Should a parent be forced to get a child immunized? (Page 3/7)
FriendGregory JUN 30, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by 2.5:
I tend to too by default. Though, do they put other people at risk by not getting immunizations?
Also are the reasons not to immunize legitimate?



My kid may be able to go back to school next year but due to the bone marrow transplant will not be able to have the immunizations yet. Your kid could kill my kid with a bad germ that is mostly preventable.
MidEngineManiac JUN 30, 11:04 AM
I have mixed thoughts on it....if ya google the damage done to girls by Guardasil, it will make ya think....on the other hand, vacinces DID eradicate polio...I dunno, I aint that smart....
2.5 JUN 30, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:
I don't want to live in a Nanny State where Big Brother defines how I raise my child. I don't think most other folks do either. As we let our rights be eroded a little at a time, we will eventually be without any rights. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights is all about individual freedoms and the rights of the individual. Is this for the common good, yes but, it also destroys the rights of parents to decide. Not much different than Libs wanting to take away our right to bear arms, it's for the common good of the nation.



I agree about rights but my point about legitimate reasons was, what legitimate reason would a parent choose not to immunize against harmful diseases for an otherwise healthy child. (Rare cases of immune deficiency and recent surgery aside.) Fear it causes autism, fear of other secret things added to the immunization? It was mentioned also that there are choices, home school for example.

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blackrams JUN 30, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by 2.5:
I agree about rights but my point about legitimate reasons was, what legitimate reason would a parent choose not to immunize against harmful diseases for an otherwise healthy child. (Rare cases of immune deficiency and recent surgery aside.) Fear it causes autism, fear of other secret things added to the immunization? It was mentioned also that there are choices, home school for example.




Sorry, I can't answer that question. My wife and I decided to have our children immunized, that reduced their risk to the afore mentioned diseases. But, I do still support a parent's right to chose. I also believe that those same parents are responsible for the consequences of the decisions they make. Should the child catch one of the diseases and die, the responsibility lays in their laps but, that's still their right to decide.

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Ron

Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?

My Uncle Frank was a staunch Conservative and voted straight Republican until the day he died in Chicago. Since then he has voted Democrat. Shrug

MidEngineManiac JUN 30, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by FriendGregory:


My kid may be able to go back to school next year but due to the bone marrow transplant will not be able to have the immunizations yet. Your kid could kill my kid with a bad germ that is mostly preventable.



Greg, yer kid could kill my kid with a skateboard accident....maybe we shouhld just stop having kids and skateboards and vacinices and risk altogether, be done with with the human species and their fears of what *could* happen...

guess what, it aint gonna happen......we are just temporary residents on this planet, and if ya try to erridicate nature then nature WILL bite back. NO 2 ways about it...YES medical science has come a long way in the past 50 years, but its not the end-all...I think the Natives and the naturiopaths had it right....did ya know MJ kills cancer ? coloidial silver kills viruses...

This planet gave us all we need to survive, its just a matter of knowig how to use it, and figting laws...

While we are at it. something as simple as asperin...ASA....its just willow bark tea in tablet form.
yellowstone JUN 30, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by fierofool:

Like Steve, I grew up in a time of measles, mumps, whooping cough, polio, chicken pox, meningitis, smallpox and diphtheria.



Thank you for this. People tend to forget selectively about the "good old times"...
Doug85GT JUN 30, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by fierofool:

Doug, I'm not arguing your point of view, but should that also require the need for the child to be totally isolated in the home for fear of contracting or spreading a disease? I do see the necessity that some not be vaccinated due to allergic reactions. My wife's highly compromised immune system prevents her from getting pneumonia or shingles vaccinations.




That is a separate issue but a very valid one. The children that cannot get vaccinated due to medical reasons are allowed to attend school. Because of their special need, it puts an additional burden on the rest of the children, in this case everyone else must be vaccinated. This same situation exists with children with peanut allergies; the other children are not allowed peanut because of their allergy.

I guess it becomes a bigger policy question. How much of a burden on the majority of the children are we willing to accept for a few with special needs? So far the schools are siding with the kids with special needs.
kwagner JUN 30, 11:40 AM
Ignoring the pros and cons of immunizations, I'm surprised I haven't seen the "my body, my decision" argument used (or at least in that phrase).
blackrams JUN 30, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by kwagner:

Ignoring the pros and cons of immunizations, I'm surprised I haven't seen the "my body, my decision" argument used (or at least in that phrase).



Excellent Point.

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Ron

Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?

My Uncle Frank was a staunch Conservative and voted straight Republican until the day he died in Chicago. Since then he has voted Democrat. Shrug

fierofool JUN 30, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by kwagner:

Ignoring the pros and cons of immunizations, I'm surprised I haven't seen the "my body, my decision" argument used (or at least in that phrase).



I alluded to that in my above post "In today's ME, ME world....".