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blackrams
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MAY 12, 06:33 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
Nonetheless most gas stations in the area ran out of fuel today, allegedly due to "panic buying".
Governor DeSantis put the emergency order in place because, along with other needed measures, it allows the state and local authorities to police and prosecute price gouging.
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Just had a mental flashback to the 70's when gas was being rationed. Gas was being restricted to only getting five gallons every other day. The last number on your license tag dictated what day you could go get it. Knew a few folks with multiple vehicle that would switch tags from vehicles just to get what they thought they needed.
Ya just have to wonder if the hybrid or electric vehicle folks didn't have something to do with this................ Nah, would never happen. 
Rams
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maryjane
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MAY 12, 09:23 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
Maybe seeing what this outage is doing will make some people realize how utterly stupid it was for our president to shut down Keystone. |
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Willie, most already know this and several won't admit it. Makes ya wonder what the hell they are thinking or, what direction they intend to take us.
I don't see this ending well.
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I am all in favor of the existing Keystone and, the now cancelled Keystone XL but I'm pretty sure very few if any people have vehicles that will burn un-refined crude oil.
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blackrams
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MAY 12, 09:45 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I am all in favor of the existing Keystone and, the now cancelled Keystone XL but I'm pretty sure very few if any people have vehicles that will burn un-refined crude oil.
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Pretty sure most of us know gas and diesel come from crude oil and that unprocessed crude oil won't run any of our vehicles. I could be wrong but doubt it.
Rams
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maryjane
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MAY 12, 09:59 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Pretty sure most of us know gas and diesel come from crude oil and that unprocessed crude oil won't run any of our vehicles. I could be wrong but doubt it.
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Good.I was beginning to wonder
So ,what does KeystoneXL have to do with today's refined fuels pipeline shutdown?
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maryjane
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MAY 12, 10:19 AM
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She fights like a girl
A girl at a N.C. gas station tried to cut in line, then runs into someone's car, spits on the driver of the car getting gas, and .... the fight is on... both participants were arrested.
(rough language warning!)
 [This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 05-12-2021).]
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blackrams
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MAY 12, 10:44 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Good.I was beginning to wonder
So ,what does KeystoneXL have to do with today's refined fuels pipeline shutdown?
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Don't think I suggested Keystone XL had anything to do with it. Not even sure why you are asking me that.
KeystoneXL's cancelation can probably be used as an excuse to raise prices a bit but, the price hike's cause by this shut down would only add to any previous price increases in my mind. So, what does the KeystoneXL cancelation have to do with today's or yesterday's events? Other than adding more or less fuel to the fire on or for American dependency on foreign oil products, I'm not sure where you're going with this.
Rams
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maryjane
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MAY 12, 10:52 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Don't think I suggested Keystone XL had anything to do with it. Not even sure why you are asking me that.
KeystoneXL's cancelation can probably be used as an excuse to raise prices a bit but, the price hike's cause by this shut down would only add to any previous price increases in my mind. So, what does the KeystoneXL cancelation have to do with today's or yesterday's events? Other than adding more or less fuel to the fire on or for American dependency on foreign oil products, I'm not sure where you're going with this.
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Which is exactly what I'm asking.
Where are you and Willie going in reference to a crude oil pipeline when there is no shortage of crude oil at the refineries?
You did respond to his post in the affirmative, did you not?
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...ML/126489-2.html#p48
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williegoat
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MAY 12, 10:57 AM
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The way I see it, Keystone XL would be an improvement to our supply chain infrastructure and as such, would reduce our vulnerability, overall.
Real infrastructure, not the leftist newspeak definition.
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blackrams
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MAY 12, 11:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Which is exactly what I'm asking.
Where are you and Willie going in reference to a crude oil pipeline when there is no shortage of crude oil at the refineries?
You did respond to his post in the affirmative, did you not?
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...ML/126489-2.html#p48
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Yes, I did respond to willie but, you're barking up the wrong tree. Tying these two events together is like oil and water, the only relationship would be in oil futures as I see it.
There may be an abundance of oil now but the cost of getting that oil to the refineries went up or, was kept higher than it needed to be with the cancelation of KeystoneXL. My understanding is the KeystoneXL would only carry crude, is that in error? Additionally, I didn't think the pipeline in question carried much crude oil. May have but, my understanding is mostly finished product. Am I wrong on that?
No issues here if I'm incorrect and you have more accurate information.
Rams
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williegoat
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MAY 12, 11:25 AM
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I would like to hear from IT people, the cyber security cognoscente on how this fell apart, what could we, should we have done differently.
I know it's not an easy answer, a constant cat and mouse game. But how do we change the game?
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