Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 61/146)
MidEngineManiac MAR 10, 11:51 AM
Dont think Ill mind having Corona !

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ray b MAR 10, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


You neglected to mention,that WHO itself, early on,strongly suggested that Covid-19 (before it even had a name) would be seasonal and was likely to abate when the weather turned normal. So did the medical people in China and in our own country. I'm pretty sure it was discussed in the early pages of this thread as well.



well the cv-19 is spreading in s fla in 80+ deg temps we have had with a very few dips in the month of feb this year
4 cases around the port in ft L

so NO normal spring temps will not kill it or even limit the spread if local results are typical
and full on summer temps is an unknown at this point

did see on the net 140 deg F will kill it but you only get that on metal in the full sun
and most inside public places have a/c set below 80F so no help there !
Fats MAR 10, 12:43 PM
I've got serious questions about the information going around about this Corona thing.

And, for the record, I still see it as another version of the flu. I know it's not the flu, but the symptoms are almost identical.

According to what I'm reading, the virus transfers "only" by getting sneezed on, kissing or licking someone that has it.

Meanwhile, masks won't protect you... And washing your hands will stop the spread.

And people locked in their rooms on cruise ships keep catching it somehow...

According to the map at Johns Hopkins , Missouri had two cases yesterday. I posted a photo on Facebook noting that every major city in the country had at least a case.

Today, one case in Missouri, and according to the website, there has only been one. Not two. Also, they stopped showing the cases on a city by city basis, and are simply showing a marker in the middle of each state for some reason.

I don't think it's a fake virus, but I do think we are being manipulated quite a bit. I'm not the smartest peanut out there though and I've been wrong before.


2.5 MAR 10, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Fats:


And, for the record, I still see it as another version of the flu. I know it's not the flu, but the symptoms are almost identical.





Its more like the "common cold".
Rsvl-Rider MAR 10, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Fats:

According to what I'm reading, the virus transfers "only" by getting sneezed on, kissing or licking someone that has it.

Meanwhile, masks won't protect you... And washing your hands will stop the spread.

And people locked in their rooms on cruise ships keep catching it somehow...

Also, they stopped showing the cases on a city by city basis, and are simply showing a marker in the middle of each state for some reason.





I don't know what your sources are but I believe there are some errors there.

Virus transfers are also possible from persons coughing in proximity, which I believe has been estimated to be within 3 to 6 feet and that it might remain suspended in the air for some period of time. It can also be transferred by handling or touching items that have been contaminated in probably the same way. I have read that the virus can live on some surfaces for as many as 9 days but I have no authoritative reference for this.

Masks have 2 uses...

The first is to protect others from being infected by someone already carrying the virus. These can be the surgical mask type which is typically used in hospital settings to prevent transmission of germs from medical personnel to the patient during medical or surgical procedures. But it is not suitable to protect the wearer from being infected by airborne particles (droplets) sneezed or coughed by others since they are not designed to seal to the wearers face. It may also be possible that the mask material is not rated to, or intended to, the level necessary to be capable of filtering viruses , bacteria, etc.

The second type of mask is that which has been rated N-95 or higher by NIOSH. These, when fitted properly, are designed to permit you to breathe through the mask, not around it. For that reason they are superior to the surgical masks that you see most people wearing in news reports.

The cruise ship issue may be the result of any number of causes ( it must be like being quarantined in a petri dish). There is still interaction between guests and ship staff during meal delivery and/or preparation. Surfaces or food may be contaminated by preparers before meals are delivered and consumed. Also, less likely according to media reports, it may be that the virus might be spread through the air via the ship-wide HVAC system.

I have been monitoring the same John Hopkins site that I think you are using.

https://gisanddata.maps.arc...40299423467b48e9ecf6

I noticed today that they did indeed change the reporting method from city / county to the statewide method. I'm not happy with this change as it doesn't help me to identify nearby risks as they occur. When the first case was reported in the urban city where my daughter attends college a few weeks ago I immediately sent her N-95 masks and hand sanitizer.

When an local infected patient died in a hospital not more than 150 yards from my place of business I obtained another batch of masks for my family. Although we are not yet wearing them I felt it was prudent to offer my loved ones what protection I could. I was not able to find hand sanitizer for sale anywhere, except at profiteering prices, so I mixed up a batch at home using Isoprohyl Alcohol (minimum 70% alcohol) and Aloe Vera gel in a 2 to 1 ratio according to a recipe I found on line and distributed it in small plastic bottles from the dollar store.

Some may think this to be overly cautious, but think how would I feel If I could have taken some simple positive action, and didn't?

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Fats MAR 10, 04:43 PM
According to the CDC website, which I'm guessing is the most non-useful website I'll go to today, they don't know how it spreads.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronav...ut/transmission.html


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COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning how it spreads, the severity of illness it causes, and to what extent it may spread in the United States.



And then they go on to mention ways that it could spread, which is all a guess.
Fats MAR 10, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Rsvl-Rider:

I noticed today that they did indeed change the reporting method from city / county to the statewide method. I'm not happy with this change as it doesn't help me to identify nearby risks as they occur.



Exactly, it took away people's ability to know about risks nearby.

I wonder what they covered up when they changed it.
MidEngineManiac MAR 10, 05:01 PM
The one thing we can be sure of is that something is being hidden and covered up. Who the hell knows what.

Starting with China, every single jurisdiction getting hit is changing reporting to more general with fewer actual reliable numbers and statistics.

This is panic control if I've ever seen it.
MidEngineManiac MAR 10, 05:50 PM
https://youtu.be/9mrPHO-nkVE
MadMark MAR 10, 06:29 PM
You can go to this site and it give a more in depth assessment of where the new cases are, at least by county in the text below the graphs.

https://www.worldometers.in...ronavirus/#countries

I was scheduled to go the Annual Car Wash Show in San Antonio, TX. But, I was just told it is cancelled. Bummer.