Anyhow, the question is, WHERE THE HECK ARE ALL THE PHOTOS RE: NORTHSTAR FIERO's ????
I haven't seen anyone post pics of how to mount this booger to the cradle.
I have an 84' X-11 (http://home.attbi.com/~thirddatadrive/MY_RIDES/84_exterior.html ) that is just itching to get a Northstar that I have the chance of aquiring.
ANY help (photos and facts, NOT opinions or gossip) would be MOST appreciated.
PS - Keep in mind, I always use Fiero mounts and brackets, as well as CV axles on all my Citation / X-11 swaps, therefore, it is indeed related to this forum.
See if you can find info on Chris Moore (PFF MEMBER) i think his handle on here is northstar87 he has build 5-6 northstar powered fiero's i think, he is a ASE master technition. he had his northstar powered fiero on ebay alittle bit ago, its a convertible/targa. There are 5-10 members here that either have a northstar fiero or are building one, Im with you, there should be alot of pictures.
BTW how much would you charge to put a 3.4L tdc or a 3800 s/c in a fiero? ive got both automatic and stick shift fiero's so that wont make any change. and cost on a 4.9L fiero. Or do you just do the swaps for yourself.
matthew
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tesmith66 Member
Posts: 7355 From: Jerseyville, IL Registered: Sep 2001
See if you can find info on Chris Moore (PFF MEMBER) i think his handle on here is northstar87 he has build 5-6 northstar powered fiero's i think, he is a ASE master technition. he had his northstar powered fiero on ebay alittle bit ago, its a convertible/targa. There are 5-10 members here that either have a northstar fiero or are building one, Im with you, there should be alot of pictures.
BTW how much would you charge to put a 3.4L tdc or a 3800 s/c in a fiero? ive got both automatic and stick shift fiero's so that wont make any change. and cost on a 4.9L fiero. Or do you just do the swaps for yourself.
matthew
Email me at tdaniely@yahoo.com and we can discuss details. I've done a few swaps for friends.
I have some photos, but they're in a computer 900 miles away right now.
Have you read my description of how I mounted my engine? What else would you like to know?
At the time I installed my engine I had very limited time and didn't have ready access to a digital camera. Getting the engine in and running took priority over documenting the swap. I'd change half a dozen things about it anyway if I had it to do over again. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20020825-2-017228.html
To do this again, I'd use an entirely stock Caddy forward engine mount bracket and just angle the new Xmember slightly aft to bolt the mount directly to it. Be sure to weld the new X-member in before you cut the old one out.
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Will Member
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I have some photos, but they're in a computer 900 miles away right now.
Have you read my description of how I mounted my engine? What else would you like to know?
At the time I installed my engine I had very limited time and didn't have ready access to a digital camera. Getting the engine in and running took priority over documenting the swap. I'd change half a dozen things about it anyway if I had it to do over again. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20020825-2-017228.html
To do this again, I'd use an entirely stock Caddy forward engine mount bracket and just angle the new Xmember slightly aft to bolt the mount directly to it. Be sure to weld the new X-member in before you cut the old one out.
Thanks for that other thread. That's pretty much what I wanted to know. The pics would still be nice when you get the chance to obtain them.
Of course some people may find this as a crude way to compare, but who cares.
I've taken a photo of BOTH the Northstar and the 4.9L PFI (which I've already swapped before) and resized them according to the fact that they BOTH use the same crank pulley.
This is just for the record. I am making notes trying to see if I will run into fit problems with the Northstar in the Citation's engine bay.
The Northstar is the TOP photo. The 4.9L PFI is the lower photo. I believe the Northstar's alternator position could be a hang up. The X-11 that this swap will take place on is a NON A/C car from the factory, therefore, I can relocated the radiator to where the condenser is NORMALLY located. (of course you lucky Fiero guys don't have to worry about that, do you ?)
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Will Member
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Did you take that picture of the Northstar? If you did, try taking it again with the camera further back and with more zoom. There's a noticeable amount of fish-eye in that picture. You'd probably get betting results with a "flatter" picture.
Did you take that picture of the Northstar? If you did, try taking it again with the camera further back and with more zoom. There's a noticeable amount of fish-eye in that picture. You'd probably get betting results with a "flatter" picture.
The Northstar photo was NOT taken with my Olympus camera, however, the 4.9L PFI Photo was.
The Olympus has always given me good quality pics.
Don't worry, I will post a ton of pics over the next couple months. Anyone want pictures of the N* goin together, right now I am installing pistons and rods in. I have pics of the bare block and all the parts that go to it.
------------------ 86 FIERO GT, puttin a N* and tons of other goodies. STAY TUNED
I didn't do my swap , but here is a couple of pictures of the install.I do know the front cradle crossmember has been re-fabricated to fit the N* mounts, but no pics of that.
I didn't do my swap , but here is a couple of pictures of the install.I do know the front cradle crossmember has been re-fabricated to fit the N* mounts, but no pics of that.
You are in ATHENS ??? DUDE...I'm in Atlanta (Stone Mountain to be exact)
You are less than 50 ish miles from me.
EMAIL ME at tdaniely@yahoo.com ASAP !!!
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dratts Member
Posts: 8373 From: Coeur d' alene Idaho USA Registered: Apr 2001
I didn't do my swap , but here is a couple of pictures of the install.I do know the front cradle crossmember has been re-fabricated to fit the N* mounts, but no pics of that.
Automatic?
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Will Member
Posts: 14300 From: Where you least expect me Registered: Jun 2000
I believe the Northstar's alternator position could be a hang up. The X-11 that this swap will take place on is a NON A/C car from the factory, therefore, I can relocated the radiator to where the condenser is NORMALLY located. (of course you lucky Fiero guys don't have to worry about that, do you ?)
I was looking back through and noticed I never commented on the alternator. With the engine in the stock location, the alternator has ~1/2" between it and the firewall. Ripping the insulation stuff off the firewall is a must.
I was looking back through and noticed I never commented on the alternator. With the engine in the stock location, the alternator has ~1/2" between it and the firewall. Ripping the insulation stuff off the firewall is a must.
Thanks for the extra tidbit of information. If you have any new photos coming up, I'd be interested in seeing them. The time is drawing near for my swap . . .
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Posts: 2528 From: Lehigh Valley, PA Registered: Jul 2000
These were pics taken after we completed Keith Huff's Northstar, although the sparkplug wires and such are a little crude, this was done simply to drive the car onto the trailer for it's trip down to the paint shop.....
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West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
It looks like you guys mounted the tensioner to a plate there. I have a similar setup on my car. Have you guys had any problems with the belt slipping at high RPM due to the small amount of crank pulley wrap?
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Posts: 1320 From: Santa Rosa, North CA. Registered: Mar 2003
