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| Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 76/146) |
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Tony Kania
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MAR 15, 07:59 PM
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MadMark
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MAR 15, 07:59 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Edited: Currently watching the Debate between Biden and Sanders. Typically, Sanders wants to write checks to everyone. 
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Heck both of them want to give everybody whatever they might desire. Not need.
I am waiting for Biden to invite Bernie outside, or maybe to a push up challenge.
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randye
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MAR 15, 08:45 PM
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From the article:
"Public health officials say it will take a year to 18 months to fully validate any potential vaccine."
One of the WORST things is to release a vaccine to the public that is ineffective, marginally effective or has attendant risk that is more serious than the disease it was intended for.
FDA required clinical trials generally take far more time than just 18 months and involve a large number of panel participants.
Many of the FDA requirements have recently been temporarily suspended by Presidential EO, but even a minimal risk screening takes a good amount of time.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 03-15-2020).]
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maryjane
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MAR 15, 11:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
PFF now has at least 9 directly, and indirectly, virus related threads here in O/T and yet we have not read even ONE post from anyone who has verifiably contracted the virus, has contracted the virus and has recovered or even anyone who has an immediate or extended family member infected or exposed.
I'm absolutely NOT alleging that the disease isn't real or that proper precaution isn't wise.
I'm just mildly amazed that with the number of PFF members and how far flung we all are that wee haven't had a single illness report, (yet?).
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well, I
don't think it's unusual at all that none of us have personally met or personally know someone with Covid-19.
perhaps we should put it in the usual perspective then...
I keep seeing this outbreak and it's death data stated in comparison to
Automobile accident deaths.
Flu deaths.
Civilian/commercial Aircraft deaths.
Gunshot deaths outside combat.
And everything else under the sun.
Your's is by far Not the 1st reference to "How many people do you know that actually have contracted this disease?"
#1. I do not this year, personally know a single person that contracted the flu. ('this year=this flu season, which began last Fall)
#2. I obviously did not know a single person that has died from flu this season, or complications while they had the flu. (nor, in 70 years have I ever known any)
#3. I have never in 70 years known anyone that eventually died in a civilian/commercial aircraft crash.
#4. In 70 years, I have only personally known one non-combat related person that was shot to death. (an uncle that was messin with another man's wife..I posted a thread in OT about it years ago)
#5. In 70 years, I have only personally been acquainted with 1 person that died as a result of an automobile accident, and I barely knew him...met him only once when he came to the house to pick my daughter up for a date.
("Personally"..I do not include on-line 'acquaintances', but even if I did include them, the numbers wouldn't change much except I do know one person from on-line whose wife died from the flu and it happened just yesterday. I never actually laid eyes on him or his now deceased wife)
161.0 Americans per 100,000 also die each year from cancer. #2 cause of death in the USA. I have personally only known a total of 4 in 70 years.
My 1st wife..lymphoma.
My father-in-law..a life time smoker.
My twin brother.
An uncle.
I grew up in the last decade of the Polio era (50s). Never met a single person with it.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 03-15-2020).]
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maryjane
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MAR 15, 11:17 PM
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I don't think it is necessary either, but I don't know how widespread the panic buying/hoarding of food really is or for how long it is going to last.
Will it happen again next weekend when most of America gets it's paycheck and does it's weekly shopping?
That question notwithstanding..as far as I have ever seen, the US (attn PFF member Fats and Williegoat) trucking industry has always been able to replenish our local food stores within a few days after a widespread natural disaster.
As far as I can determine, every US state except West Va has at least 1 case.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 03-16-2020).]
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Patrick
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MAR 16, 02:49 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I grew up in the last decade of the Polio era (50s). Never met a single person with it.
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Not one? Never? Interesting. When I was a kid, I had two neighbors with polio within a one block radius of my home. Met at least two more kids at school with it. They all had a limp, and all of them were one or two years older than me. Kids my age or younger must've arrived on the scene after the vaccine was widely available, as none of us were afflicted. (I was born in Dec '55.)[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 03-16-2020).]
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maryjane
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MAR 16, 03:26 AM
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nope. not one. I had a cousin that wore leg braces (Forest Gump type) but it was from an injury he suffered being rotated around a barber's chair and his legs hit something and about twisted both off at the hips.
I did have an uncle that had rheumatic fever when he was young..from scarlet fever. He was in his 40s already when I was a young teenager.
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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 16, 03:32 AM
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I'm on a local Facebook group, just general chat for the town, upcoming events, jobs or wanted classifieds, ECT.
Overall the concern seems to be a never-ending reset of the clock on the quarantine. Which would lead to supply shortages since everyone is more or less indefinitely restricted.
The feeling is "ok, the 2 weeks are up, no symptoms but the virus is still out there so if we go to work we are re-exposing ourselves to it.
Personally I'm thinking once the initial panic is over it's something we will just learn to live with like any other communical disease.
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Patrick
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MAR 16, 03:33 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
nope. not one.
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When you were a kid, did you always live in a rural environment? I'm just wondering if I met as many polio victims as I did simply because I lived in a more densely populated area? 
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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 16, 04:05 AM
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For the guys who get forced off work for a few weeks with no paycheck, check your local utilites. Ours just set up a relief system for those who need it.
https://www.hydroone.com/sa...ges/Relief-Fund.aspx
Chatting with some of the locals this morning there is a lot of worry they won't be able to get help for planting season due to the restrictions. I already told the guy down the road I'd drive a tractor for the spring if need be. Clutch plays hell with my knee but that's what braces and motrin are for.
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