Laws vs feels, facts vs rhetoric, real vs boogeyman (Page 3/5)
rinselberg JUL 19, 03:10 PM


"There’s a Word for What Trumpism Is Becoming"

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The relentless messaging by Trump and his supporters has inflicted a measurable wound on American democracy.


David Frum for The Atlantic; July 13, 2021.
https://www.theatlantic.com...ism-becoming/619418/

David Frum is a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of "Trumpocalypse: Restoring American Democracy (2020)." In 2001 and 2002, he was a speechwriter for President George W. Bush.

This how he closes:

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We’re past the point of pretending it was antifa that did January 6, past the point of pretending that Trump didn’t want what he fomented and what he got. In his interview on July 11—as in the ever more explicit talk of his followers—the new line about the attack on the Capitol is guilty but justified. The election of 2020 was a fraud, and so those who lost it are entitled to overturn it.

I do not consider myself guilty. I admit all the factual aspects of the charge. But I cannot plead that I am guilty of high treason; for there can be no high treason against that treason committed in 1918.

Maybe you recognize those words. They come from Adolf Hitler’s plea of self-defense at his trial for his 1923 Munich putsch. He argued: You are not entitled to the power you hold, so I committed no crime when I tried to grab it back. You blame me for what I did; I blame you for who you are.

Trump’s no Hitler, obviously. But they share some ways of thinking. The past never repeats itself. But it offers warnings. It’s time to start using the F-word [fascism] again, not to defame—but to diagnose.

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2.5 JUL 19, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

That should be remarked, disparagingly, as forum member randye lamely resorting to the "Royal We."

he is a very boastful person
He's a person who ..
He imagines..
Only himself..
He starts his message..
he's trying to make something out of nothing

these snippets that were taken by forum member randye originally reside, is not a particularly long or verbose message.

He can't stop..
his first message..
he go on after that..
he has created in...
he wants me to...
He's constantly trying ...
He is so utterly tiresome..


Certainly, forum member randye didn't go "private" with his first message on this thread. Which is just as well, because if I ever see a PM from randye in my PMs inbox, I will open it, taking care not to read any of it--other than the subject line, which would be unavoidable--and use the forum functionality that would block any second PM from randye from getting to my PMs inbox.

His last stupid message.

his last stupid message,

Any further questions?




Questions no, suggestion. Take the BS to PMs please.
You seem to not only be missing the point of the post, (fascism isnt what they think), but also keep calling out a certain forum member.
randye JUL 19, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:


Questions no, suggestion. Take the BS to PMs please.
You seem to not only be missing the point of the post, (fascism isnt what they think), but also keep calling out a certain forum member.



He has provided a, real-time, perfect demonstration of almost precisely what you titled this thread about.

OPINIONS replace facts in the LEFTIST mind.

He's trying to tell us all, via his "rhetoric", that he imagines a "boogeyman" and how he "feels" about it ..... LOL


In a weird, tangential, way THIS THREAD IS ABOUT HIM.... but obviously not in the way he imagines.

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rinselberg JUL 19, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:
Questions no, suggestion. Take the BS to PMs please. You seem to not only be missing the point of the post, (fascism isnt what they think), but also keep calling out a certain forum member.


It's not hard to find people on YouTube that need to "Fall Back." If you only look for such people in a way that you find them on the "Left"--as that term is used by "2.5", or by "randye"--then that's where you will find them: among the "Left."

There's no shortage of stupidity to be found on YouTube (and elsewhere) among the "not Left."

I hope that "2.5" has read all of my messages on this thread, and all and not just part of each of my messages on this thread.

I have House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy as guest conductor of the Robert Shaw Chorale to take us into the next hour (and also prevent the message that immediately precedes this message from becoming visible to me in my browser window when I use the Submit Reply function to post this message.)



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rinselberg JUL 20, 09:14 PM
Trump's forthcoming book about his unfair treatment by the mainstream liberal media . . .
Click to show

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Hudini JUL 20, 09:24 PM
randye JUL 20, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Trump's forthcoming book about his unfair treatment by the mainstream liberal media . . .
Click to show
rinselberg JUL 21, 08:46 AM


John Bolton blasts Trump: "Being a fascist requires [at least] 10 seconds of thought."

This queues up the moment when Bolton delivers his "10 seconds" gibe, aimed squarely at the former President.
https://youtu.be/g-LN2Z2GtgM?t=279

Sarcasm from John Bolton, who was one of Trump's national security advisers.


"Former national security adviser John Bolton questions whether former President Donald Trump was capable of orchestrating a violent coup."

Aired on CNN; July 16, 2021.


John Bolton, certainly no favorite of progressives or liberals.

Key takeaway: The dummies that were calling Trump a "fascist" in the YouTube video that was posted by "2.5" at the start of this thread were giving Trump way too much credit.

So says John Bolton.

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Hudini JUL 21, 07:08 PM
randye JUL 21, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:


So says John Bolton.




Pennocks Purveyor Of Perjury proffers CNN and book salesman of political prevarication, John Bolton.

It's the TRIFECTA OF FICTION............The TRIUMVIRATE OF TRASH

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