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Archie
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MAR 17, 12:25 PM
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Sorry, no offence but I didn't ask you. I asked him.
Archie
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Coinage
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MAR 17, 12:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock on 07-27-2000 11:14 AM :
I appreciate you posting this information, Archie. But saying something like "And all of this was designed by someone some of you claim doesn't know what he's doing." will generate some flames ofcourse.
I'm not saying this warrants some of the replies you are getting, I'm just saying you're giving them an excuse for it.
So just ignore what you think are attacks - and only reply to serious inquiries. Likewise, if people feel they are attacked by Archie, ignore that as well. You'll see that suddenly things will become a whole lot more civilized.
So let's get back to the original topic, shall we? First one to reply with a flame is a rotten egg!
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Arent you sick of hearing this yet?
Taken from here:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...19-2-004946.html#p13
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madcurl
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MAR 17, 12:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by crzyone:
It bugs me because it takes away from people who actually try to make power. It's people that make up numbers that bring attention to others. Some guy with a 250hp sbc claims over 400hp, gets proven wrong on a dyno, now all of a sudden all people with similar engines are suspect. That is wrong, and people making those claims should keep their mouth shut. Maybe if people like that recieved more peer pressure to not blow smoke out their ass we would have less BS around here. Look at the SBC list, how many of those 300+hp engines are most likely 100hp short of that? Probably quite a few. Guys like Orief and others that buy good crate engines, tune their cars and make their rated hp should be applauded. These are the types of people we need on this forum to keep it real.
I took my N* fiero to a dyno last Tuesday, I made 175whp. I found out that I have 2 dead cylinders from an electrical problem. No problem, I posted it all over RFT and nobody has said anything negative about it. People are trying to help me figure out what is wrong, and it is not a negative atmosphere. Had I claimed I had 350hp and then dyno'd 175hp I'm sure I would recieve a lot of flack. And I would expect it. I would not sit here whining about being singled out and made fun of. Anyone that claims big numbers and underperforms on a dyno should expect some flack. I would. |
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Oh really? Lets "test" your theory.
Dave public statement regarding an issue with the PROM unit:
| quote | Originally posted by DrCPU:
Here is my Dyno data from the run on Sunday morning. Please be warned - I am not a pro at reading these - so anything I say after in this one post is subject to laughter and rdicule - oh well, here goes!!
The wide band indicated I was running very rich - at about 11.5 instead of 13 for O2 - so it looks like a new prom and a retest after that is in order. The technician who did the testing said the HP would be a "substantial" amount better with a closer air/fuel mix at 13. Who knows. I guess I'll send a copy to Archie so he can fire it off to the guy who programmed the PROM I have in the car.
This was my first time seeing and hearing my car from the outside. Awesome engine sound. Even the Impala SS guys turned around to see where the noise was coming from. One small item of note is that the Impala SS guy that went after me only registered about 230hp and 246torque fro his LT1 powered car.. hmmm
I'm happy I did the Dyno as I have a better idea of how well tunned the car is. I missed out on a free dinner by 4hp. Thanks goes to Archie for paying for half the cost, as I was one of the first ten to register for this event.
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| quote | Originally posted by crzyone:
No problem, I posted it all over RFT and nobody has said anything negative about it. People are trying to help me figure out what is wrong, and it is not a negative atmosphere. Had I claimed I had 350hp and then dyno'd 175hp I'm sure I would recieve a lot of flack. And I would expect it. I would not sit here whining about being singled out and made fun of. Anyone that claims big numbers and underperforms on a dyno should expect some flack. I would. |
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Okay, here comes the Insurgents. Tell me, are "they" trying to help here or is it too bash Dave and V8Archie at the same time?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYwwnzMjRNU
Keep in mind, I'm not a engine guru, just a person who likes a tweaked out Fiero.
Okay now, please explain your "theory" as to "why" the bashing?
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madcurl
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MAR 17, 01:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by crzyone:
I took my N* fiero to a dyno last Tuesday, I made 175whp. I found out that I have 2 dead cylinders from an electrical problem. No problem, I posted it all over RFT and nobody has said anything negative about it. People are trying to help me figure out what is wrong, and it is not a negative atmosphere. |
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Time line:
Dave's annoucement: 3/26/07
Cletusthehack original posting: 1/06/2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYwwnzMjRNU
Cletusthehack comments 1-month ago.
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"This car is a rear engine but it uses a fwd tranny. MEaning its basically a fwd layout, but in the rear. A 330 hp engine mated to a fwd tranny is going to lose 10-15% through the drivetrain. Meaning at 15% it would lose about 45 hp. So with a good tune it should put down about 280-290 hp. SO where did the other 40-50 hp go? It dissapeared using Cletus' miracle high hp tuning techniques. He is a hack and the videos prove it."
(end of qoute).
I'm sure Cletusthehack dude had enough time to review Dave's reasons for the loss of power, right?
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Unsafe At Any Speed
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MAR 17, 02:08 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 86GT3.4DOHC:
Mid 13's is mediocraty? Thats no rocket, but what 6 second nitro dragster are you driving?
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My stock 3800 lbs Cadillac does 13s.
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Formula88
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MAR 17, 03:50 PM
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As for what is "fast" and what isn't, personally I don't care if my Fiero is ever faster than 12.0 in the quarter. It's not a drag car, but even if I want to drag race it, if you go faster than a 12.00, you need more safety equipment, like a roll cage. I don't want to add a cage, and I'm not going to ignore the safety rules. Others may do so at their own risk - that is their choice.
So for me, 12.00 is as fast as I'd want for a "street car."
If I were building a drag-only car, or even a "street legal" drag car, that would be different, but the car's primary purpose would be drag racing, not street driving.
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Saxman
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MAR 17, 05:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by whodeanie:
Damn are we still harping on this s**t all weekend ? |
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whodeanie - please check your PMs
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DrCPU
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MAR 17, 05:41 PM
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Curly - thanks for putting that post up. Shawn never showed me the vidoe - it's the first time i've seen it. He's a year late.
Your post does clearly layout what I put in my build thread and the fact that my set-up has power loss elsewhere in the set-up. The tuning is one part - the cast headers another and the exhaust maybe a third. As the video states. I love the car and the reliability I have with it. It's certainly a million times better than anything Shauwn will ever own. Would I like less loss - sure - will I pay more to get 50hp. Not likely.
I chased the holy grial of HP with my Harley - and ended up cutting an engine's life in half and spent a ton of dough just to that one more HP.
It's also too bad that Shawn has such a hard time seeing that I enjoy my car regardless of it's output. Karma has a way of flatenening out those like Shawn.
Dave
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bmwguru
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MAR 17, 06:01 PM
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That's ok, I recently found out that my V8 Fiero only dyno's 200whp. I don't even know where to start looking for the power loss, being that the car HAS NEVER BEEN ON A DYNO, NOR BEEN ON THE ROAD YET!!!!.
That's alright, I just got the insurance coverage finalized today and I'll be taking it to the dyno and track once the engine is broken in. Then and only then I'll post the numbers....good or bad.
Dave
ps...otherwise, I'm keeping out of this thread
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1987 GT (my toy-see above), 1987 GT (wife's toy), 1986 SE soon to be VR6, certified master technician/shop owner
www.njautobahn.com
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Jake_Dragon
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MAR 17, 06:40 PM
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I just did a butt dyno on in my wifes Saturn and it has like a bazillion HP, I passed 3 Lamborghini's and 2 F16s on the way back from the store. They didn't know what hit them.
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