Cancel Culture Takes Out Dr Seuss, Sort Of (Page 8/12)
LitebulbwithaFiero MAR 11, 02:25 PM
I did not know that. Dates back to 1954

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Pepé makes a more obvious cameo in Dog Pounded (1954), where he is attracted to Sylvester after the latter tried to get around a pack of guard dogs, in his latest attempt to capture and eat Tweety, by painting a white stripe down his back (in Pepé's only appearance in a Freleng short).



Seems this is from the late 90's- early 00's



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Pepé would later appear in the episode "Is Paris Stinking" (once again voiced by Greg Burson), where he pursues Sylvester who is unintentionally dressed in drag. Pepé would appear once more in Tweety's High-Flying Adventure, falling in love with both Sylvester and Penelope (Sylvester had gotten a white stripe on his back from Penelope as they fought over Tweety), actually showing a preference for Sylvester.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pep%C3%A9_Le_Pew
rinselberg MAR 11, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

OK, now you’re dancing on quicksand. What about* the use, by leftist book burners, of such terms as terrorist and insurrection, or the wholesale production of such imaginary words as “homophobic” or “cisgender”? Much like the whining of the “woke”, it goes on forever.

And the "Roaming Noem"
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...HTML/126204.html#p12


Whataboutism

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Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.

~ Google.


Even if I were to accept without argument these "points" from williegoat, it wouldn't nullify or detract from the veritas of the assertions that I've made previously in this thread; to wit:

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[Please do not] pretend that it's only "Leftists" that want to ban books and literature (etc.) that they do not like or agree with.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...ML/126265-2.html#p48


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The profligate and overridingly indiscriminate references to "Leftists" (etc.) that have long emanated from one particular Pennock's user account undermines any logic or reality and . . . debases the currency of the English language.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/126265-2.html#p61


I assert that these two assertions are not "dancing on quicksand." They are as firmly anchored in reality as are the foundations of a modern skyscraper firmly anchored in the granite bedrock below.

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sourmash MAR 11, 03:46 PM
The Woke, antifa and BLM are the shock troops of the establishment, which is the Biden/Harris White House and Democrat Party.

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williegoat MAR 11, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I assert that these two assertions are not "dancing on quicksand." They are as firmly anchored in reality as are the foundations of a modern skyscraper firmly anchored in the granite bedrock below.



What I was saying is that if you object to the metaphorical use of the phrase "book burning" as "debasing the currency of the English language", then you should also be able to see how so many words and phrases that are misused by the left also make it difficult to communicate clearly and accurately.

A protester is not an insurrectionist and one who literally burns down a city block is not a protester.

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rinselberg MAR 11, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

What I was saying is that if you object to the metaphorical use of the phrase "book burning" as "debasing the currency of the English language", then you should also be able to see how so many words and phrases that are misused by the left also make it difficult to communicate clearly and accurately.

A protester is not an insurrectionist and one who literally burns down a city block is not a protester.


I have seen how the currency of the English language has been debased by those among the Left who are not consistently standing apart from and opposing all rioters, arsonists and murderers that decorate their crimes with BLM and Antifa-style flags and slogans. I condemn that when I see it. I certainly condemn the idea of that happening, although we might look at certain moments and statements from Kamala Harris (an obvious example) and disagree as to how to categorize her. But I certainly condemn the idea of politicians being the apologists and protectors of those kinds of criminals.

The tangibility and the accuracy of the way that I have categorized "one Pennock's user account in particular" as having debased the currency of the English language with profligate and indiscriminate harping on "Leftists" (etc.) to the exclusion of all other aspects of reality is beyond any shadow of doubt. It towers above the Pennock's Totally O/T landscape like the summit of Mount Everest towers above the line of demarcation that separates Nepal from the People's Republic of China.



When that is combined with a remarkably vulgar and unreasonably hostile attitude towards any other forum member that sees "it" differently (whatever the "it" that's in question) it creates a foul miasma indeed.

When you look at the words that emanate most frequently from that account, such as the uppercase BULLSHIT or BULLCRAP, and the directly accusatorial language of the messaging, and the fetish-like deployment of innumerable and conspicuously oversized images and memes, as if the undisguised purpose is to jam the signals [so to speak] of a contentious discussion using radio spectrum noise [Electronic Warfare terminology]--when you look at all that--what do you see?

I see the online messages board equivalent of a clogged and overflowing toilet.



But it could be even worse, as indeed it was for many years prior to August 15, 2020.

That's a good thing.

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williegoat MAR 11, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

The tangibility and the accuracy of the way that I have categorized "one Pennock's user account in particular" as having debased the currency of the English language with profligate and indiscriminate harping on "Leftists" (etc.) to the exclusion of all other aspects of reality is beyond any shadow of doubt. It towers above the Pennock's Totally O/T landscape like the summit of Mount Everest towers above the border that separates China from Nepal.



Your statement, "Calling it "book burning" is debasing the currency of the English language", implicates the language rather than the one who uses that language. Sometimes, in your quest for clarity, your language becomes awkwardly convoluted, and less than concise.

Just an observation from an old retired gearjammer.

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rinselberg MAR 11, 07:25 PM
Better for anyone to review what I've already entered into this discussion, than for me to add anything further at this point.

theBDub MAR 11, 10:23 PM
A business decides not to sell one of their products, after receiving virtually no social blowback, and the Right calls it cancel culture. Color me surprised.

It takes about two minutes to see that the publishing company did their own internal review and made this decision themselves. That’s not cancel culture; it’s capitalism.

As a very firm believer in capitalism, I couldn’t care less about this decision.
sourmash MAR 11, 10:36 PM
Because Al, Jesse or BLM have never descended upon any corporation with a false narrative to extort funds, power of publicity for their form of social justice.

Yeah, past activities have that shadow. Better to get in front of it.
rinselberg MAR 11, 11:25 PM
"Past activities" (to quote from sourmash) can cast light, as well as shadow.

In this case, the people of Dr Seuss Enterprises have "seen the light."


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Dr. Seuss Enterprises, working with a panel of experts, including educators, reviewed our catalog of titles and made the decision last year [2020] to cease publication and licensing of the following titles: And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street, If I Ran the Zoo, McElligot’s Pool, On Beyond Zebra!, Scrambled Eggs Super!, and The Cat’s Quizzer. These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong.

Dr. Seuss Enterprises; March 2, 2021.
https://www.seussville.com/...r-seuss-enterprises/


What freedom would remain for publishers, to decide whether to continue or discontinue the publication of their books, if it's all explained as being controlled (ala sourmash) by Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Black Lives Matter; etc?

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Most people categorize these Dr Seuss books as children's books. Some Republican legislators and office holders and their friends at Fox News and Newsmax and on Twitter and other social media platforms have been remonstrating as if these were adult level books that were discontinued. These Cancel Culture-obsessed wackos are all about politics as performance art instead of governing.

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