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Chin Spoilers? Anybody with 1. by goatnipples2002
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Report this Post07-27-2005 02:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for goatnipples2002Click Here to visit goatnipples2002's HomePageSend a Private Message to goatnipples2002Direct Link to This Post
I want to get a chin spoiler, but I want some info first. How low is it?. Anybody have one and there car lowered, is it a problem? Which style/company do you have? Does it help? Was it completely bolt on our did it take modifying? Any impressions and insights are welcome. pictures would be helpful.

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Report this Post07-27-2005 06:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bonzoSend a Private Message to bonzoDirect Link to This Post
I'm not sure what nose you have but here's one from the Fierowarehouse for a Bumperpad. It is a bolt on but I modified it by glassing it in smooth.

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yeah it'd scrape sometimes and cracked a few times untill i repaired it once using kevlar instead of glass, and used a flexible body putty instead of epoxy.. after that it flexed enough to not get damaged.

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Report this Post07-27-2005 11:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for goatnipples2002Click Here to visit goatnipples2002's HomePageSend a Private Message to goatnipples2002Direct Link to This Post
I have the aeronose sorry about that. Did it help with downforce?
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Originally posted by goatnipples2002:

I have the aeronose sorry about that. Did it help with downforce?

when combined with a hood vent yell yeah - car became more stable and noticably more firm at speeds over 75 ---

edit to add that it reduced the top speed but made it feel 100 times better when at top speed

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I have one on my 86 GT. Took it off a 92 Taurus. Not as big as those pictured but I feel some difference. A little more stable at highway speeds. And I haven't any problems with ground clearance.
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Report this Post07-27-2005 04:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 865spdClick Here to visit 865spd's HomePageSend a Private Message to 865spdDirect Link to This Post
i'd also like to know because i to want to get one and also lower my car. i would guess it would rub if you do that. Is this true?
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Report this Post07-27-2005 05:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for goatnipples2002Click Here to visit goatnipples2002's HomePageSend a Private Message to goatnipples2002Direct Link to This Post
I already have a hood scoop that helps alot. So sholud I get the spoiler or not? why? from who?
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Report this Post07-28-2005 04:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroeddieSend a Private Message to FieroeddieDirect Link to This Post

The spoiler has been wrecked twice. Once from a racoon and the second from a curb too high. The car is lowered approximetely two inches. If you get one, be prepared to know the streets in which you will be traveling. Ed

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Report this Post07-28-2005 08:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
http://fiero.cc/fiero-tdc/members/mws/FieroPix/

That's about the best looking chin spoiler/nose I've seen. FieroX has a similar setup on his car.

The "Kid Danger" air dam is a close 2nd:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20010924-1-006328.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20010219-1-003276.html


The new search engine kicks butt. I NEVER would have been able to find those topics so quickly and easily with the old search engine.

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Report this Post07-28-2005 09:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KohburnSend a Private Message to KohburnDirect Link to This Post
i also like the fiero warehouses chin spoiler

only problem is its cost.. 285$

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I'm getting ready to remove mine, it friggin get's scraped up everywhere I go

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Originally posted by shredd:

I'm getting ready to remove mine, it friggin get's scraped up everywhere I go

well it is removeable - you can leave it off for daily driving and put it on for shows - or you can give it to me so i can make a version thats not quite as low to the ground

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this ones on a stock height fiero. friend of mines

and this is mine, but you won't be able to buy this anywhere

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Originally posted by Kohburn:

i also like the fiero warehouses chin spoiler

only problem is its cost.. 285$

i have this one and the first one will showed cut open and molded to the facia almost the same way. i think the fiero warehouse one looks better in a sophisticated way i guess, and the one with the big opening is more agreesive looking. can't say if i notice a difference bettween the two as far as how they effect stability though.

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micheal smith's nose is by far the best I have seen to date. It looks stock and the ride height looks awesome, BUT he never said if it was actually functional. I like the closed mouth spoilers like the fiero warehouse sells but I don't like fiberglass.

I wish somebody would make a closed mouth urethane spoiler.

Anybody have comments as far as high speed stability?

What about the upside down method? Anybody have experience with that?

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Do a search for Skitime. He is known for that modification.
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Report this Post07-28-2005 09:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
I recently installed one of the "upside-down" air dams on my car. I plan on replacing it sometime soon. I just don't like the way it looks.

I'm actually thinking of molding an "extension" into my aero nose, rather than tacking something on.

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Report this Post07-28-2005 09:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for goatnipples2002Click Here to visit goatnipples2002's HomePageSend a Private Message to goatnipples2002Direct Link to This Post
I saw the skitime airdam mod awhile ago. Does the Skitime airdam actually do anything functional? I was thinking about doing it but didn't understand how to get it mounted. I like that method alot. Would i have to remove my bumper to add the upside down part?


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I have the upside down "Lawrence/Skitime" chin spoiler and even though it's not painted yet, I prefer it over any fiberglass spoiler. It would have been cracked about ten times by now if it wasn't flexible.

Edit: the front bumper does not have to be removed to mount the upside down part. Just use screws, bolts, rivets or whatever to hold it up. You can reach up from underneath to access the interior part of the front fascia. Then trim to your satisfaction.
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jscott1 i really like that how did you do that? I want to do that to mine but i don't have a GT facia to spare.

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Report this Post07-29-2005 12:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
If you post a "ripped GT fascia wanted" ad in the mall I'm sure some people have one in their garage. I have another ripped fascia but I want to hold onto it in case I decide to do another one.
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Here's my front with a molded in chin spoiler, and some other minor changes.

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Thanks scott I didn't think it was that easy. I have a spare gt bumper on my parts car. I will be doing that mod very soon. Have you noticed any difference in high speed stability with the skitime mod?
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the big stability improvement with the open mounthed chin spoiler is that it is molded all the way to the radiator - basicly all that air gets rammed through the radiator - and if you have a hood vent then it goes flowing up over the hood - drastic improvement in downforce - without a hood vent the headlight doors will sometimes pop open as a semi passes you going the other way.
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Originally posted by shredd:

I'm getting ready to remove mine, it friggin get's scraped up everywhere I go

Is it just me, or does this general type of chin spoiler not look right on a Fiero... It's like the line from "Me, Myself, and Irene"... "Look, daddy got a butt on his chin!"... The car looks way to chin heavy. It's not a front engine car, it shouldn't have the "visual mass" of a front engine car like a Camaro does.

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i actually like that one the best
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Hmm...this is called, "modify the heck out of it" chin spoiler using Fier Warehouse closed mouth spoiler.

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I have a pretty small hood scoop with a 6x6 hole for my air passage. I will be widening the hole by about 4 inches and I thought a chin spoiler would be a good addition to the downforce of the front end. So I take it that a chin spoiler would only add to looks. I will upgrading to a 16"Lx12"L scoop. The scoop I have now is 10"Lx8"L. I will do the skitime bumper because it looks good and it looks like general consensus says the chin spoiler is for looks and the hood scoop is for function.


The 10Lx8Wx1.5H


The 16Lx12.25Wx2H

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Originally posted by shredd:

I'm getting ready to remove mine, it friggin get's scraped up everywhere I go

I also think this is the best looking chin spoiler. Is there a way to increase clearance by raising the height of the front so that does not scrape

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i agree with will. its a mid engine car with the extra chin it adds a few inches to the nose and makes it look like a front engine car. i think we need a hole new front clip that makes the front end slow more and faster.
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Originally posted by GTMike:

i agree with will. its a mid engine car with the extra chin it adds a few inches to the nose and makes it look like a front engine car. i think we need a hole new front clip that makes the front end slow more and faster.

That chin spoiler also makes the Fiero look more aggressive and I'm baffled how this is even a point for discussion because the piece serves the same purpose regardless if it is on a front/mid or rear engine car. BTW Most people think the engine is upfront anyway.

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Originally posted by shredd:

I'm getting ready to remove mine, it friggin get's scraped up everywhere I go

Shredd,

who makes the side scoops on your car and where can they be bought?

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may favorite, and there are issues with having a chin spoiler like this but I think the looks out weigh problems..

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I also think this is the best looking chin spoiler. Is there a way to increase clearance by raising the height of the front so that does not scrape

I would like to second third and fourth that comment

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Originally posted by goatnipples2002:
So I take it that a chin spoiler would only add to looks.

Where on earth did you get that idea?
What's been said is that chin spoiler in addition to hood vent works best.

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Originally posted by madcurl:

Hmm...this is called, "modify the heck out of it" chin spoiler using Fier Warehouse closed mouth spoiler.

I like how you left it open in the middle.
I want to do something like that to my GT, I hate how long the nose is on the Fiero and also would like to do something about that too.

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Originally posted by Will:


Where on earth did you get that idea?
What's been said is that chin spoiler in addition to hood vent works best.

I misunderstood, my bad.

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