Global climate change fires? (Page 4/4)
maryjane SEP 16, 01:42 PM
https://www.sacbee.com/news...rticle230481684.html
More information for consumption at link above, but the following line does help explain the entrenched problems with California/Oregon/Washington state wildfire risk mitigation.


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In California, the debate over prescribed burns is complicated by a deadly history with wildfires that have grown quickly out of control, the state’s stringent environmental regulations, fear of liability lawsuits and infringement on property rights, and the huge swaths of federal forestland with their own management rules and oversight.



People keep putting lots of emphasis on wind and drought, but the big driver of problems with prescribed burns is humidity.
I've talked to lots of Forest Service people over the years and did consult with them before burning big brushpiles on my own property and they all say the same thing. Pay far more attention to how low the humidity is before lighting the match. Forest Service has done lots of prescribed burns during drought and even high winds, but the humidity was always high.

Watch a wood fire at night, especially one that has limbs with leaves still on them and if the humidity is low, it's downright scary just how many glowing embers go up (and equally scary how high they go) but on a night with the same wind condition but higher humidity, those glowing embers extinquish themselves very close to the ground just from the moisture laden air.
I'm not a novice at doing this in dry times and in close proximity to native forests.

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How many did I burn? More than what is pictured here, all piled up and waiting for the right humidity conditions.


(the black square is where my home and yard are now..the green lineon the extreme right of the picture is Sam Houston national Forest..85' from my front door and it marks my West property line.)



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Willie.....SHould we eliminate all plant life? CA has millions of square mile of forest- Why don't you come here and start cleaning the forest- after you have done 1000 square miles I will start helping you.


You're in my wheelhouse now. Pay me and I'll hop on the plane but be careful what you ask/wish for. I tend not to discriminate from one tree to the next.



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Question; Why have we NEVER had so many and such bad fires in the history of the west?


There is more than a little historical evidence to prove that the word "never' is non-applicable.

Just because it has not happened in recent memory or within a person's lifetime is no indication at all that it is unprecedented.

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cvxjet SEP 16, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Lambo nut:


Kind of figured. Now I can only guess you are in about 4th or 5th grade too?

Have fun with your hissy fit. It's the type of drama I enjoy here.



Do you send your daughter to Trump's harem? Do you send your son to Putin's chateau? (Anything for your Hero-master)

And Willie- I am older than you...And smarter since I am not A trump-chump who enjoys having soap squirted into the ears...

Wasn't there a White supremacist/Trumper who went around smashing winds and setting fires with a mask on trying to make it look like BLM rioters? You guys are trying to make everything worse- YOU start fires and then claim it was BLM...

I watch most of the idiot liberals around San Leandro and they are trying to help their neighbors- But most of the new "Conservatives" are into screwing other people over...No consideration, no honor, no honesty anymore. They are now the scum of the earth!

williegoat SEP 16, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

I Enjoy wearing them and yet I don't judge gay boys like you...Go play with your boyfriend who you hero-whoreship......



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Originally posted by cvxjet:

Do you send your daughter to Trump's harem? Do you send your son to Putin's chateau? (Anything for your Hero-master)

And Willie- I am older than you...And smarter since I am not A trump-chump who enjoys having soap squirted into the ears...

Wasn't there a White supremacist/Trumper who went around smashing winds and setting fires with a mask on trying to make it look like BLM rioters? You guys are trying to make everything worse- YOU start fires and then claim it was BLM...

I watch most of the idiot liberals around San Leandro and they are trying to help their neighbors- But most of the new "Conservatives" are into screwing other people over...No consideration, no honor, no honesty anymore. They are now the scum of the earth!


I am at a loss for words.
Cliff Pennock SEP 16, 02:52 PM
Sorry I missed this one. I do my best reading every single freakin' post in TO/T (as if I have nothing better to do) but I sometimes lose track of what I've read and what I haven't. There are at least three people here I would like to put on probation because of uncalled for remarks and direct attacks. And I still might. But for now I'll just put this thread in the Trash Can. That doesn't mean I'm letting this one slip by. And just because this thread is now in the Trash Can, that doesn't mean you now have carte blanche.
maryjane SEP 16, 07:39 PM
A lesson is learned and taught. Stay as close to ON topic as possible and as far away from personalities as possible.
Topics may shift back and forth somewhat but still avoid being personal;.

From NPR:
https://www.npr.org/2020/09...of-blame-to-go-aroun

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MisterHolaMan SEP 19, 11:34 PM
So if the fires are natural, why are cars melting their aluminum into puddles and fireproof clay roofing tiles self-igniting mere feet away from crops and trees that are completely unharmed? When I was in high school our calculus class got to meet the dude who put a huge laser in a jet plane as a missile defense project and new apaches have these DEWs too
richardbowen SEP 24, 06:17 AM
We buy all types of old cars

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rebuilt engines

tebailey SEP 25, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


No, just the un-mannaged ones in your anti forrestation maintenance State.

Why are not forrests everywhere burning down ?



Those are FEDERALLY managed forests that are burning, not state.
Jake_Dragon SEP 30, 06:13 PM
Damn its hot out. 101 degrees in Long Beach. This is insane heat for this time of the year.

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Brondo its got electrolytes
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