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2.5
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JUL 14, 01:56 PM
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What is a fascist? What are fascist actions?
Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of Trump, I do however enjoy facts, truth and clarity.
If you havent blocked politics yet. I'm glad.
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JUL 14, 02:38 PM
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JUL 14, 02:47 PM
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rinselberg
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JUL 14, 03:44 PM
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I see "2.5" being very theoretical on this forum.
That's antithetical to who I am.
I am drawn to the idea of Existentialism. That may not line up so well with the "real" rinselberg, but I think it's fair to say that Existentialism is the ethos of the "rinselberg" that appears here, on this forum, via the medium of texts and images.
| quote | | "Insofar as one can define existentialism, it is a movement from the abstract and the general to the particular and the concrete ..." |
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That was me, quoting Brent Dean Robbins about Existentialism on the OptiBoard forum. There's just a little more about Existentialism, as described by Brent Dean Robbins, that I put up there. A "teaspoonful's" worth of Existentialist theory.
https://www.optiboard.com/f...iewfull=1#post131691
I don't need to settle on whether Donald Trump is (or was, or yet would be) a fascist to know that he's anything but my "cup of tea."
Taking up the idea of Trump as if he were an inkblot in a Rorschach-style exercise, my first thought is that he is a kitschy caricature of the idea of a super-successful businessman or entrepreneur. I've thought of him as a real life example of the bromide that "The easiest way to make a small fortune is to start with a large fortune." Considering his inheritance from his father, Fred Trump.
In the service of objectivity, I remember someone with reasonable credentials saying (not too long ago) that he would describe Trump's success over the years in financial terms as having done slightly better than if Trump's entire inheritance had been invested in a competently managed stock market investment fund from the very start of his adulthood.
How's that for starters?[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-14-2021).]
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JUL 14, 04:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I see "2.5" being very theoretical on this forum.
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Theoritical, I would proabbly consider it the opposite.
"the·o·ret·i·cal
concerned with or involving the theory of a subject or area of study rather than its practical application.
based on or calculated through theory rather than experience or practice."
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I don't need to settle on whether Donald Trump is (or was, or yet would be) a fascist to know that he's anything but my "cup of tea."
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I dont either, but this thread isnt really much about cups of tea, or feels, or rhetoric, or boogeymen...except for focusing on identifying and distinguishing what is real and really happening, from those cups of tea, feels, rhetoric, and boogeymen. Specifically as relates to fascists and fascism and its application.
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rinselberg
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JUL 14, 05:02 PM
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I'm telling myself to read this new op-ed.
Who’s Actually Responsible for the “Culture War”?
| quote | | Is it really the liberals? |
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Tim Miller for The Bulwark; July 12, 2021.
https://thebulwark.com/whos...ing-the-culture-war/
Here's how it ends:
| quote | Social change is constant.
Civil rights, technology, advancements in science, new religions and philosophical concepts, demographic shifts—these specific changes are always new, but change itself is constant. Whether it’s people moving from farms to cities, computers remaking the workplace, or gay folks wanting the right to marry.
This country is a living organism, not a display in a museum.
And while social changes are inevitable, they’re also flammable. Throughout history demagogues of all political persuasions have used these changes to try to create resentment as a tool to amass power.
It’s the inflamers, the arsonists who are responsible for the “war” part of the culture war.
Yes, the scores of millions of people who create cultural change in the daily comings and goings of their lives should be more forbearing with everyone else. That would be awesome. #Endorse #LiveTheChange
But that’s not where the “culture war” comes from. The culture war is the creation of specific, powerful people—whose names we all know—who cynically and intentionally view conflict as a means to increase their power. |
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I think "2.5" is the kind of person that Tim Miller wants as a reader for this.
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randye
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JUL 14, 05:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I see.....
....who I am.
I am drawn ......
.....the "real" rinselberg,
.....the "rinselberg" that appears here, on this forum,
That was me, .....
How's that for starters?
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THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT YOU
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I think "2.5" is the kind of person that.....
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Shall we tell you what kind of person we think you are?[This message has been edited by randye (edited 07-14-2021).]
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JUL 14, 05:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I think "2.5" is the kind of person that Tim Miller wants as a reader for this. |
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I'm not sure who you might be talking to, not me?
But I have no doubt of this corrected by me version of something you quoted from someone else.
"The culture war is the creation of ...people ...who...intentionally view conflict as a means to increase their power."
Yes, I hope it is known to all of us that people enjoy being in power more than being trodden upon. Probably as much as they would rather have more money than less. Have a relaxing life instead of stressful, and other obvious things. I myself prefer individual freedom and responsibility and not so much group identity division and victimhood. But I do clearly see how group identity division is a tool, that is why it is taught.
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rinselberg
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JUL 14, 07:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
Shall we tell you what kind of person we think you are? |
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Is there more than one "randye"..? He keeps saying "we"when he can only intend the singular pronoun "I" and it's very strange--or would be, coming from someone other than "randye."
I make it a point not to look at any of the mindless and ill-tempered "gar-baj" that he endlessly imposes upon this forum--this is another A-1 example--not withstanding the occasional exception. That's usually when I know that he has posted, but I think he posted in a way that doesn't directly involve the "rinselberg" that lives in his head. Like if I think he posted something about race cars.
The "Last Post" field is often a clue. Other times, I just have an anticipation of it, so I can scroll down very cautiously, focusing my eyes to the left, and if I see "randye" that's my cue to scroll past it without focusing my eyes on whatever he's created.
I have a couple of other small "hacks" that I use to make do in the absence of forum functionality that would allow me to automatically keep him out of my sight.
That one caught me by surprise. Came up on my screen when I wasn't ready to use my Pennock's Best Practices and scroll hurriedly past it with the field of vision hygiene that I have just described.
Anyone who's up to date would think he is suffering from the long term neurological damage of Covid (he said he had it) if they didn't know, as I do (and perhaps others as well) that he was already like this at least several years before Covid was a "thing."[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-14-2021).]
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randye
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JUL 14, 09:33 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
What is a fascist? What are fascist actions?
Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of Trump, I do however enjoy facts, truth and clarity.
If you havent blocked politics yet. I'm glad. |
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The title of that video could have just as easily been: "Steven Crowder interviews 2 people who haven't got a single clue what fascism is."
That's endemic of the Left.
"FASCISM" and "FASCIST" are thought and discussion stoppers that have been added to other words such as screaming "RACIST", HOMOPHOBE and a host of other words that only have power over you if you allow them to. Notably and unsurprisingly, the accusation of "racist" toward Trump also came up in that video.
The vast majority of Leftists have the ideological IQ of a tree stump and don't know a fascist from a football.
The final reaction of that poor, stupid, woman in the first part of the video reminded me of a verse in the song "Goodbye Stranger" by the group "Super Tramp":
"Now I believe in what you say
Is the undisputed truth
But I have to have things my own way
To keep me in my youth"
After she was left unable to logically and objectively argue that Trump is a fascist she finally resorted to emotion, (where all Leftist go), and stormed off after personally insulting Crowder.
No matter what the objective truth is she absolutely MUST see it her own way to keep herself in her illusion.
It is also worth noting how Crowder skillfully refused to allow her to control the narrative, or frame the question, like Lefties do when she tried to tell him that he couldn't bring up Obama in the discussion and when she insisted that Trump was "breaking the law" on immigration but was then forced to confess that she doesn't know what the law is.
It was a very clear demonstration of the kind of willful ignorance, denial and fantasy that Leftists live in.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 07-14-2021).]
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