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| Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 65/146) |
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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 12, 06:27 AM
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MAR 12, 08:30 AM
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A radio station here reported that China had a case of someone reinfected, that would be after they tested negative they got it again.
Not sure how normal that is, if the news is even real, or if China can be counted on to test or report properly.
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rinselberg
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MAR 12, 08:32 AM
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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 12, 09:33 AM
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You have GOT to be the sole living thing on this continent that would have to look up the captain Tripps reference. It springs up for every single outbreak of anything for the past 30 years.
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Patrick
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MAR 12, 10:24 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
General health, age and pre-existing conditions/risk factors will play the biggest role in determining how many end up dead no matter which nation it is. Among the highest influencers for death in regards to Covid-19 is high blood pressure. About 30% of all Americans (103 million) have hypertension/high blood pressure. Add diabetes or COPD or congestive heart failure to the mix and the odds are really stacked against ya, and these factors will be much bigger than whether one has the ability to get medical care for 'free' or not. About 17% of Canadians have high blood pressure.
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If what you say is true Don (and I don't doubt it is), the US could be in trouble. I've been to a Walmart in the States... and observed the clientele. 
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olejoedad
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MAR 12, 10:43 AM
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The US? No
A certain segment of the population? Definitely
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maryjane
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MAR 12, 11:12 AM
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I took a little spray bottle of alcohol with me yesterday when I went to Walmart, and sprayed down the handle and top part of the shopping cart.
Overkill...maybe.
But I am well acquainted with some pretty nasty pathogens from my cattle experiences...usuallyy bacterial tho, and well known bacteria ..mostly e-coli.
I wear shoulder length OB gloves, full plexi face covering and surgical mask if I have to do any work around the rear end of one, especially this time of year when the grass is just beginning to green up and grow..It's mostly water and causes the cows to have runny green poop.
EColi is nasty stuff. Staph is also a constant concern in my line of endeavor, as I'm always getting minor scratches or cuts.
Many billions of Ecoli cells laying around in this picture. Since she died suddenly with no obvious cause, with a lot of post mortem bleeding from eyes, rectum and vulva when we picked her up, I was extra careful when dealing with her and buried all the loose soil and feces with her.
tis a dangerous world out there for sure...
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MadMark
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MAR 12, 11:12 AM
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The key to how bad it is going to be here in the US and in Canada is how many cases do the doctors and hospitals have to deal with at once. There is a certain percentage of people who when they catch this disease will have a serious form of it. A lot of that depends on the age of the patient. The older you are the more serious it seems to be. Add in preexisting conditions to make that risk even worse. The patients that get the serious form of the virus need medical support. A lot of that means they have pneumonia and have trouble breathing and getting enough oxygen into their blood stream to sustain them. They then need respirators and there is a finite number of them available. If the hospitals get overwhelmed with severe cases needing these respirators or ventilators then they have to make decisions as to who gets treated with what.
Right now in Italy that is where they are. I have a friend whose daughter is a doctor in Italy. They are overwhelmed with severe symptom patients. They do not have enough respirators or ventilators to go around. So they need to Triage or chose who gets the respirators. Literally they are choosing who lives and who dies. It is affecting these doctors and other health care professionals as they have to make these life and death decisions. How would you deal with having to watch someone die, who could be treated in normal circumstances, but they currently don't have enough equipment to save their lives?
We in the US are fortunate that we do not have these extreme pockets of outbreak. At least not yet. Some of it is luck. Some of it is because President Trump shut down the travel into the US from China shortly after the outbreak started. But, I doubt that we will be able to contain it forever. The best we can hope for is to have a rate of transmission slowly rise so we don't overwhelm the hospitals and doctors.
The reason I say we cannot or will not be able to contain it forever, is because of the attributes of this disease. It doesn't show up in the patients right away, yet they can still have the virus and transmit it to others for as much as 2 weeks. It seems to be extremely easy to transmit, even now we have reports that it can survive in the air for as long as 3 hours and maybe even days on surfaces like door knobs and counter tops.
Seeing the challenges we face with this it is incumbent on us as individuals to take as much in the way of precautions as possible. As extreme as it seems shutting down or delaying large gathering events is prudent. Staying away from other people is prudent. Washing your hands with soap and water is prudent. If you feel sick don't go out until you are cleared. Most of it is quite simple and easy. All of these things apply for the general public and if you are older or have other preexisting conditions take this to heart. I know I will.
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maryjane
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MAR 12, 11:20 AM
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What Mark said!
Has anyone seen anything regarding research pertaining why Covid-19 doesn't seem to affect children very much?
I find that a bit odd, all things considered.
Irony?
The Brazilian prez at one time called the coronavirus crisis "a fantasy".
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Rsvl-Rider
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MAR 12, 11:24 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
Honestly, I'm not worried about it. I know if I get infected (which I someone hope I do), I will recover just fine and then will be immune to it.
It's a respiratory virus, from my understanding. If you are old, have health issues such as diabetes and high blood pressure, and especially if you are a smoker, then this virus is bad news.
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Be careful what you wish for. It has been reported that even after recovery it is possible to catch it again.
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