Biden to cancel Keystone XL pipeline permit (Page 6/13)
Patrick JAN 18, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Actually, I believe you interjected an opinion first...



"Interjected"? I responded on topic to a comment from Wichita about Canada. Isn't this what a forum is all about, an exchange of differing opinions? Or is all you're interested in is an echo chamber for you and your like-minded buddies?


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Originally posted by blackrams:

I thought it was ironic that one who was so opposed to DJT and his policies would not appear to care about the loss of jobs in Canada and the effect canceling the pipeline would have on Canada.

Try to get past your Trumper Hate and consider what the pipeline could have done for your own country.




Try to get past your anyone-not-Trumper Hate and understand that I can agree with perhaps one policy that DJT endorsed. Every other policy of his regarding Canada (ie tariffs on steel and aluminum) did nothing but hurt both the US and Canada.
2.5 JAN 19, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by randye:


The average price of a gallon of regular unleaded gasoline in the United States was $1.84 on Jan. 19, 2009--the day before Obama took office.

As of Monday, Feb. 11, 2013, the per-gallon price had risen to an average of $3.61--an increase of 96 percent.

Expect to see similar or even higher increases as Leftists continue to attempt to kill the US economy.

As a reminder, increased fuel prices also increase the prices of all goods and services.




All the more reason jobs that CAN be done from home, with no commute, should be.
But then I have also heard chatter about possibly taxing folks more somehow for working from home.

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Old Lar JAN 19, 02:59 PM
Gas in my area went from $1.99/ gallon $2.22/ gallon in the past month. Yesterday some stations had the price of $2.39/ gallon for regular. I call it the Biden effect. Dementia Joe wants to spend $$ for Arab oil where his family probably gets a cut of the $$ going to them.
blackrams JAN 19, 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Old Lar:

Gas in my area went from $1.99/ gallon $2.22/ gallon in the past month. Yesterday some stations had the price of $2.39/ gallon for regular. I call it the Biden effect. Dementia Joe wants to spend $$ for Arab oil where his family probably gets a cut of the $$ going to them.



Now Lar,
His son, Hunter is an energy expert. I'm sure this will all work out to someone's benefit.........

Rams

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sourmash JAN 19, 04:05 PM
We have a pipeline airplane doing a flyover very regularly in this area.
blackrams JAN 19, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

We have a pipeline airplane doing a flyover very regularly in this area.



I'm not qualified to suggest that all pipe lines are modernized to the point Don was saying, I would think it would take time, money, equipment and some folks smarter than me to get this done on older pipe lines but, I would have to defer to those that know.

What I would ask is how you know this is a pipe line aircraft?

I know several VFR pilots that follow roads, rail road tracks, major electrical lines and even pipe lines to get to or near destinations. These are pilots that never learned terrain navigation. I'm not saying you're wrong but am questioning whether or not you're sure and if so, how?

Rams
cvxjet JAN 19, 04:36 PM
Making the Keystone pipeline safe would be a bit difficult; It was supposed to be buried 4 feet underground. Possibly running it inside another outer "Safety pipe" with detectors for intrusion of leaking oil...

I like the idea of using pipelines for oil transportation, but I hate Eminent domain and just giving the OIL industry whatever it wants....

While oil profits will go up, the cost to counter flooding of coastal cities will "Break the bank".....

Still don't understand what is so evil about Solar Power......All homes should have solar panels and then be energy independent.
2.5 JAN 19, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

Making the Keystone pipeline safe would be a bit difficult; It was supposed to be buried 4 feet underground. Possibly running it inside another outer "Safety pipe" with detectors for intrusion of leaking oil...

I like the idea of using pipelines for oil transportation, but I hate Eminent domain and just giving the OIL industry whatever it wants....

While oil profits will go up, the cost to counter flooding of coastal cities will "Break the bank".....

Still don't understand what is so evil about Solar Power......All homes should have solar panels and then be energy independent.



I don't see any way how they could be energy independent with it. Its not evil, but is expensive, as with most "alternatives" they work in some places and not others. It is somewhat effective in paces where the sun doesnt stop shining (except at night), not much effective in places like Minnesota where coulds are usual, and daylight hours are short in the winter, which also happens to be when furnaces are sucking energy running 24/7 to keep buildings warm. They try wind up here too, theres quite a bit of wind, its still not real efficient. But I don't doubt they'll try and make us do it anyway.
Patrick JAN 19, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

Still don't understand what is so evil about Solar Power......All homes should have solar panels and then be energy independent.



I'm certainly not against solar power, but it's not a source of power that's without problems/challenges of it's own... from both the manufacture of the panels and with the disposal of them at their end of life.

One of many articles pertaining to this - How Green Are Those Solar Panels, Really?

A couple of excerpts...


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Fabricating the panels requires caustic chemicals such as sodium hydroxide and hydrofluoric acid, and the process uses water as well as electricity, the production of which emits greenhouse gases. It also creates waste. These problems could undercut solar's ability to fight climate change and reduce environmental toxics.

The silicon used to make the vast majority of today's photovoltaic cells is abundant, but a "silicon-based solar cell requires a lot of energy input in its manufacturing process," said Northwestern's You. The source of that energy, which is often coal, he added, determines how large the cell's carbon footprint is.



blackrams JAN 19, 05:05 PM
I looked into Solar when constructing my new home. Very expensive with a life span of less than twenty years as I remember. The south side of my home would have been loaded up with solar panels. Just wasn't feasible with the expense and ROI. This also makes the price of home ownership much more costly. I don't know about you but, my home is the biggest investment of my life. I don't need to add cost to something with such a low ROI. What about all those folks that live in large apartment buildings, are home owners expected to carry the entire cost for them to have cheap energy? There will have to be significant improvements to make those systems more efficient and last longer before they will ever be on every home. Not all of us live in the Sun Shine State so, Solar doesn't make sense in a lot of places.

Rams