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| Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 93/146) |
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maryjane
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MAR 24, 12:10 AM
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WARNING..Politics follows:
It sounds like Trump may be beginning to backtrack and move away from lockdowns.
Saw where he said "cure can't be much worse than the virus" which many believe indicates he doesn't think the lives risked or potential death toll justifies the economic toll.
Also saw where Texas Lt Governor said:
| quote | "Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, chiming in to support President Donald Trump's new focus on the economy over fierce warnings from public health officials, suggested on Fox News on Monday night that he would rather die from the rapid spread of the novel coronavirus than see instability in the American economic system.
"No one reached out to me and said, 'As a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?' And if that's the exchange, I'm all in," he said. "And that doesn't make me noble or brave or anything like that.
"I just think there are lots of grandparents out there in this country like me ... that what we all care about and what we all love more than anything are those children," he added. "And I want to, you know, live smart and see through this, but I don't want to see the whole country to be sacrificed, and that's what I see."" |
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No, it doesn't make Dan Patrick noble or brave, it makes him stupid...and I voted for him.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 03-24-2020).]
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Patrick
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MAR 24, 12:25 AM
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Pressure from corporate tycoons?
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maryjane
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MAR 24, 12:55 AM
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I suspect more a case of small business and voters that are currently not working. Don't see it here at PFF but over on the Ag and cattle boards I'm on where the avg age of membership is a lot closer to mine, I see a lot of sentiment supporting just letting the chips fall and getting back to 'business as usual'. Many of the older folks are worried their portfolios will be down so much that they won't be able to leave their kids/grandkids much when grandpa dies, which is still placing a price tag/monetary value on other people's lives. I'm pretty disgusted with it. [This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 03-24-2020).]
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Patrick
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MAR 24, 01:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Many of the older folks are worried their portfolios will be down so much that they won't be able to leave their kids/grandkids much when grandpa dies...
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Assuming the kids/grandkids themselves don't get knocked off by this virus if it gets a death grip on the country... due to relaxation of the lockdowns. Damn, some people are shortsighted.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 03-24-2020).]
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maryjane
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MAR 24, 01:22 AM
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Well, we don't actually have mandatory 'lockdowns' here. There's just nothing open except grocers, medical facilities and a few other businesses..any business that doesn't require or allow more than 10 people gathered in close proximity is still open. Auto repair, tire centers, convenience stores, home building supply, drive thru burger/chicken places etc are all still open here and across most of Texas.
The refineries are still running but a lot of companies that have assembly lines are shut down.
I see more office type places closed than anything else.
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Patrick
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MAR 24, 01:48 AM
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Up to this point, the provinces in Canada have independently been asserting pressure on their citizens to comply with COVID-19 measures, but today the PM had some stern words for all Canadians
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rinselberg
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MAR 24, 01:53 AM
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Thinking about the wording of this (Pennock's) topic, which has it as the "Chinese" corona virus, and also the recent and continuing back and forth about President Trump talking about the "China virus" or the "Chinese virus," etc.
You may or--wait for it--may not care to look at this, from the Washington Post online:
"Spain hated being linked to the deadly 1918 flu pandemic. Trump’s ‘Chinese virus’ label echoes that."
Ronald G. Shafer for the Washington Post; March 23, 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost....chinese-virus-trump/
Just a couple or maybe three "pages." Things about the deadly 1918 influenza pandemic that you (likely) wouldn't already be aware of.
I saw a documentary, some years ago--and this is not in the Washington Post column--about a medical researcher who presented what he believed was very conclusive evidence that the origin of the 1918 influenza pandemic was a virus that crossed over to humans from pigs: the very large number of pigs that were corralled or concentrated close behind the front lines of the Western armies in France during World War One.
The pigs were being concentrated there to be slaughtered and fed to the soldiers. This researcher was working with the RNA of the 1918 virus, from a sample that had been taken in 1918 and preserved (cryogenically?) in a lab. I don't remember the exact details of the documentary, but that's the gist of it.
That researcher even went so far as to hypothesize that the 1918 pandemic had a Patient Zero who was an American soldier, and that the virus was passed to German soldiers and into Germany during a battle towards the end of the war, which involved American soldiers pushing forwards with an attack against German soldiers in the close confines of a significant underground tunnel of some kind.
I'd have to try to find the documentary online somewhere, to provide the details with more clarity and completeness.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-24-2020).]
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maryjane
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MAR 24, 02:22 AM
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99% of the world cares little what the Spanish or the Chinese think.
It will most likely always be called the Chinese Coronavirus just as Rubella will always be called German Measles, and MERS will always be known as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome. (except in the Middle East, it's sometimes called the Camel Flu)[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 03-24-2020).]
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rinselberg
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MAR 24, 02:48 AM
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OK.
About that documentary, the researcher had combed through archives of newspaper reports and patient and medical facility records (including U.S. Army records) from 1917 and (or) 1918, to identify what he believed was the first emergence of what would soon become the 1918 pandemic. I can't say that his conclusions are commonly accepted, but if I were grading it on "effort", it looked like a very solid grade "A" level of work.
Namaste.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-24-2020).]
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cliffw
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MAR 24, 04:21 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
For weeks, Liberty County officials crossed their fingers crossed in hopes that they would be able to avoid the tide of counties reporting coronavirus cases, but late Saturday night, the first case was reported.
The female is in the 40-50 age range and the source of the infection is being investigated. The victim is currently experiencing mild symptoms and isolating at home. |
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This has been something knawing at me with regards to shelter in place.
We just learned of a case about 30 miles away (in a different county) and another also 30 miles away in a different direction (another different county).
We have had more than half the country sheltering in place for ?three weeks? where the risk of infection was very minimal.
I would think that your local case and the two near me would trigger the self sheltering time period.
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Of course those of us which travel to more risk prone areas need to change that behavior and self shelter to that degree.[This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 03-24-2020).]
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