Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 7/146)
MadMark FEB 01, 09:21 AM

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I don't take anything I find on the Internet too seriously unless it is confirmed by multiple sources and even then I am skeptical because there are so many varied interests that can skew things. 30 or 40 years ago most of us took what the main stream media said maybe not as gospel, but as reliable. But, that has changed. Now we find the old gray lady, the New York Times, to be very political. To the point of publishing anonymously sourced articles that hit their political enemies. And when the truth comes out they don't blush or even apologize. And believe me this virus is political or will be used as something of a political weapon.




Found this this morning from the BBC. "Estimates by the University of Hong Kong suggest the total number of cases could be far higher than official figures suggest. More than 75,000 people may have been infected in the city of Wuhan, which is at the epicentre of the outbreak, experts say."

So they, the BBC, is saying basically the same thing that some of the other sources I listed said. Most of these sources are getting their information for Hong Kong.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51338899
E.Furgal FEB 01, 10:18 AM
WAIT TILL THEY TELL YOU, IT CAN STAY on the products imported from china for months.
oh, ya they won't
maryjane FEB 01, 05:22 PM

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The Pentagon said the Department of Health and Human Services requested that the Defense Department provide several facilities capable of housing at least 250 people in individual rooms through February 29.
The Pentagon said the locations selected to assist, if needed, are:
the 168th Regiment, Regional Training Institute in Fort Carson, Colorado;
the Travis Air Force Base in California;
the Lackland Air Force Base in Texas;
the Marine Corps Air Station Miramar in California.

"Under the request, DOD will only provide housing support, while HHS will be responsible for all care, transportation, and security of the evacuees. DOD personnel will not be directly in contact with the evacuees and evacuees will not have access to any base location other than their assigned housing," the Pentagon said in a statement.

"In accordance with (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) guidelines, all evacuees will be monitored for a period of 14 days. Should routine monitoring of the evacuees identify ill individuals, HHS has procedures in place to transport them to a local civilian hospital," the statement continued.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/02...ronavirus/index.html
MadMark FEB 01, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by MadMark:

The news reports I have seen this morning are reporting another increase of about 2000 people sick with this virus, mostly in China. That makes it about 12,000 cases so far. Maybe this is a good thing. For the last 3 or 4 days the count has gone up by about 2000 a day. While that is significant it is not an exponential increase. Maybe the quarantine measures are working. If so that would be great.



I was just listening to the BBC and they calling 14,000 cases at the end of the day, with 304 deaths total. So maybe it is getting exponential. The next few days will give us a better perspective of whether the disease is still progressing linearly or if it is accelerating.
maryjane FEB 02, 01:35 AM
"Coronavirus: First death outside China reported in Philippines
A man has died of the coronavirus in the Philippines in the virus's first confirmed fatality outside China. The patient was a 44-year-old Chinese man from Wuhan, in Hubei province, where the virus was first detected. He appeared to have been infected before arriving in the Philippines, the World Health Organization said.


The man travelled to the Philippines from Wuhan, via Hong Kong, with a 38-year-old Chinese woman who also tested positive for the virus last week, the Philippines Department of Health said. Officials said he was admitted to a hospital in the capital, Manila, and then developed severe pneumonia. Rabindra Abeyasinghe, the WHO representative to the Philippines, urged people to remain calm: "This is the first reported death outside China. However, we need to take into mind that this is not a locally acquired case. This patient came from the epicentre of this outbreak."

44 years old isn't what I would consider "elderly and sick" like I've heard most of the fatalities have been in China...

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MidEngineManiac FEB 02, 01:46 AM
Well then

https://youtu.be/Zr3vmi_TyjU
MidEngineManiac FEB 02, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

"Coronavirus: First death outside China reported in Philippines
A man has died of the coronavirus in the Philippines in the virus's first confirmed fatality outside China. The patient was a 44-year-old Chinese man from Wuhan, in Hubei province, where the virus was first detected. He appeared to have been infected before arriving in the Philippines, the World Health Organization said.


The man travelled to the Philippines from Wuhan, via Hong Kong, with a 38-year-old Chinese woman who also tested positive for the virus last week, the Philippines Department of Health said. Officials said he was admitted to a hospital in the capital, Manila, and then developed severe pneumonia. Rabindra Abeyasinghe, the WHO representative to the Philippines, urged people to remain calm: "This is the first reported death outside China. However, we need to take into mind that this is not a locally acquired case. This patient came from the epicentre of this outbreak."

44 years old isn't what I would consider "elderly and sick" like I've heard most of the fatalities have been in China...




Elderly and sick really depends on the individual. I've seen 25 and 30 year old in worse shape than some 90 or 100s the past few years.
MadMark FEB 02, 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

"Coronavirus: First death outside China reported in Philippines
A man has died of the coronavirus in the Philippines in the virus's first confirmed fatality outside China. The patient was a 44-year-old Chinese man from Wuhan, in Hubei province, where the virus was first detected. He appeared to have been infected before arriving in the Philippines, the World Health Organization said.


The man travelled to the Philippines from Wuhan, via Hong Kong, with a 38-year-old Chinese woman who also tested positive for the virus last week, the Philippines Department of Health said. Officials said he was admitted to a hospital in the capital, Manila, and then developed severe pneumonia. Rabindra Abeyasinghe, the WHO representative to the Philippines, urged people to remain calm: "This is the first reported death outside China. However, we need to take into mind that this is not a locally acquired case. This patient came from the epicentre of this outbreak."

44 years old isn't what I would consider "elderly and sick" like I've heard most of the fatalities have been in China...




That would be something significant. If you only have a few people sick with this disease they are going to get extra ordinary care. When the numbers keep getting higher and higher the hospitals will be overwhelmed and care goes down. Maybe even triage is going to happen where those considered too sick will get a type of hospice care. You can only have so much medical staff and equipment. I would have no clue where that point would be in China. It seems they can build a hospital in a week, but there is no way to train health workers that fast.
MadMark FEB 02, 07:56 AM
Houdini, are you still there? Or have the government shut down access to the internet?
maryjane FEB 02, 11:44 AM
Maybe he was caught by a drone...