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v12 sound for my Diablo Replica by svocal
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Report this Post04-09-2008 12:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Austrian ImportSend a Private Message to Austrian ImportDirect Link to This Post
Random idea:

Would a VW W-12 engine work? Or a Vr-6 w/Borla?

BMWguru would be an expert on these. Although neither look like an easy or "cheap" option from the little I understand about this swap.

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Originally posted by Formula88:


Not to wander too far off topic, but the only reason I've ever seen reported for Corvettes not using DoD is they don't want a 4 cylinder exhaust note under cruise. The typical Corvette owner doesn't like it, so GM doesn't want to do it. It's not an issue on a car with quiet exhaust, but on the Vette, you'd be able to hear the difference.


That may be true on the LS2... but I can tell you for certain on the LS4... I can't tell a change in exhaust note from 4-8 cylinder mode in my GXP.
To be honest... that transition is so seemless... unless I am watching the instant MPG reading, I can't tell if I am running on 4 or 8!

My hat is currently off to whoever designed that... now when it breaks, I will be cussing, but for now... that is waaaay cool....

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Will, I don't have the article, nor do I have time to try to find an electronic copy online. But I did read what you said, but I also read the article.
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Originally posted by Austrian Import:

Random idea:

Would a VW W-12 engine work? Or a Vr-6 w/Borla?

BMWguru would be an expert on these. Although neither look like an easy or "cheap" option from the little I understand about this swap.


The VR6 with a Magnaflow sounds nice, deep and tinny under full throttle. The W12 is probably going to be a very very expensive swap with very little support or mods.
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Report this Post04-09-2008 06:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for craigsfiero2007Send a Private Message to craigsfiero2007Direct Link to This Post
I think the sound of a R32 sounds pretty exotic. I wouldn't mind having one of those engines in a Fiero.
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Originally posted by craigsfiero2007:

I think the sound of a R32 sounds pretty exotic. I wouldn't mind having one of those engines in a Fiero.


That might be my next swap if I can find a crashed R32 for a reasonable price. The sound is definitely exotic. Then again, a Jetta 24v VR6 with six speed and some upgraded cams can sound just the same for a lesser price.
Dave

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Report this Post04-09-2008 07:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for craigsfiero2007Send a Private Message to craigsfiero2007Direct Link to This Post
Thats would be awesome if you got ahold of a R32 engine. I have rode in a R32 and its a amazing car, I can imagine what it would be like in a Fiero. I like the 24v VR6's too, those have a nice tone to them but everyone that has them around here swears they are rare, so they jack the price up on them. My friend had a 1988 GTI with a Twin Turbo VR6 in it and that thing was nasty, crazy fast and it sounded amazing. I want a old GTI like that.
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Originally posted by Formula88:

I'm getting mighty fed up with feeling like every goddam post has to be notorized before it can be posted.


You think that you can just post anything you want to without backing it up? What do you think this is, the internet?

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You think that you can just post anything you want to without backing it up? What do you think this is, the internet?


No, I think this is Junior High School and there's a new hall monitor in town.
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Report this Post04-09-2008 12:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for revinSend a Private Message to revinDirect Link to This Post
be sure to get the fake V-12 engine cover as well

http://www.kitcarmagazine.c...0Lambo%20replica.htm
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Originally posted by revin:

be sure to get the fake V-12 engine cover as well

http://www.kitcarmagazine.c...0Lambo%20replica.htm


Thxs for the link. The fake V12 covers look great. But will they work over the V6 or V8 in the Transvere mounted position?
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Originally posted by svocal:


Thxs for the link. The fake V12 covers look great. But will they work over the V6 or V8 in the Transvere mounted position?


yes, thats the whole reason for covering the tranverse up ..it doesnt look like the Lambo engine


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Here's a lambo cover I am putting together over a 3.4L DOHC motor



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I still have some work to do and I have decided to try and carve the center cover out of foam so
I can have a mold made. I didn't use the diablo cover because of the sloping upper intake manifold.
I have the side cover basically done since these pics were taken.

Go with the 3.4L dohc if you want to get anywhere near v12 sound, chevy just ain't gonna work.


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Hey Carthan show a few pics of the DOHC to encourage svocal

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Thxs for the pic RUNDLC. looks good so far.
Dou have the 3.4DOHC in there? I can assume its mounted transverse right?
Maybe you can send me some picsof your toy. I'll send you some of mine.

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Originally posted by svocal:

Thxs for the pic RUNDLC. looks good so far.
Dou have the 3.4DOHC in there? I can assume its mounted transverse right?
Maybe you can send me some picsof your toy. I'll send you some of mine.

Stephen

I found this ..hopefully RUNDLC won't mind me sharing it with you
http://s222.photobucket.com...current=Hpim0897.flv

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Originally posted by Austrian Import:


This gives me an idea.

I wonder if they'll have to do something like that for the Tesla Roadster, or Fisker Karma, Venturi Fetish, etc. to slowly wean people off the "engine sound" they're used to growing up.

Would make a great joke gift for Tesla owners..

Although I have to say that I absolutely love the sound of a Tesla Roadster. Kind of like a supercharger whine, without the engine, or a Jet engine wine, without the excess noise..

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Note: the above cars mentioned are electric cars that do 0-60mph in 3.9 and under 5.5sec* respectively.

(* IIRC, I don't remember Fisker specs exactly.)


Heard only part of a news article this morning that said there is legislation that may require electric/hybrid vehicles to make noise. They cited that a Prius can only be heard when it's 40% closer to a pedestrian than a normal car. I'm guessing this is to address concerns about blind pedestrians not being able to tell that there is an oncomming car.

If my vehicle has to make noise, I want it to sound like the ice cream truck... really screw with the neighborhood kids.

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Here's the MTV Pimp My Ride episode where they put the Vroom box in, make sure you let the next episode run too.
http://www.mtv.com/overdriv...d=1559316&vid=149694
You can make you car sound like a moped too.

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Originally posted by avengador1:

MTV Pimp My Ride


God I hate that show...
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I always get a laugh out of it. They are way too over the top for anything mainstream.
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Eric that's fine I got an email from him tonight and didn't know which forum he was from. I'm on wayyy to many.

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Report this Post04-10-2008 10:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Most of the Euro exotics are small displacement. A lot of tiny cylinders makes a very distictive whine I dont think you will ever get from a V8. A 6 cylinder engine can sound more like them. My V6 Ferrari kit sounded very much like a real 308 when it was wound up. My V8 car just had too much deep throated rumble. You might play with some kind of fan or turbine blade inserted in the exhaust pipes but i dont know. Good luck
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