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This is why you want to be in driving distance from the shop working on your car so you can check up on it.

Update:
This evening I picked up one of my Diablo replica mirrors (from where my car is stored) to photograph and sell on CraigsList and ebay... Guess what, the wire harness to the mirror's motor was never put back in.  Conclusion: You have people that don't give a sh!t and then you have V8-archie.  The bad part is these mirrors where imported from Brazil. Don't worry about it archie, I will be in Daytona '09 doing your marketing.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...L/085825-7.html#p252

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Anything new to report?
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He'll be sure to "Devue" the car for you.
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Here's what they look like.....











You can see here that the bottom of the Fiero seat bottom is lower than the Vette.








I'll go out and crudly measure the seats. keep in mind Archie modified the seat rack extensively to allow for tilting of seat and it is very, very close. Don't expect to tilt both seats cause you really don't have much room. Also, if the seats your purchasing are larger than the ones I have....DON'T BUY THEM!
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Here's the measurements for the Corvette seats. Keep in mind, Archie and the Crew max-out seat rails for fit and you'll need to do the same if you decide the use this type of seat. Also, you're limited as-to moving and folding the upper part of the seat thus the top portion will hit the roof. My seat are allowed to move forward, but you can't tilt the seat. Since we're about the same height the results should be the same.

Give a minute to post all of the pictures. I'm finally using my Iphoto.

Here's the bottom width-wise.



Bottom @ 20 inches (the best I could do while holding the camera)


Upper back seat from bottom to the very top (once again the best I could do without removing the seat from car)


Max-forward tilt;


Max- backward tilt; This is my normal driving position and I very rarely tilt the seat forward.

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More pics; clearance



As you can see from underneath, the seat cannot be folded w/o it hitting the roof. I'm okay with this since nobody is getting in the back, right?


The Corvette seat truly hug your side without being obtrusive. It's a better seat for long drives and for going around corners. The down side to using this seat is the headrest blocks your view when trying to look from the drivers side sail window. However. you can see through passenger side sail window.

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Last pic; Passenger seat. I usually have leaned as-is, but sometime it's tilted back.




Expect to pay about $600-750 bucks for these.

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I heard that #025 is offically at home, true?
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I heard that #025 is offically at home, true?


I seen Dave yesterday at the Team E open house. He said he does have his car at home now. He also said he no longer has an account here on pennocks so he probably won't be posting here anymore. He talked with Dan and I and Dan will probably be doing some fiberglass work to #25. Dan and I will be making a trip to Daves sometime after the 1st of the year.
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I'm back with a good reason. I will not be posting in any other thread nor answering PMs. Lets get to the point with this build thread.

UPDATE:

I've had five people review the body on my car. Three where CFF club members in the automobile insurance and fiberglass business and two fiberglass repair shops. The situation comes down to this:

- The gaps around the body panels (whole car) is much worst then expected this is due to my lack of experience with automobile body work.
>Front bumper to hood.
>Around lower part of right side headlight.
>Left fender to left door
>Deck lid to around rear clip.

- The left door panel does not flow with the rocker when closed, it will need to be adjusted and the body panel will need to be grinded down to flow with the rocker.

- Deck lid as mention above has gaps and in certain parts it's un even with the rear clip meaning there are rears that are higher (elevated or warped) on the rear clip. The entire rear clip will have to be removed to fix.

- Rear tail lights to rear bumper there is a 1/4" to 1/2" gap. Don't know what going on here yet. It seems that the tail lights and bumper are on correct but i'm very concerned that the issue cound be something else.

- Upper sail panel area on the rear clip has major openings; will need to be glassed in.

- Hood to right fender has small holes (not to be confused with pin holes)

- Small cracks on the hood vent and vents need to be cut out. Thank God I got a template for the vent cut outs from Troy's car.

- Left front side burn of rocker is crooked.

- Right side door area and panels seems to be ok. Waiting on my steering wheel to be able to move my car out for review since I can't move the notchback yet.

NOTE: The only minor things are the pin holes & badly sanded areas (scratches) which that is not going to be worked on. A painter will do that. I spoke with Curly over the weekend and asked him if he had any issues with gaps and uneven body panels, He said no except for the door to fender do have a slightly bigger gap due too the verticle doors. My doors are stock. Then I mention what was going on with my car. I hate to say this but I have to agree with RTF (don't want to get into it anymore) archie, Chris and Rob do sh!ty work. As I mention to Curly If I had to do it again I would not. All I should have done is the choptop and made my car look similar with Curly's number #11, nothing else. The widebody kit is not worth it. Too much money out the door and worst then that is archie shop's BS... way too much BS.

The estimate I got to repair everything is going to take aprox 70hrs, so we are talking about several thousand dollars. The work will start this week. I'll post some pictures later of the issues and the progress durning the following weeks. Again I reopened a new PFF account to ONLY update my build thread and will see if I have any legal recourse at this point. Once again I'm convinced this was out of revenge but what goes around come around and archie you will get yours.
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I'm back with a good reason. Again I reopened a new PFF account to ONLY update my build thread and will see if I have any legal recourse at this point. Once again I'm convinced this was out of revenge but what goes around come around and archie you will get yours.


Dude, stay with one name and one account. I'm still using your first name.... Demacheo (I know, I still spell the name wrong, hehe). You're making dizzy.

 
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I'll post some pictures later of the issues and the progress durning the following weeks.



IMO, you should have waited until you have pictures. Otherwise, the thread will blow-up.

 
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I hate to say this but I have to agree with RTF (don't want to get into it anymore) archie, Chris and Rob do sh!ty work.




Kris and Rob did excellent work #020. I know cause I was officially been "pimped." I called Archie nearly every day for two years aided by countless pictures covering every detail of the car. I went over areas with Kris in detail using examples and pictures and that dude did everything to the letter.




That said, I flew out nearly 3 or 4 times to Archie (chop top reunion, Dells, the 25th... maybe more times?) to review the countless areas covered or not covered by pictures. I don't care, I still flew out in person to check my stuff. I will say this, even with phone calls and pics you still can over look items to which we did discover a few. As for #022 Troy flew out more than me (maybe 6-times). Rob and Kris can't cover areas you don't point out to them, right?

IMHO (prior to the beef between you and Archie) you should have flown out to Archie for lookie-lue.
 
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I spoke with Curly over the weekend and asked him if he had any issues with gaps and uneven body panels, He said no except for the door to fender do have a slightly bigger gap due too the verticle doors. My doors are stock.



#020 didn't magically appear as-is. That car nearly gave me headache, but in the end I got what I wanted, but I wasn't leaving until it was finished. If your spending money at a shop you need to check-in regardless of whose doing the work. Don't pick-up a car unless you first inspect it and if doesn't meet your standards..... start deducting the amount due or fly out and come back when the work is finished. In your case, You and Archie can't sit on the same horse thus you picked the car up too soon.
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A few items that need attention;



Fixed prior to me flying out.

Last item on my list: the frecking actuators. The flipper was the major deal breaker. The part was starting to piss me off for it added the cost by fixing it. Fog lamps crocked, wheel arch odd shaped, and needed re-enforcement throughout. Also, the underside were the lights are mounted needed serious support. Granted, Norm didn't use enough fiberglass in the area and that was over looked. So as you can see, I still missed some things that demonstrated itself while on the road. Contrary to what that homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with it) on the insurgent forum Archie had nothing to do with the light structure failing.

We constructively, argued and things got a bit heated at times I felt I was Ali fighting Fraser, but let me just say, he did it and it was done very well. It surprised the heck out of me when I saw it. The only way it worked was both parties using communication.


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Two weeks ago I hired someone to started fixing the gap issue and un even body panels. No updates for last week due to the cold weather in Central Florida. Yesterday the rear clip was removed to fix what wasn't done right at archies shop. Next the door panels will need to come off for repair too.

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Better unplug your garage door opener!
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